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illegal to access sites like silkroad?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by DarkParagon, Apr 27, 2015.

  1. DarkParagon

    DarkParagon Registered Member

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    I am curious about the deep/dark web and am looking to browse through certain sites like silkroad using the Tor browser. Is it illegal or can i get in trouble for browsing the silk road/other marketplaces?

    I am not interested in buying anything. any tips for browsing the deep web and staying safe/anonymous?
     
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    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Illegal or not, sometimes it makes sense to not fly too close to the Sun.
     
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    dont even try it, dark web is highly addicted thing. NSA cracked it?, i believe they are catching big cats not the normal users.
     
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  4. Capo Dei Capi

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    TOR is still a great program but it has to be used with a vpn and socks proxy just like it has been since it came out. And it doesn't matter if the NSA is monitoring unless your a terrorist. For protection in civil suits the NSA having records doesn't mean shit, since the company would have to subpoena the NSA if they even had a clue and it would be denied for National Security reasons since the NSA isn't going to reveal in a civil court case what they are monitoring.
     
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    I thought silkroad was shut down.
    "Based on data from 3 February 2012 to 24 July 2012, an estimated $15 million in transactions were made annually on Silk Road" Damn...
     
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    When you say 'browse through certain sites', do you mean 'look at photographs'?

    I read a statistic somewhere that 70% of Tor traffic is people looking for and looking at kiddie porn.

    And I've said this before, but if I was the government and was trying to find a way to catch more criminals, I would start by investigating people who download TOR.

    It makes sense that a higher proportion of them are going to be worthy of a closer look.
     
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    I dont think its against the law to browse these sites.
     
  8. Battleaxewarriors

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    You won't get in trouble for looking at the dark web.
    They are chasing the big
    fishes not a random user.

    Let us say you are working at a club as a bartender which is controlled by the crazy yakuza.
    Would the police go after you or members of the Yakuza?
     
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    OP nothing will happen if you are just browsing and I wouldnt say its addicting but its good to see what sort of stuff is for sale there. Just dont go looking for underage porn and youll be alright.
     
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    Lol, they would arrest everyone, including the bartender of a gang controlled bar.
     
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    Plot-Twist: Barley anyone in Japan calls the police when they get into trouble since their law-enforcers are corrupted (Most of them.) Therefor no one would be arrested.

    Now i am not going to jack the thread so let me say something on-topic:

    The chances of OP getting caught on the dark web is like getting caught on Pirate bay...Is there a chance? Yeah probably if i remember correctly a downloader on TPB got sued for millions because he downloaded copyrighted material.
    But is it a high chance of getting caught? Not at all..It is probably a bigger chance to get hit by thunder.

    24.000 people around the world are killed by thunder in a year, divide that by 12 and it is 2000 a MONTH that dies because of thunder.
    That is pretty crazy, eitherway i am 100% sure that hanging out with the bros on the dark web is safer. I doubt 2000 a month are arrested because of that..

    Due to my private investigation (Wikipedia) I have also read that 12 people are killed by a standing vending machine per year!
    That equals 1 a month...And i guess that's the same risk as getting caught on the dark web.

    Summary: There is a higher chance to get killed by thunder then visiting the dark web. Getting caught on the dark web is almost the same chance as getting killed by a standing vending machine!
     
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    No one has ever died from thunder
     
  13. Battleaxewarriors

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    Lightning.

    My investigation failed, i found a better source and it's around 50 a year smh..No wonder i almost failed high school
     
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    To answer the OP, it's not specifically illegal to visit .onion sites. It's all in the details of which sites you visit or how you use them. There's only 1 type of site I can think of that would be illegal just to visit and that has been mentioned above. It is pretty neat the first time you take a tour but you have to be careful
     
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    Bahahahaha

    Sorry!

    OP, do you know what killed the cat?
     
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  16. Patrick2014

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    I went onto TOR, not to buy anything as such, but more so out of interest.
    Have to be honest, I was paranoid I might click link into kid stuff. But I went onto silk road and other places, never bought anything just wanted see how it works. Also if you use it stick to only TOR sites, and not clear web links. such as links like you use in normal browser. It's not a big deal if you're doing nothing wrong :)
     
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    Wouldn't it depend on the jurisdiction of where someone lives whether its illegal or not to view certain materials on the .onion illegal material sites? There are so many countries and lower regions and cities with varying laws its hard to know if its legal or not for someone asking on BHW without knowing where they live to help them look up their local laws regarding the internet.
     
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    (Note: Couldn't quote exactly what LordPanda said due to moderation flagging the C word).

    If you're referring to the netflow vulnerability which allows someone to discover a TOR users IP address; that's a side channel attack, not a weakness with TOR itself.


    If you're referring to browser based vulnerabilities like the one with Firefox awhile back to discover the users IP address, those require the user to visit a site that implements the exploit.

    If it involves giving details about the system using TOR, that's what the TAILS operating system was designed to prevent, as all traffic is routed through TOR at the system level and memory is wiped every time the system restarts.


    That's not necessary and may even be more of a security risk since it involves 3rd parties that might be vulnerable in some way, or compromised at worst.

    While it's not the NSA's objective to go after drug trafficking, and cooperation between various agencies isn't exactly easy; quid pro quo still applies. DEA might ask the NSA for details for an investigation in exchange for details it has on an investigation the NSA is performing. So while they don't share everything, they do share some things.

    The original version was, after a sting operation where they were able to get the owner to solicit a federal agent to assassinate someone they had a dispute with. Not all of the management team was caught, and they created a second version. Which I believe disappeared shortly after with all of the bitcoins in the system along with it. Heard about it being revived again, but everyone I know, if they were smart, never used SR again after the first one closed; and if they were more than just a customer, they dropped off the grid.

    With the exception of child pornography, just looking at something is not a crime in the US. Even people who were caught buying stuff off SR, as long as it was personal use amounts, would generally receive what was referred to as a "love note" from the USPS stating that their package is being kept at the post office due to it containing controlled substances, and that you can come pick it up if you have documentation showing you have a permit to possess it.

    For larger amounts, or when law enforcement decided for whatever reason to actually bust you, they'd perform controlled drops to positively ID the recipient and show that they were expecting it, to aid prosecution; as well give them the opportunity to perform surveillance to see what they did with it (in case the person was just a courier). Was typically the reason for always checking the box "no signature required", since there is no reason for the mailman to personally hand it to you.

    Though the USPS does monitor package tracking requests on their website made from TOR exit nodes; so some people did get popped that way.

    Long story short: Use TOR all you want. Don't commit any crimes, and if you stumble upon illegal photographs, close the window immediately. That way it's more believable when you say it wasn't intentional (mens rea based defense).
     
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    access it only from a vps is the safe way i guess.or be ready for war. But i advise you stay away.It will lead to no good
     
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