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I hate my AWESOME BOSS!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by MrDoru, Aug 12, 2010.

  1. MrDoru

    MrDoru Regular Member

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    So...guys.

    I ask for several minutes of your time to listen to my story and to share your honest and sincere advice.

    About 4 weeks ago i got a job. A high paying job($1200). I live in Romania and here that is high. Most of my former college buddies work for $600 and they are happy.
    My boss is AWESOME. It's a privilege to work with him. I enjoy every minute we share thoughts and ideas.

    BUT...yeah....there is always a BUT.

    I was supposed to get paid on the 4th of AUGUST. And I was delayed with the all known word "tomorrow". Tomorrow is pay day. tomorrow...and so on.
    Yesterday...he said there was a problem with a client and we will be getting our money TUESDAY.
    When he left today he said, SEE YOU ON WEDNESDAY. He is going on a short vacation with his family.

    So...here is where I'm at.

    I love this guy. (not in a gay kinda way). He is awesome. I trust him completely. But this being late and then saying tomorrow and all this crap is quite frustrating.

    What do you guys recommend I should do?

    My online income is quite ok(about $200-$300) at the moment. And this whole being late problem is making me have thoughts of leaving.
    Also most of the people I am involved with when working are assholes and slackers. It took 3 weeks to move a site to another host and to make some emails and to redirect some domains. A task I can do in hours.

    Please council me guys.
     
  2. searchwiser

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    I think I would too say "See you Wednesday!!" Tell him you dont work for free and will resume your work when your paid...
     
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  3. MrDoru

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    like I said. He is an awesome person and I think he just had a rough period. A case of bad luck. I forgot to mention that he apologized for the inconvenience and he will make it up to me somehow.

    I tend to be forgiving and understanding but still...empathy doesn't pay bills.
     
  4. HoNeYBiRD

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    i was in a very similar situation about a year ago and long story short i filed a lawsuit against my former boss, she owes me two months salary (yea, it's not too much, but it's my money), my attendant sent her warning letters a couple of times, but she didn't pay anything till now even though she promised it several times (that's why i waited with the lawsuit), but she fucked up because she'll be forced to pay not just my salary with interest but the administrative fees as well
    and i said it's a very similar situation, because i knew her before i started to work for her and i liked her

    it's a very hard decision especially as you said it's a very good salary in your country, so i guess, you can't find a job like this one every day, but if i were you, i'd quit, before you work more for him for "free"
     
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    Do you think the business is in trouble? If it is, and it goes bust your going to find yourself out of pocket. It doesnt sound to me like business is good if his cash flow is so poor.

    I would not have the nerve to tell people I am taking the family on vacation if I hadnt even payed my staff.

    If it were me I'd take a few days off whilst he is away, and say that you cant afford to work for free.
     
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  6. gonzomcribbinz

    gonzomcribbinz Regular Member

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    If I was getting free work from you, I'd be nice to you as well.

    Look at it this way:

    Your professional relationship with your boss is BUSINESS...NOT friendship. Make a business decision right now to tell him the deal...you're not working another day until he pays as agreed. You've upheld your end of the employee/employer agreement and he needs to do the same.

    I know that any boss that owed me money walked out the door on vacation wouldn't get very far.
     
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  7. Hierarchy

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    ask him for a post dated check
     
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  8. bertbaby

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    You are being used and abused in a very nice manner. Professionally state you need to be paid and make other plans.
     
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  9. wrangler

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    On the other hand you potentially have a great job - if this is a one-off problem. So how about letting it fly just this once. However the second time it happens, waste no time in leaving. Up to you whether you want to make this clear to your boss or not.
     
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  10. Vento

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    Yeah, If it's happening regularly, leave.

    Every business has it's problems, but you're an Employee and should be paid.

    Good Luck.
     
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  11. MrDoru

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    Here's my thought.

    I will tell him something like:

    "Ok man. I understand. You have some money problems. Shit happens to everybody. But bills are bills, rent is rent. Tell me a deadline. A final day when I will get my salary 100% sure. For example now you said on Wednesday. That will be the final day no excuses. When we met, you said the 3rd-4th each month. Let's say 15th. But I expect each month on the 15th my salary. NO EXCUSES."

    Is that ok?
     
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  12. dynander

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    Tell him that you have a big problem, and you need something, let's say $200 or $300. Make up a good history like, my dad have a problem, or my bro is injured, something touchy.

    If he gives you money, probably is a good guy with a money problem, if he still don't give you money, is a *****

    do you get the idea?
     
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  13. littleg2008

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    Yeah it totally depends on how long you have had this job, if its your first payment your waiting for then i am pretty sure he is using you. If you have worked and been paid quite a few times previously then give him benefit of the doubt and actually speak with him. Raise your concerns to him, explain that your worried he is not going to pay. Dont threaten to leave in the first instance, as if any of my employees threatened me with leaving if it was a genuine reason for not paying then i would show them the door before they get the chance to resign.

    Sounds like you have a good employer and i hope it is a genuine reason. All i can say is be genuine back initially, speak with him and air you concerns about not being paid.
     
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  14. Maxell

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    my personal opinion would be if he is a good guy, you should be good with him, by Wednesday you almost work for another 15 days, so get salary on Wednesday and on 26th tell him that you have to pay your loan and you need salary earlier (3 days) so he will not have a chance to excuse this time, get salary and then decide whether to stay or leave..
     
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  15. CoyoteAssassin

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    Is it $1200 day/week/month/year?

    You should expect two-weeks no pay. In the US we have a W2- this makes things "official". Do you have the same documentation or are you a "sub-contractor"?

    I would stick it out. Do IM work while at work.
     
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  16. AriVat

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    Sorry to hear this story of yours. Unfortunately doing business in Romania is totally different than anywhere else, or maybe India would be the closest resemblance and for someone that has never been in contact with that world would be difficult to understand. I personally did some business in Romania in the past and although it wasn't a total disaster I lost a lot of time and spent a lot of energy making the things work as they should have. My guess, in your situation would be to wait a bit longer before leaving. As the word "immediately" over there means at least a week or more, give the guy the benefit of the doubt but in the same time tell him that this should not be the habit but rather an exception. If you have things to learn from him do it fast and then move to a western corporation as $1200 salary will be worth that much only if gets in your bank account every month.

    Cheers,

    Ari
     
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  17. BassTrackerBoats

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    He can't pay you but he can afford to take a vacation?

    That doesn't pass the smell test.
     
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  18. dynander

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    You say that are earning $200 or $300 online, and that $600 is a normal salary in your country (and in mine too). What if you can do $600 online and do it full time? I think that's the best bet.
     
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    Sounds like he went on vacation with your paycheck! :zx11pisse

    Seriously, threaten to leave if you're not paid. You have to put yourself in a higher regard and understand that this is unacceptable. Let him know it.
     
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    I'm with BassTracker - He can take his family on vacation but can't pay you? That is some serious bs.

    It doesn't matter how much you like the guy, if he won't pay you, you're wasting your time.
     
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