I'm drinking 2 monster energy drinks a day and constantly panic

MrDenz said:

Man, that is a lot...

You have to stop drinking that garbage so much, you know that already.

You basically addicted to shit.

I'm lazy to get through all messages but, do you drink coffee and if you do, how much and what type of coffee?

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Only cocoa right now. And I put around 30 grams into a cup. Otherwise there would be no caffeine (speed) in it.
I stick to one monster a day, but I buy large coca cola bottles without sugar too.
I don't consume sugar in drinks very often, but I consume up to 300 mg of caffeine daily.

Used to abuse caffeine pills heavily. I would split them in half and eat 100 mg 3 - 5 times a day to get the speedy feeling.
One day over the course of 15 hours I got up to 800 mg and I've felt so dizzy nothing would help. Just had to wait it out.

Masses don't realize heroin and coke are on par with caffeine in terms of addiction and the mechanisms are the same.
They just reject the facts.

Okay, playing with adenosine isn't the same as playing with dopamine and serotonin. But it's still related to cortisol and adrenaline which are wired with dopamine and serotonin action.
Bodies are just too complex to change one factor and expect them to function well.
If you have 0 of some substance that is produced within the system for the sake of its own existence, why would you want the system to function properly.

So I managed to skip the monster today. Figured out i need to take small steps and drink sugar free coca cola 150 ml cans. Can't buy 2l bottles. The big ones would let me to take a huge gulp and regret it afterwards.
I will substitute heroin (monster) with methadone (cocoa) in my therapy.

xhummus said:

Here's an idea:
Keep drinking the Monster by daily basis but every day decrease the amount.
Tomorrow you will drink 80% of the amount you usually drink.
In a week from now you will drink 50% and so on.
Keep in mind that you need to drink at the same time you've drinking up to now as it's a habit that you use to.

Also, you can read the book "The Power of Habits" which is great and you could understand how habits work and how to change them.

Good luck!

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Stuff like that is trying to help everyone. In fact I've read books like atomic habits and guess what. My pockets weren't larger.
My pockets got larger when I started to charge more and be simply consistent. There's no need to read 90 pages of some funky stories to understand what you want.

Right now I have self-help businessmen book to read. It's called When Coffee and Kale Compete. It's supposed to make me a great product developer as atomic habits were supposed to make me a great lifehacker.

Why not switch to coffee?

crnack said:

Only cocoa right now. And I put around 30 grams into a cup. Otherwise there would be no caffeine (speed) in it.
I stick to one monster a day, but I buy large coca cola bottles without sugar too.
I don't consume sugar in drinks very often, but I consume up to 300 mg of caffeine daily.

Used to abuse caffeine pills heavily. I would split them in half and eat 100 mg 3 - 5 times a day to get the speedy feeling.
One day over the course of 15 hours I got up to 800 mg and I've felt so dizzy nothing would help. Just had to wait it out.

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crnack said:

Masses don't realize heroin and coke are on par with caffeine in terms of addiction and the mechanisms are the same.
They just reject the facts.

Okay, playing with adenosine isn't the same as playing with dopamine and serotonin. But it's still related to cortisol and adrenaline which are wired with dopamine and serotonin action.
Bodies are just too complex to change one factor and expect them to function well.
If you have 0 of some substance that is produced within the system for the sake of its own existence, why would you want the system to function properly.

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The good thing in all this is that you are open about it.

A lot of time we try to help others while at the same time we ourselves do stupid shit!

There are certain things in life that we don't think about until something bad happens, then we say "I knew it".

It's easy for me and anyone else to say, "just stop drinking that much", I know how hard it can be to get over it!

Things you said in the post after response to me are facts!

Yes, you can't measure the energy drink and the crisis that a man feels when he gets addicted to a heroin crisis, but when it comes to habits, everything in life is a habit, now... There are good and bad habits.

Unfortunately, once someone tries any substance that will make a person "feel better" in one way or another, especially if the substance is something that opens the "third eye" and the person sees something that he has never seen or felt before, those things can be very fucked up if you are of a weak character!

I am someone who has been through all this and I know both the good and bad sides.

Basically, reading your posts, I see that you want to have some kind of boost in your life...

You just brought yourself and your body to that stage that you have to bring something into yourself to make that day go solidly...

Am I wrong when I write this?

Myst3ry said:

Why not switch to coffee?

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It's the same substance.

MrDenz said:

The good thing in all this is that you are open about it.

A lot of time we try to help others while at the same time we ourselves do stupid shit!

There are certain things in life that we don't think about until something bad happens, then we say "I knew it".

It's easy for me and anyone else to say, "just stop drinking that much", I know how hard it can be to get over it!

Things you said in the post after response to me are facts!

Yes, you can't measure the energy drink and the crisis that a man feels when he gets addicted to a heroin crisis, but when it comes to habits, everything in life is a habit, now... There are good and bad habits.

Unfortunately, once someone tries any substance that will make a person "feel better" in one way or another, especially if the substance is something that opens the "third eye" and the person sees something that he has never seen or felt before, those things can be very fucked up if you are of a weak character!

I am someone who has been through all this and I know both the good and bad sides.

Basically, reading your posts, I see that you want to have some kind of boost in your life...

You just brought yourself and your body to that stage that you have to bring something into yourself to make that day go solidly...

Am I wrong when I write this?

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The day goes solidly only when I take a 3 day long break. Then I drink and get the boost. But I also lose my attention. In some time I become like someone with ADD, very hyper.
Then when I drink a can, next day I have to drink another. I just can't resist because the next day I'm a little bit tired. Just a little bit. And it's enough to make me go and buy the drink.
Now I will drink for 3 days getting some benefits. Tolerance starts to build up. At day 4th I will feel like I need it to function because the craving will be so strong.
I am at day 14 of consistent drinking and I'm feeling only disturbing effects from 200 mg dose of caffeine.

I mean, it's not good, but you're obviously improving and very aware that it's bad, so that's a right step.

I used to do that shit too when I was younger. I'd just skip lunch and eat chips and energy drinks.

Shit is bad, but don't beat yourself up over it. Start progressing.

I stopped drinking soft and energy drinks when I realized water tastes and feels so good. It kills the thirst and you feel so good when drinking it.

Now I'm addicted to water.

crnack said:

It's the same substance.

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Coffee is NOT the same as energy drinks. Black coffee (no sugar) can even be good for you if you limit it to one or two a day, or not every day.

Energy drinks are poison for heart and brain.

Aleksandar916 said:

Coffee is NOT the same as energy drinks. Black coffee (no sugar) can even be good for you if you limit it to one or two a day, or not every day.

Energy drinks are poison for heart and brain.

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I will get the same hyper feeling from both. I can't reject the fact it's caffeine that is the stimulant in those products.
It's not possible that I will close my eyes and imagine coffee doesn't contain caffeine.
It just doesn't make any sense. How can you limit yourself if you ingest 150 mg from a strong coffee and you crash midday?
You don't want to feel drained at all which is impossible if you start the day with a hefty dose of caffeine.

Energy output can be too high and you will work over your capabilities on caffeine. You will do your work more mechanically, but certainly faster in that sense.
Unfortunately your focus suffers and the cognition isn't as good at the dose of 150 mg.

crnack said:

It's the same substance.


The day goes solidly only when I take a 3 day long break. Then I drink and get the boost. But I also lose my attention. In some time I become like someone with ADD, very hyper.
Then when I drink a can, next day I have to drink another. I just can't resist because the next day I'm a little bit tired. Just a little bit. And it's enough to make me go and buy the drink.
Now I will drink for 3 days getting some benefits. Tolerance starts to build up. At day 4th I will feel like I need it to function because the craving will be so strong.

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking...

You know, we are all different, our bodies are different, we get through different craps in our lives different...

Not sure where you from but if you could get somewhere near you a Turkish black coffee, the strong one, you should try that.

I drink a lot of coffee and I really mean a lot!

I have my own problems because of it, finished in a damn hospital like 2 years ago because I damaged my stomach because of coffee.

I would drink 2, 3 black when I get up and then 2, 3 coffee with milk!

I didn't even know it was so harmful, coffee with milk? Pfff...

I was convinced that if I drank so much coffee, to at least try to mix it with milk, I never dreamed what would happen to me.

Did I come to my senses after spending almost 10 hours in a hospital bed?

Yes, but for a couple of weeks!

Here I am drinking 3 black coffees today, before any meal + drinking a fourth with milk, then I would eat and take 2 or 3 more until the end of the day!

Yeah... I can tell someone what works and what doesn't, yeah right...

It will never be clear to me, we know what is wrong but we are still moving towards it! Like WTF!

I thought I was going to die the day I ended up in the hospital because I can’t describe that feeling other than as something very close to death.

A million times I’ve been mad at myself because I know I’m just hurting myself but I’m not stopping, I’m not reducing anything, I’m telling myself, if I get to that again I’d rather kill myself than go through what I went through, but, I still drink a lot of damn coffee!

I haven't drunk alcohol for 8 years, but I can't get over coffee and cigarettes, I just can't!

I'm going to the store. Haha, maybe I will find something else here.

MrDenz said:

Yeah, that's what I was thinking...

You know, we are all different, our bodies are different, we get through different craps in our lives different...

Not sure where you from but if you could get somewhere near you a Turkish black coffee, the strong one, you should try that.

I drink a lot of coffee and I really mean a lot!

I have my own problems because of it, finished in a damn hospital like 2 years ago because I damaged my stomach because of coffee.

I would drink 2, 3 black when I get up and then 2, 3 coffee with milk!

I didn't even know it was so harmful, coffee with milk? Pfff...

I was convinced that if I drank so much coffee, to at least try to mix it with milk, I never dreamed what would happen to me.

Did I come to my senses after spending almost 10 hours in a hospital bed?

Yes, but for a couple of weeks!

Here I am drinking 3 black coffees today, before any meal + drinking a fourth with milk, then I would eat and take 2 or 3 more until the end of the day!

Yeah... I can tell someone what works and what doesn't, yeah right...

It will never be clear to me, we know what is wrong but we are still moving towards it! Like WTF!

I thought I was going to die the day I ended up in the hospital because I can’t describe that feeling other than as something very close to death.

A million times I’ve been mad at myself because I know I’m just hurting myself but I’m not stopping, I’m not reducing anything, I’m telling myself, if I get to that again I’d rather kill myself than go through what I went through, but, I still drink a lot of damn coffee!

I haven't drunk alcohol for 8 years, but I can't get over coffee and cigarettes, I just can't!

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6 cups of coffee. That's about 0.5 gram of caffeine. Certainly nothing useful. I believe that if I stick to below 200 mg without sugar and additives it won't be so bad.

Honestly I'm bored with the monster. Maybe I will drink some soy sauce.

Your Panic attacks are the withdraw of substances going out of body.

It call detox reaction. If you stop drinking Monster you will expect reactions like Anxiety, Panic attacks because your Brain is Addicted.

How to leave this out? Let the symptoms come and use Wim hof technique breathing, cold shower also works, green tea is good for you.

Switch to coffee, it's better for your health.

crnack said:

Masses don't realize heroin and coke are on par with caffeine in terms of addiction and the mechanisms are the same.
They just reject the facts.

Okay, playing with adenosine isn't the same as playing with dopamine and serotonin. But it's still related to cortisol and adrenaline which are wired with dopamine and serotonin action.
Bodies are just too complex to change one factor and expect them to function well.
If you have 0 of some substance that is produced within the system for the sake of its own existence, why would you want the system to function properly.

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What are you on about? Look at someone quitting coffee and then look at someone quitting heroin and try claiming they are the same addiction..

"Masses don't realize" - lmao

Zbigniew said:

What are you on about? Look at someone quitting coffee and then look at someone quitting heroin and try claiming they are the same addiction..

"Masses don't realize" - lmao

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Your name implies you will argue.

Just was in the store for a drink and a bald idiot was threathening the cashier cause they didnt want to make a hot dog for him due to big queue. Haha.

crnack said:

Your name implies you will argue.

Just was in the store for a drink and a bald idiot was threathening the cashier cause they didnt want to make a hot dog for him due to big queue. Haha.

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My name implies I will argue? No idea what that means.

So you are obviously just chatting shit and you know it.

Zbigniew said:

My name implies I will argue? No idea what that means.

So you are obviously just chatting shit and you know it.

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There are facts I know and you don't realize that.