I will not be vaccinated!

RichardDOT said:

again , I'm not questioning the integrity of all doctors or scientists that would be beyond stupid . we have brave people out there who let out the truth way earlier than the media or even FDA or CDC or any "doctor" who belong to any kind of organizations .. what I'm saying is that believing everything that is coming from these organizations just because the narrative that been said is coming out of a specialist "doctor or scientist" doesn't necessarily make it right . it's just stupid to put absolute trust on individuals who have their careers depend on such organizations.

Fact is People Died because of the vaccine and the public is less informed because these doctors and scientists have careers on the line .and they don't want to risk it. so it defy all kind of reason for someone to keep telling me "I Trust Science"
Your so called doctors or scientist killed people in the name of science because they rushed this crap and that is A FACT .

here's another guy who back up the inventor of the mRNA technology and explains exactly why the vaccine poses a risks.

P.S. done with thread literally tired lol see all of you after 2+ years .

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HoNeYBiRD said:

Somehow the peer-reviewed proof is missing both from the video and its description...

Youtube is as trustable as information source as iseethetruth.org.

Since apparently you weren't paying too much attention to most of what i posted above, here it is once more with a few additions:
Yes, people had more serious side effects caused by the vaccination, some of them even died, but it's such a tiny amount, that it wouldn't take too big of an effort to memorize the names of them all. The number of people killed by these vaccines are nothing compared to the number of people, who would have been dead already or would die, if they didn't take the vaccine. The death of a small amount of people versus the potential death of incomparably more.

Do you know how many doses have been administered already? 2.4 billion. Taking into account the single dose vaccines, that's roughly 1.5 billion fully vaccinated people. Do we have a number, how many died out of the 1.5 billion due to vaccination? We don't. Why is that? Probably because it's such a low amount, that it's not news-worthy being well within the allowed limits. If a lot of people would be dying due to vaccination, that's not something you can keep in a secret.

The global case fatality rate of this virus is somewhere between 2 and 3 percent, so every 2-3 out of 100 reported infected dies (don't mistake it for the mortality rate). If you calculate that for the 1.5 billion, who could have been potentially infected - but the vast majority won't be due to vaccination - that's an easy 30M-45M dead without the vaccines. These numbers seem shockingly high, but this is what came out after doing the math. Probably it's still an underestimation, because the children is not getting vaccinated yet, so they aren't included in that 1.5 billion and the fatality rate grows with age.

So what, 100 or 1,000 people died due to the vaccines out of the 1.5 billion vaccinated? It's sad for them, but so what? Without the vaccines tens of millions could potentially die.

It was rushed, yes. But what's the alternative? The virus is not going anywhere on its own. Are we supposed to just sit around silently waiting for the miracle to happen, while a couple million people dies and economies, whole verticals are completely wrecked?

I thought, it's established already: short-term side effects of the vaccines are not a concern, potentially dying from the vaccines is not a concern either, long-term side effects are.

And try to broaden your horizon. There are 4 different technologies how the presently available covid19 vaccines were developed. MRNA vaccines are just one type. If someone don't want to take them, because it's a new technology, there are alternatives, which were developed via the decades old method used to develop the vast majority of the other vaccines we use these days.

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lucky.sparks said:

you are clearly smart and inteligent and I like to read what you wrote there but you should not waste your time arguing with dumb people online, you will not change their minds. we got vaccines and its the most important thing, let them die or suffer if they like, people like them understand only when they are hurt, not by experience of others

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lucky.sparks said:

you are clearly smart and inteligent and I like to read what you wrote there but you should not waste your time arguing with dumb people online, you will not change their minds. we got vaccines and its the most important thing, let them die or suffer if they like, people like them understand only when they are hurt, not by experience of others

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justalazyseo said:

In most countries, most of the people will get vaccinated. We're talking of solid 80% here and that number is only excpected to go up. Let's go ahead an assume that 50% of all the people are working age. Who the hell is going to replace the 50% if only 20% are unvaccinated? And in reality it will be a lot less than 20% cause many of those would be small kids who don't need it and people who are too sick to take it, which means they are likely not able to work either.

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RichardDOT said:

indeed i'm dumb for wasting time here.

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lucky.sparks said:

Yes, yes you are, because you think mortality rate is the problem and not medical system overload like it's now in India where there is huge demand for oxigen, etc. In my country(north europe) we were super close to that, where when patient had to be hospitalized, paramedics did not know where to drive because all hospitals were full.

your personal luck is nowhere an indicator to what is going on or even a guarantee that next time you will get out with same results.

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lucky.sparks said:

Yes, yes you are, because you think mortality rate is the problem and not medical system overload like it's now in India where there is huge demand for oxigen, etc. In my country(north europe) we were super close to that, where when patient had to be hospitalized, paramedics did not know where to drive because all hospitals were full.

your personal luck is nowhere an indicator to what is going on or even a guarantee that next time you will get out with same results.

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RichardDOT said:

last year i got covid and I'm still alive without a vaccine or else I wouldn't be writing this ?
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...atients-show-signs-of-long-term-immunity.aspx
so basically what your saying i should have took an experimental jab without knowing it's long term effects just for a "wee-bit better.immunity"

ok thanks for your opinion .. indeed i'm dumb for wasting time here.


don't forget your 2 layer mask please. we don't want to lose people like you they are really so precious .

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RichardDOT said:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/04/how-long-do-covid-19-vaccines-last
did you know you guys are probably need to get a vaccine each year ? probably a booster each 6 months :ROFL:
oh god... the next 2 to 5 years are really going to be interesting well.
adieu

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svensbr said:

Nope, not 80% , LOL, not even 20% of the ENTIRE WORLD will get this vax. They are pumping and faking statistics to show people get vaccinated because there is BARELY anyone getting vaccinated, barely anyone. So 20-30% at max will have the vax, there is still 70% of unvaxxed population. Based on this the logic of top HRs isn't really failing, plus they can recruit smarter people.

And you obviously don't think companies made this rule up, there are people way higher than any company or government.

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your own fucking text.

HoNeYBiRD said:

If you recovered, the best course of action would be to go and take a blood test, where they can not only tell you, if you were infected or not, but they can also tell you, whether your antibody level is sufficient or not. In the light of that you should take the vaccine or not, which you won't take either way, but at least you'll know the results. Many people regardless that they recovered, don't develop enough or any antibodies. It's especially true, if you only had a mild case.

Vaccines provoke a higher level of immune response than the infection itself, so yes, vaccinated people have way higher antibody levels than those, who "simply" recovered. It's not just a wee-bit better, but multiple times better immunity for most people.


There's no consensus on whether a booster will be needed and if it will be needed, when. 6 months was the worst case scenario, which already turned out to be not the case, otherwise they would have needed to start re-vaccinating those people already, who got their jabs in December/January, which is apparently not happening.
Some research say, that there will be no need for boosters at all. Others say there will be a need, not because of decreasing antibody levels, but because new vaccines will provide a better protection against mutants. The director of the Gamaleya Research Institute said that their vaccine (Sputnik V) provides protection for 2-3 years supposedly.

Time will tell. Vaccines are available, the system was stress-tested and can be re-booted, if needed. There will be nothing in the way. But there are alternative ways under development, so it easily can be that booster jabs won't be needed, because you can pop a pill or use a naval spray. The former is getting developed by Pfizer, the latter by the Russians.

The next few years will be interesting indeed, but not why you think.

Interesting thing just happened. I was pmed by TheVigilante asking how come that the stadium is packed on the Hungary-Portugal European Championship football game he's watching, is it covid19 over here? I told him, that the situation improved to the point, where they lifted most of the restrictions already. You could visit the game with your vaccination/protection certificate as a domestic supporter or with a recent negative PCR test as a foreigner. These are photos from the stadium from the recent game, which just ended:

More photos https://m.galeria.index.hu/sport/futball/2021/06/15/magyarorszag_-_portugalia/index.php.
As you can see, just like old times, the stadium is packed, no-one is wearing a mask.

You can guess why the restrictions were lifted. Surprise, surprise, my country is the 2nd after Malta in the EU, when it comes to vaccination level, which is above 50%. If you add all the people to that, who weren't vaccinated but recovered like yourself, that's already seem to be enough to keep the virus at bay and let people back even to the biggest events with certain rules for now.

It's just a reaction to one of your previous posts, where you said that nothing will change even after people got vaccinated, the restrictions will stay. Now how funny it is to see that statement of yours disproved in real life almost live?! lol

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"The WHO has been accused of suppressing every other alternative treatment for COVID-19 which is outside its recommendations, regardless of whether it works or not.


Earlier, it was revealed in a shocking investigation that WHO banned Hydroxychloroquine based on a fake study by a pornstar and a science-fiction writer. Later, in an ongoing investigation, a French doctor testified in parliament that Glead sent him Death threats after he started talking about HCQ as a cure for COVID-19.

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justalazyseo said:

Of course "they" are pumping fake statistics. How am I not surprised about this. And of course you pick one thing where you can claim that this is a lie, totally skipping all of my other points, either because you are a troll or lacking the intellectual capacity to actually counter argument.

Due to my work, I happen to know for a fact that the % (at least in europe) is already well above 30%. Unless individuals are forging then en masse and getting away with it.

Also, let's take your scenario and assume for 1 second it's true. Then Google will need to rehire "only" 4000 engineers. Companies like this already have the smartest people in the world. Where the hell will they hire more. Maybe you work at Walmart or smth, but people who actually work in the field know for a fact (for years) that there is a serious shortage on software engineers

Most of my family/friends are already vaccinated. Not that you're going to believe it. Probably rolling your eyes there thinking I'm a CIA agent or something.

It's kinda obvious that you're pulling these numbers out of your ass. First you say "not even 20%" then in literally 2 sentences later you change it to 20-30%. It's obvious you don't fact check anything you read, but I would have not expected (jk, there is nothing that you insane people can't do that will not surprise me anymore) you to not fact check your own fucking text.

From context it seems you're also a COVID denier. I feel sorry for you. I really do. I can't imagine how horrible it is to think that whole world is run by lizard people or illuminati or whatever. I hope you will some day get the help you need. Meanwhile, do the world a favor and do not reproduce. Enough retarded people in the world as is.

PS. It's called clozapine. Ask your doctor if it's right for you tho.

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HoNeYBiRD said:

If you recovered, the best course of action would be to go and take a blood test, where they can not only tell you, if you were infected or not, but they can also tell you, whether your antibody level is sufficient or not. In the light of that you should take the vaccine or not, which you won't take either way, but at least you'll know the results. Many people regardless that they recovered, don't develop enough or any antibodies. It's especially true, if you only had a mild case.

Vaccines provoke a higher level of immune response than the infection itself, so yes, vaccinated people have way higher antibody levels than those, who "simply" recovered. It's not just a wee-bit better, but multiple times better immunity for most people.


There's no consensus on whether a booster will be needed and if it will be needed, when. 6 months was the worst case scenario, which already turned out to be not the case, otherwise they would have needed to start re-vaccinating those people already, who got their jabs in December/January, which is apparently not happening.
Some research say, that there will be no need for boosters at all. Others say there will be a need, not because of decreasing antibody levels, but because new vaccines will provide a better protection against mutants. The director of the Gamaleya Research Institute said that their vaccine (Sputnik V) provides protection for 2-3 years supposedly.

Time will tell. Vaccines are available, the system was stress-tested and can be re-booted, if needed. There will be nothing in the way. But there are alternative ways under development, so it easily can be that booster jabs won't be needed, because you can pop a pill or use a naval spray. The former is getting developed by Pfizer, the latter by the Russians.

The next few years will be interesting indeed, but not why you think.

Interesting thing just happened. I was pmed by TheVigilante asking how come that the stadium is packed on the Hungary-Portugal European Championship football game he's watching, is it covid19 over here? I told him, that the situation improved to the point, where they lifted most of the restrictions already. You could visit the game with your vaccination/protection certificate as a domestic supporter or with a recent negative PCR test as a foreigner. These are photos from the stadium from the recent game, which just ended:

More photos here.
As you can see, just like old times, the stadium is packed, no-one is wearing a mask.

You can guess why the restrictions were lifted. Surprise, surprise, my country is the 2nd after Malta in the EU, when it comes to vaccination level, which is above 50%. If you add all the people to that, who weren't vaccinated but recovered like yourself, that's already seem to be enough to keep the virus at bay and let people back even to the biggest events with certain rules for now.

It's just a reaction to one of your previous posts, where you said that nothing will change even after people got vaccinated, the restrictions will stay. Now how funny it is to see that statement of yours disproved in real life almost live?! lol

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pokerobuka said:

Lot of kuku people here. Vaccines almost doubled human lifespan in last 100 years. Imagine if our ancestors protested against it, and didn't want to be test labs. We would be still dying from easily preventable diseases.

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TWdesigns69 said:

LOL I think they did many clinical tests for many years (like at least 10 if am not mistaken) before they released them to the public.

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