im fucked

I am sorry to hear that.

Hey OP, This Video Is For You




PM me I have 2 very good doctors on my speedial, I would like to discuss firstly your diet and move on from there (you wouldn't believe what a diet can do)

Sorry to hear this man, please feel better!

The-Truth said:

PM me I have 2 very good doctors on my speedial, I would like to discuss firstly your diet and move on from there (you wouldn't believe what a diet can do)

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Yes, this Vid is great and you are right. diet is very important.

you are what you eat or as hippokrates put it: let your diet be your medice (or vice versa)


But thats only an important part for good health.

Sadly we can't eat as well as we wanted to because most of the producers allready put some addtional shit into food.
Especially if you life in a city.

So you need also additional minerals.

And their is some more.... could recommend even more, but not for free...

Sorry to hear about your pain. Hope it gets better soon.

Sorry to hear that ,

op said:

L4/5 degenerative disc protrusion; episodic acute back spasms

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loclhero said:

I had the EXACT same thing 20 years ago.

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You are evolving. Those are symptoms from practicing IM. My great great grandfather had them too. They are a sign that you will evolve into a superior being, a Disciple of the Novus Internet Marketing Seclorum, and once the process is complete pain will go away.

loclhero said:

I had the EXACT same thing 20 years ago. This is SO correctable!

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Seems you are a old fart boy

well looks like i gotta quit smoking i hear weights are out
for smokers ... oh well

Yikes. My aunt works at a pain management clinic and she said there is a lot of good in going to a place that will properly manage your medication.

Good luck.

pains clinic is 1 on the agenda

feel for you mate, i've had degenerative discs for 30 odd years, i just stop doing anything when necessary

Get well soon Proxygo

proxygo said:

well 2 months ive waited for a result from an mri scan on my lower
back - not the news i wanted .

L4/5 degenerative disc protrusion
episodic acute back spasms
walks with a side lumber [ like house without the stick ]
spinal surgery will not help .

so. next time people say , proxygo yeh hes that rude guy,
remember, i maybe rude in nature , but being in pain 24/7
doesn't help either .

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Gosh man. We're all complaining about dips in our website rankings, but its stuff like this that really reminds you what is really important in life, isn't it.

There is really nothing they can do? That sucks Do you have medical insurance?

For now, the only advice I can give you is to feed your body all of the nutrients it needs, and to treat it as best as you can. Even though that won't fix the problem, the healthier your body is the better you will be able to manage it. Like with SEO... adapt and evolve

Once again, sorry mate

yup hear that windmill - gotta wait to see the doc again to
formulate a plan - weights - diet - pain killers - swimming
and also have to quit my only vice smoking because smokers
shouldnt do weights

ille be here ille always be grumpy probably even more so now
but i will always complete my service tasks and even when i
cant - my wife takes over and does it - she now knows how to
port scan my proxies - bleach them - and run them through s/box.
i never miss a target - although sometimes im a little late .

Proxygo I know your pain!
Just had first of three surgeries on 9/17, relocated ulna nerve (funnybone). Next is fuse C3-4 and artificial disc for C5, sometime in December. Then April-May nerve work in plexar (?) under shoulder blade... Pain is HELL!
Bad thing is even the neurosurgeon said not much can help with my pain other than narcotics, nordtryptaline etc won't work. On 10 mg percocet and 10 mg flexeril every 4 hrs. For a while was on 15 mg morphine sulphate every 6 hrs along with the others! Right now keeping it at as needed so avoiding the eventual dealing with needing to go to drug rehab. Maybe do twice a day.
Freaking walking zombie some times. Still have the pain, but when I do the pills, really don't give a shit.

well 2 months ive waited for a result from an mri scan on my lower
back - not the news i wanted .

L4/5 degenerative disc protrusion
episodic acute back spasms
walks with a side lumber [ like house without the stick ]
spinal surgery will not help .

so. next time people say , proxygo yeh hes that rude guy,
remember, i maybe rude in nature , but being in pain 24/7
doesn't help either .

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Yeah wow that really sucks mate. I speak from experience when I say I have somewhat of an idea of what your talking about when it comes to the overarching effect of chronic back pain. It effects every aspect of your life negatively, it's a bad situation.

I was involved in a car vs. tree in 1998 that left me with fractured verterbrae at L2/L3 and ruptured disk at L5/S1. Had to spinal fusions (very simply: two verterbrae are joined together with bone grafts, metal rods are used to hold spine in place until the graft is strong). I had, from what I've been told, an average recovery: some people almost completely recover, some people are left in excruciating pain for the rest of their lives. I was somewhere in the middle like many people: I live with chronic pain but I had a better recovery than some.

I will try to offer you some advice which you can mull over:

1) First many doctors and specialists including psychiatrists and psychologists are completely ignorant of what chronic pain can do to people (depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, loss of relationships - the list goes on and on and it's complex). At least that's the case in AU: find an occupational physician or similar and a GP that has experience in treating chronic pain.

People have this attitude towards chronic pain that is completely unrealistic: they think you "get used to it", you should "push through it" and so on. It doesn't work that way.

Many other specialists actually gave me harmful advice just because they didn't know - telling me to go back University and a normal work life, blaming me for it not working etc. Friends and family did the same thing. Basically doing these things led to more pain and I looked completely normal so there was no connection they could make which led to them thinking me unreasonable and so on for not taking their advice.

2) I was offered but refused proper (read: opioid based) pain medication for four years which was probably the worst decision I made. My quality of life dropped significantly and I was seeing suicide as ... well, a comforting option to have. I didn't want to die exactly but I could see the blessed relief it would offer. I had everything planned for it, didn't want to go through with it but having the option there was comforting.

I only started making some sort of recovery after a doctor more or less said he can't treat me unless I take adequate pain relief - and in all honesty this was the best treatment I ever recieved. You can't fight your way out of the effects of chronic pain if you have, well, chronic pain. You need to get it under control first.

For me anyhow starting to recieve adequate medication coincided with starting a pain management class which again was the first time I started to make some progress towards living with it rather than being on a never ending spiral downhill - which is what chronic pain causes if left untreated.

I guess ... well, you know, I have no idea of your circumstances but I just want to impress on you that what helped me was strong narcotic medication: and I had my friends, family etc all telling me not to do this because of addiction and drug stigma but in all honesty it was the best treatment I ever got - sometimes you need it. Living with chronic pain for years makes for a life not worth living and you don't have to - the medications are out there.

Sorry to hear about your situation and I hope you can work towards a better life.

Medical science isn't really advanced when it comes to chronic pain. I have had my share of back problems which is alright now. But, try to consult a few more specialists and hopefully you can get the best advice for your condition. Remember, when it comes to health problems, you should always try to get a few opinions from various specialist docs.

my circumstance is a simple 1 - 20 yrs ago when i was 22 i had a back
injury, i fell over backwards and landed flat down on my back...
for 20 yrs the pain has come and gone in fits and starts.
over the last 5 yrs its % pain has slowly increased - also decreasing some
of the things i did. 3 ex rays showed nothing, finally this year they did the
scan and found well you no the rest

L4/5 degenerative disc protrusion
episodic acute back spasms
walks with a side lumber [ like house without the stick ]

i didnt also mention between those 2 warn out discs it
a trapped nerve - it comes and goes - and they best they can
say is [ no surgery ] just exercise and pain killers.

the pains clinic as we call it here in the uk is next on the list .
ps im 42 some days i feel 72 , and if you no pain it does influence
your attitude - which for me sucks because it was never that great
to begin with [ cough ]

but you deal with the hand your dealt with and get on with it as
best you can ... my out look hasnt changed, i still do the things i
enjoy - it just takes longer