Im tired...

A few good posts so far, mainly that IM can be highly volatile; I think the takeaway is to be smart with your money and live well within your means for when rainy days come.... and they will. I've seen a ton of fast money guys come and go in this industry over the last decade, completely destroyed when the taps shut off. It would be wise to have some different streams of income that don't rely purely on one traffic source or income method.

My take is the big boys across the board have declared a war on "fake", and are grabbing for control and centralization. You can see it with content, reviews, verifications, and it seems like that has blown back to payment processor & site crackdowns for fake followers, social actions, reviews, etc. That's the easiest way to kneecap the industry, restrict the flow of cash. I think your idea is good that you should branch out to a few different payment processors and even offer slightly cheaper rates for skrill, payoneer, btc, whatever, and have PP for a last resort for buyers who insist on it. Get a few accts and setup some front sites that sell web design services, SEO or whatever and run the processing links through there to try mask your site.

Things change, crackdowns occur, pivots and re-imagination is required to constantly reinvent yourself. There are a lot more new platforms and opportunities coming online everyday than are being shutdown or restricted, every year I spend a week scouting platforms and playing with new features to think about how things can be weaponized or where there are holes. I constantly have a list longer than Santa of ideas to swap in if other things break.

Take some time offline to recharge, then look yourself in the mirror and decide if you want it bad enough or pack it in and go grill hot dogs in a grungy cramped food truck to just barely pay the bills. You decide.

see if the thing makes your life experiences bad then drop it but can you live without it ? you need to answer.
If you look at what you are fundamentally doing is trying to earn a living, if you are trying too hard or you dont like the work then you should better go do something you like to do but we both know its not what it sounds like in sentence. And if you trying to be best or trying too hard to be more than somebody else then its going to go in vain coz there will always be someone better than you i think in this it might be money. Just strive to reach your full potential, this thing no one knows you can keep striving but it seems sensible as you can work on yourself but controlling outside situation is almost always not possible in this case it might be how paypal is behaving for you.

When you do things with total intense focus, something good may come out of this. Earning a living for a human being is not a issue. Just be calm and look at situation with little more clarity. Im sure you will figure the damn thing out for which you are going mad and making up conclusions about the entire thing.

Listen to sadhguru in youtube if you want little more clarity in your life processes.

Looks like you are at cross-roads. I would say take a few days off and think this clearly. A sane decision can go a long way rather than doing something out of frustration and anger. Good luck mate.

Take a break sir. You will achieve more with it.

Bro, just take a rest and take some time go travel relax yourself. When you go travel, you will realize that anything will be good and better soon. Nothing is impossible to success and nobody will always are loser in their life. If you don't want become loser in your life, please, please wake up yourself and stay strong to facing your problem positively.

Let me share with you about my story a few years ago. Since I'm still young and around 13-14 years old, I'm start do my own online business. Yes, that time I didn't know everything. I never heard online business this term also and direct start my online business. Well, what I think on that time is, smartphone is the most easier to sell and have high profit for me on that time when I still student. I found a new and secondhand phone supplier and I start help him to sell the phone as well.

Within 2 year, yes, my online business very smooth to run and earn a lot of profit. BUT, what I can't expect is, after 2 year, I start believe him and plan to use all of my money that I earn through this 2 year to get the secondhand phone from him and want resell to other customer. I still remember I transfer around RM20,000 for him because I'm come from Malaysia and want to buy the phone from him. Unfortunately, he took my money and run away. My money gone, what I have done in 2 years gone also.

Yes, from the beginning, I really want give up my online business, really really sad, really disappointed, can be say that I really no more hope and motivation to do my online business again. Luckily, my father give me some advise and wake up and motivate me again to do online business, don't give up because you will always be a loser if you easy to give up.

Finally, now I have my own online business, have my own agent team, because of I never give up. I believe I can do and never lose if still have chance to success. Never miss out any chance to success although it is a small chance.

Bro, I can do, I believe you can do also. Please, wake up and believe me, God will never treat us so bad if we improve ourselves and never give up most of the time.

I hope that can see you will success one day. Good luck buddy. :") @Scorpion Ghost

William702 said:

Hang in there OP. It's good to write things down like this, it helps you think about them more and especially see that you are not alone. One minute everything is going well and you're making decent money and then by the time you wake up the next morning everything has been shut down or a change on a site you used in a method means that it all comes to a halt. It will be good motivation to adapt which I'm sure you will. The skills you have learned will help you transition into whatever you do next, whether it be online or offline.

The posts by @Billy Batts and @Sherb really hit home with me and I'm sure they will help you think about things moving forward too.

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Yeah it definitely helps working my thoughts out, and also any small consolation I get in knowing I'm not alone in this

Ecodor said:

Let your parents get the apartment and write to your name

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Actually, haha, I just had this idea the other day. It doesn't even have to be written in my name, it can be in mom's name, and then wait a few years and she "gifts" it to me. Free and clear

b00m666 said:

Stuff like this is very hard to go through. But trust me dude, if you go through this, you'll come out stronger and smarter. You got all that experience and knowledge in how to create something that gets you customers. The thing that killed you in the end was having only one way to get paid. You couldn't know this would happen to you ( there are a lot of paypal horror stories but look at how many people use paypal, those horror stories are in the minority)

I would take a break and get yourself together. Tell yourself what your ambition is (building something) Start over , and make sure the thing that ended your previous career won't be your downfall anymore. You were clearly doing well in the customer/service department. Im sure you can do it again.

Edit: and remember, the most successful people failed multiple times. Heck, some literally were in debt -40k to a 100k before becoming what they are today.

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Exactly, having only one way to get paid is what killed me. And it's not only that I only had one way to get paid, it's that I have ALL customers and they ALL pay me with Paypal. If there was ever a customer who wanted to pay differently they left because I didn't accept it. So I wish I had opened up more payment processors years ago, so that by now I would've had established customers who pay with all sorts of ways.

Oh well, best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago. The second best time to plant a tree is right now

Yeah I just always assumed that I'm a real person, I'm legit, I don't scam people, I offer fantastic customer support, so there's no way I will have problems with Paypal. I'm reasonable, I'm serious, they're reasonable (hah), they're serious (hah), so I figured I'd be all right. But I was wrong. Overnight my business (or the bulk of it) became "high risk," and then things changed. But even if that hadn't happened, people with completely legit and white hat businesses and transactions have been fucked by Paypal. And I knew it! I ready BHW, I see it. But I didn't do anything to protect myself, and I stuck it out with Paypal and only Paypal. Mistake that is being rectified

MrE said:

A few good posts so far, mainly that IM can be highly volatile; I think the takeaway is to be smart with your money and live well within your means for when rainy days come.... and they will. I've seen a ton of fast money guys come and go in this industry over the last decade, completely destroyed when the taps shut off. It would be wise to have some different streams of income that don't rely purely on one traffic source or income method.

My take is the big boys across the board have declared a war on "fake", and are grabbing for control and centralization. You can see it with content, reviews, verifications, and it seems like that has blown back to payment processor & site crackdowns for fake followers, social actions, reviews, etc. That's the easiest way to kneecap the industry, restrict the flow of cash. I think your idea is good that you should branch out to a few different payment processors and even offer slightly cheaper rates for skrill, payoneer, btc, whatever, and have PP for a last resort for buyers who insist on it. Get a few accts and setup some front sites that sell web design services, SEO or whatever and run the processing links through there to try mask your site.

Things change, crackdowns occur, pivots and re-imagination is required to constantly reinvent yourself. There are a lot more new platforms and opportunities coming online everyday than are being shutdown or restricted, every year I spend a week scouting platforms and playing with new features to think about how things can be weaponized or where there are holes. I constantly have a list longer than Santa of ideas to swap in if other things break.

Take some time offline to recharge, then look yourself in the mirror and decide if you want it bad enough or pack it in and go grill hot dogs in a grungy cramped food truck to just barely pay the bills. You decide.

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Oh yeah I got that covered. I save money, I hoard it, like crazy

I live WELL within my means, all too well within. I spend no money on anything at all, basically

I ain't going nowhere. Taking a little break now, coming back stronger soon!

deal with it said:

see if the thing makes your life experiences bad then drop it but can you live without it ? you need to answer.
If you look at what you are fundamentally doing is trying to earn a living, if you are trying too hard or you dont like the work then you should better go do something you like to do but we both know its not what it sounds like in sentence. And if you trying to be best or trying too hard to be more than somebody else then its going to go in vain coz there will always be someone better than you i think in this it might be money. Just strive to reach your full potential, this thing no one knows you can keep striving but it seems sensible as you can work on yourself but controlling outside situation is almost always not possible in this case it might be how paypal is behaving for you.

When you do things with total intense focus, something good may come out of this. Earning a living for a human being is not a issue. Just be calm and look at situation with little more clarity. Im sure you will figure the damn thing out for which you are going mad and making up conclusions about the entire thing.

Listen to sadhguru in youtube if you want little more clarity in your life processes.

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Thanks

umerjutt00 said:

Looks like you are at cross-roads. I would say take a few days off and think this clearly. A sane decision can go a long way rather than doing something out of frustration and anger. Good luck mate.

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Yeah, I'm taking a tiny little break right now. Still working, just not really growing, but also not working every waking hour at the moment

Exa-Kent said:

Bro, just take a rest and take some time go travel relax yourself. When you go travel, you will realize that anything will be good and better soon. Nothing is impossible to success and nobody will always are loser in their life. If you don't want become loser in your life, please, please wake up yourself and stay strong to facing your problem positively.

Let me share with you about my story a few years ago. Since I'm still young and around 13-14 years old, I'm start do my own online business. Yes, that time I didn't know everything. I never heard online business this term also and direct start my online business. Well, what I think on that time is, smartphone is the most easier to sell and have high profit for me on that time when I still student. I found a new and secondhand phone supplier and I start help him to sell the phone as well.

Within 2 year, yes, my online business very smooth to run and earn a lot of profit. BUT, what I can't expect is, after 2 year, I start believe him and plan to use all of my money that I earn through this 2 year to get the secondhand phone from him and want resell to other customer. I still remember I transfer around RM20,000 for him because I'm come from Malaysia and want to buy the phone from him. Unfortunately, he took my money and run away. My money gone, what I have done in 2 years gone also.

Yes, from the beginning, I really want give up my online business, really really sad, really disappointed, can be say that I really no more hope and motivation to do my online business again. Luckily, my father give me some advise and wake up and motivate me again to do online business, don't give up because you will always be a loser if you easy to give up.

Finally, now I have my own online business, have my own agent team, because of I never give up. I believe I can do and never lose if still have chance to success. Never miss out any chance to success although it is a small chance.

Bro, I can do, I believe you can do also. Please, wake up and believe me, God will never treat us so bad if we improve ourselves and never give up most of the time.

I hope that can see you will success one day. Good luck buddy. :") @Scorpion Ghost

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I don't really want to travel. Like, it doesn't do it for me. I'm here, then I'm there, and everything is exactly the same. I don't find much pleasure in traveling. It gets old in 5 minutes, maybe 10.

Sorry to hear about what happened to you mean. I hope you're back and banking by now

man... avoiding taxes but calling someone out who scammed 1,2k on you... kinda deserve it i guess tbh

Choose one day and sit by yourself and think what you want

shit man, hope your alright, talk to someone you trust and take a break from life