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How does this site work.

Every freelancer here starts at $100 and quickly goes to $300. Other clowns keep asking i me what my budget is, as if that is somehow their business.

I am quitting this forum and returning to Fiverr. BHW Admin, you should publish some kind of "Best Practices" document for your freelancers.
 
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Yes there are.
Better you stand strong with your budget so that someone will fit into it when negotiated!
 
Gazoo1000 said:
How does this site work.

Every freelancer here starts at $100 and quickly goes to $300. Other clowns keep asking i me what my budget is, as if that is somehow their business.

I am quitting this forum and returning to Fiverr. BHW Admin, you should publish some kind of "Best Practices" document for your freelancers.
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What is your budget simply means " how much do you want to pay". Anyone kind enough to ask you that question is giving you the flexibility to tell them if you want to pay $50 etc. You should not feel offended, you should feel privileged for the opportunity to name your price - except maybe your budget is so low that you are ashamed to admit it openly.

Thankfully, in the BHW JrVIP community, we respect the dignity of labour and commensurate pay and expect potential clients to do the same. Like an unspoken union, we do not engage in a bidding war to undercut each other. If a budget does not fit what we consider worth our while, we walk away. You shouldn't be offended if people choose to walk away.
 
Only 8 messages and got frustrated so soon?
 
There is a difference between a forum which also has a marketplace and a marketplace which also has a forum.
And, lots of services are unique at BHW. At BHW one also has the advantage of communicating directly with a seller via Skype, email, etc.
Anyways, each person needs to go with what he or she is comfortable with.
 
Everyone is not a freelancer who would work at 1 usd a hour. There are agencies that charge a lot more. Also hiring someone in India/Asia doesn't mean the labour is cheap. All depends on quality, experience, demand, supply, plus all other variables.

Yes I personally don't like being asked for budget too, that's a turn off.
 
Trust WorkShop said:
There is a difference between a forum which also has a marketplace and a marketplace which also has a forum.
And, lots of services are unique at BHW. At BHW one also has the advantage of communicating directly with a seller via Skype, email, etc.
Anyways, each person needs to go with what he or she is comfortable with.
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Exactly
 
Brickbat1 said:
What is your budget simply means " how much do you want to pay". Anyone kind enough to ask you that question is giving you the flexibility to tell them if you want to pay $50 etc. You should not feel offended, you should feel privileged for the opportunity to name your price - except maybe your budget is so low that you are ashamed to admit it openly.

Thankfully, in the BHW JrVIP community, we respect the dignity of labour and commensurate pay and expect potential clients to do the same. Like an unspoken union, we do not engage in a bidding war to undercut each other. If a budget does not fit what we consider worth our while, we walk away. You shouldn't be offended if people choose to walk away.
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I agree, "What is your budget" means what do you want to pay. But this is not the right question. For a simple landing page, a web designer has a pretty good idea of how much work it will take and how much it will cost. When you buy a bottle of single malt whiskey, does the guy ask what's your budget? No he just charges you the price of the Whiskey.

CyberCommander said:
you get what you pay
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Sometimes (like here on BHW) you pay and get nothing, as I did.

sageshark said:
Only 8 messages and got frustrated so soon?
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No, I have been at this for months with others here at BHW.
 
Gazoo1000 said:
BHW Admin, you should publish some kind of "Best Practices" document for your freelancers.
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Gazoo1000 said:
I agree, "What is your budget" means what do you want to pay. But this is not the right question. For a simple landing page, a web designer has a pretty good idea of how much work it will take and how much it will cost. When you buy a bottle of single malt whiskey, does the guy ask what's your budget? No he just charges you the price of the Whiskey.
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Someone should have written a "Best Practices" for buyers too. If you need a job done within your budget, you should have stated your budget in your request post from the start, that way freelancers can know directly if your job is worth responding to for them.
 
Gazoo1000 said:
I agree, "What is your budget" means what do you want to pay. But this is not the right question. For a simple landing page, a web designer has a pretty good idea of how much work it will take and how much it will cost. When you buy a bottle of single malt whiskey, does the guy ask what's your budget? No he just charges you the price of the Whiskey.
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Here lies the problem. Your perception of "the standard price" will differ with the perception of others, depending on where they are coming from. There is no "standard price". You have to recognise that and be willing to negotiate.

ps: use multiquotes feature to reply to multiple people at once when necessary.
 
Gazoo1000 said:
How does this site work.

Every freelancer here starts at $100 and quickly goes to $300. Other clowns keep asking i me what my budget is, as if that is somehow their business.

I am quitting this forum and returning to Fiverr. BHW Admin, you should publish some kind of "Best Practices" document for your freelancers.
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Gazoo1000 said:
I agree, "What is your budget" means what do you want to pay. But this is not the right question. For a simple landing page, a web designer has a pretty good idea of how much work it will take and how much it will cost. When you buy a bottle of single malt whiskey, does the guy ask what's your budget? No he just charges you the price of the Whiskey.
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Your problem there is not understanding that industry. It’s not the forum with the issue, it’s your perception of whom you’re attempting to work with.

Their questions are to ascertain exactly what features you’re looking for. The more features, the more complex each feature, the higher the budget needs to be.

Gazoo1000 said:
Sometimes (like here on BHW) you pay and get nothing, as I did.
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If you have an issue with a seller that cannot be resolved, bring that issue (with proof and according to this sections rules) here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/dispute-resolution.31/
 
I say mine , which as always is out of the chorus .
Over the years , I have asked for support from many freelancers ( not here , I did not even know the existence of this forum ) .
The work has been done , the costs I paid 3 or 4 years ago seemed to me an exorbitant amount , as what I was asking to accomplish seemed " relatively simple " .
Now , after all this time I have learned my lesson , even the most complex things I do myself .
Many may say , yes but you can't do it all yourself , or the things you accomplish on your own by banging your head about it for days at the end will never have a result comparable to the work delivered by freelancers who specialize in a particular field .
Nothing could be more wrong , because when you do something by yourself , it means that you are learning it , and when you are learning it for yourself you go deep and understand that if you still lose an hour's work or two or maybe three , the result will be a thousand times better than any freelancers who only wants to pocket the money , get it done as soon as possible and never speak to you again .
The concept of the freelancer is great , the problem is always the same , that is , it is we men who make everything shit .
 
Imagine going to a store to buy a sandwich and they won't let you in saying "Kindly tell us your budget for the sandwich sir"

I get that for some larger projects it's necessary to discuss a budget beforehand, but just recently I tried to buy a fb account here on BHW marketplace and despite me clearly stating that I want to buy an account for the listed price the seller instantly went "what's your budget sir?"

That's truly infuriating.
 
Gazoo1000 said:
How does this site work.

Every freelancer here starts at $100 and quickly goes to $300. Other clowns keep asking i me what my budget is, as if that is somehow their business.

I am quitting this forum and returning to Fiverr. BHW Admin, you should publish some kind of "Best Practices" document for your freelancers.
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The problem isn't the forum, it is your request's and the Fiverr price expectation.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/need-a-landing-page-site-revamp.1484008/https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/landing-page-and-website-revamp.1484252/https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/need-a-landing-page.1486210/https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/i-need-a-landing-page.1488293/https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/h...pped-off-when-you-hire-a-free-lancer.1494141/https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/i-still-need-a-landing-page-for-my-site.1495523/
 
OpenSauce said:
I get that for some larger projects it's necessary to discuss a budget beforehand, but just recently I tried to buy a fb account here on BHW marketplace and despite me clearly stating that I want to buy an account for the listed price the seller instantly went "what's your budget sir?"
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I´ve got that answer too, some time ago when the seller quoted $30 and his BST was around $10 minus a discount he offered in the thread, some sellers take every opportunity to house up the price. That is why it is important to state a budget in the request post.
 
Gazoo1000 said:
How does this site work.

Every freelancer here starts at $100 and quickly goes to $300. Other clowns keep asking i me what my budget is, as if that is somehow their business.

I am quitting this forum and returning to Fiverr. BHW Admin, you should publish some kind of "Best Practices" document for your freelancers.
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I hate cheap-minded people like yourself - go get your Slave Practices at fiverr :devil:
 
Gazoo1000 said:
For a simple landing page, a web designer has a pretty good idea of how much work it will take and how much it will cost
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Once they have your budget, they can suggest you a landing page in your budget range. Some people have $5k for landing pages with advanced features and some people barely have $20. It's not uncommon to ask for budget and then suggest the type of product. You're getting mad over standard business practices.
 
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