I discovered how algorithm work

Hinori said:
The algorithm has always been like that. Your channel basically converted from late views to early views, it happens once you keep on getting promoted by yt (or at least from what I can see, that's what might have happened to you). I also have a channel where once I revive it from the dead, it gets big late views 12hrs later, 24hrs later etc, but if I keep uploading for few days, then I start getting boost in min13 from uploading and the channel will likely stop getting late boosts and rely more on the first 1hour. If I was right and you got the biggest browse boost in the first hour, then you can easily get big views if you change your uploading pattern. If not, then I don't know what to say.
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What do you mean change " uploading pattern " ? Sorry i'm not good at english, translate doesnt give a good answer :(
P/s : Ok i understand now, yes most likely i will wait till my viral video lower its views a bit first then upload another because algorithm mostly mess up my CTR if it boost in the first hour :D
THE DARK 007 said:
do not tell me you are making video like "all bosses in game, all cutscene" etc ..
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Nope, noone watch that kind of trash video, no creative at all
 
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PaddyVu said:
What do you mean change " uploading pattern " ? Sorry i'm not good at english, translate doesnt give a good answer :(
P/s : Ok i understand now, yes most likely i will wait till my viral video lower its views a bit first then upload another because algorithm mostly mess up my CTR if it boost in the first hour :D

Nope, noone watch that kind of trash video, no creative at all
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Bro, please write the result, has it gotten better
 

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infomen said:
Bro, please write the result, has it gotten better
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Ok here's the result, despite of high CTR plus 80% retention ( length is 50s ), i think they need to comment on my video also, like is not enough, 2 of videos mostly serious work and it's not funny so they dont want to comment. I notice 9/10 of my videos that dont have funny moments in it will mostly stop at 3-4k views while having atleast 1 funny moment in it will gain up to 100k views and they discusstion a lot about that funny moment... I need to test this further.
Video with 1m views only have 600 comments while the one with over 2m2 views have nearly 2k comments.
I notice some of those comments in my viral video cause a freaking wars to everyone, 1 comment add like 100-200 replies, this should help a lot. I think?
I will try to keep CTR as high as possible because even the boosting stop, it still yield atleast 30-40 views/hour, imagine 1000 video like this will yield a lot
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PaddyVu said:
Ok here's the result, despite of high CTR plus 80% retention ( length is 50s ), i think they need to comment on my video also, like is not enough, 2 of videos mostly serious work and it's not funny so they dont want to comment. I notice 9/10 of my videos that dont have funny moments in it will mostly stop at 3-4k views while having atleast 1 funny moment in it will gain up to 100k views and they discusstion a lot about that funny moment... I need to test this further.
Video with 1m views only have 600 comments while the one with over 2m2 views have nearly 2k comments.
I notice some of those comments in my viral video cause a freaking wars to everyone, 1 comment add like 100-200 replies, this should help a lot. I think?
I will try to keep CTR as high as possible because even the boosting stop, it still yield atleast 30-40 views/hour, imagine 1000 video like this will yield a lot
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Paddy what do you think about the "UPLOADING PATTERN" that Hinori mentioned, will you get "EARLY VIEWS" according to this scheme?​

 
Hinori said:
The algorithm has always been like that. Your channel basically converted from late views to early views, it happens once you keep on getting promoted by yt (or at least from what I can see, that's what might have happened to you). I also have a channel where once I revive it from the dead, it gets big late views 12hrs later, 24hrs later etc, but if I keep uploading for few days, then I start getting boost in min13 from uploading and the channel will likely stop getting late boosts and rely more on the first 1hour. If I was right and you got the biggest browse boost in the first hour, then you can easily get big views if you change your uploading pattern. If not, then I don't know what to say.
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If it doesn't bother you, is it possible in detail your approach to early and late views. Thank you in advance, you give very "subtle" information that you will not hear from YouTuber GURUS
 
infomen said:
Your topic made me study the analytics-views tab more deeply and comparing it with your posts, the monitor lizards of potential improvement of channels by 2-3 times immediately come to mind.

Now my oldest channel is only 1 month old and I already have 19 million views.

I use mostly short videos at the start, then move on to longer videos and ...

There are a lot of developments, perhaps I will share them here) There is a script template that can automatically activate the 101 video in the draft, without manual labor.

If you're interested, we could strengthen each other and share it with our brothers on this forum!)
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yes please! :)
 
Depends on a lot of factors.
Had times when it boosts it in the first 5 minutes and stayed like that, had times when it boosts it and then disappeared, come back after 2-3 days, sometimes needed up to 7 days. When that 7 days passed, i just changed the title and boom back in serps immediately. Thumbnail is also important for click, someone looks only at the thumbnail like me, and text after or never. Had times when it got in serps after 3-4 days of publishing. Sometimes stays on low searches kws, just change title, description and boosted some with workers to click and watch the videos, boom ranked on more kws. Kws are key here :)
 
Engagement from the comment is the key here, high CTR is not enough. It's easy from now on, that's all the factors to go viral at this point. They are causing a war in my video also LOL. Your content must be funny/joke enough to get like this Absolutely you dont need external if your content is engaging. That's all from now on, changing title or thumbnail DOESNT affect algorithm but yourself instead, the amount of impression give to everyone is the same after changing, so if your title is trash, they dont click it, view reduces, but impression give still the same. So it's good to change title if you feel CTR is bad.
I will stop posting from now on because i know all the factor that make video go viral now :D
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PaddyVu said:
Engagement from the comment is the key here, high CTR is not enough. It's easy from now on, that's all the factors to go viral at this point. They are causing a war in my video also LOL. Your content must be funny/joke enough to get like this Absolutely you dont need external if your content is engaging. That's all from now on, changing title or thumbnail DOESNT affect algorithm but yourself instead, the amount of impression give to everyone is the same after changing, so if your title is trash, they dont click it, view reduces, but impression give still the same. So it's good to change title if you feel CTR is bad.
I will stop posting from now on because i know all the factor that make video go viral now :D
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PaddyVu said:
First of all i'm not good at speaking English so hope u guys can understand what i'm saying :p
I'm just a newbie and also new to this algorithm, however after 1 month of testing, i discovered a lot of thing that can make your video go viral ( OR atleast boosting )
First u have to find popular niche or algorithm wont recongize your video.
Second, always aim for browse feature views, that mean SEO doesnt matter, do NOT try to SEO or make it appear on top search ( This is a waste of time for newbie )
Post your video to a few subreddit that relevant to your content, have atleast 50-100 views from external, after that stop and delete the link. WHY delete? Because organic views are still better than external so it shouldnt be too much, i have 1 video that go viral but at late time because i got too many views from external ( 7-8k ) and organic views only 100 ( CTR at this time is over 10% ) => Algorithm think i fraud. Algorithm will boost a video with 60 organic views plus 100 external and 8% CTR, it will not boost if u have 70 oraganic views with 0 external view and 9% CTR. Ofc with like 200-300 oragnic plus over 10% CTR, algorithm will start boosting instantly but most people cant affort that so make sure to share your video to social media.
Title is your best friend ( thumbnail only matter 30%, i dont know why people say thumbnail matter a lot but for me even i spend 5 hours to create high quality thumbnail, it isnt as good as confuse title), try to make confuse title that people must click on it to satisfy themselves, ofc your video must be relevant to that title, do NOT try to SEO your title, just make confuse title, example " Do u know this thing can kill u? " ; " This is the worst thing in my .... "
Title shouldnt be too long or it will apper as ...
CTR is KING, it has higher priority over high retention. Your CTR must be always above 15% for browse feature ( This can make u have atleast 100k views and above ) ( Mine is 19.2% and sitting at 500k views right now )
6% CTR vs 100% watchtime is worse than 15% CTR vs 50% watch time. Try to aim above 50% watch time, below i dont recommended.
Now for the engagement, do NOT try to make your video perfectly that everyone cant say something funny about your video, u will lose engagement, if u are doing some serious high quality work, try to add some funny moments in it. U can also use your other channels and comment on your own video, make it funny and answerable, people will upvote it and want to react with that comment, this is the key to make your video have high engagement. Limit 1 gmail per comment, 5 gmails per IP, try to watch full video or atleast 90% then add comment so u can trick algorithm and that comment will be legit ( If u go back to your channel and cant see that comment, that mean it's flagged as fraud ) ( for me 3 funny comments is enough for people to enjoy )
Now for the algorithm, it will check your video every hour, when requirement met, it will boost your video for 6 hours equal to your current CTR then drop to 10% of the boosting for 18 hours to test your video, if your video can maintain CTR or even make it higher, algorithm will boost again for another 6 hours and repeat the process.
Video that cant maintain 5% CTR while algorithm boosting will have 3-4k views for entire boost and may DIE permanently unless CTR increase again but this may needs a long journey ( That's why i heard some video may blow up at late time like 6 months after upload )
Video that can maintain over 15% CTR while algorithm boosting will have atleast 100-400k views for the entire boost depend on your retention and put video to test again for another boost.
Pretty much 95% white hat method, only black method is comment on your own video, u can also buy a few reddit upvote ( For me 10 is enough ), crowd effect will do the rest for your content.
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This is a simple video that go viral ( This video isnt short because it's not vertical video ) ( length is 41s )
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can you PM me the link to your youtube?
 
PaddyVu said:
Engagement from the comment is the key here, high CTR is not enough. It's easy from now on, that's all the factors to go viral at this point. They are causing a war in my video also LOL. Your content must be funny/joke enough to get like this Absolutely you dont need external if your content is engaging. That's all from now on, changing title or thumbnail DOESNT affect algorithm but yourself instead, the amount of impression give to everyone is the same after changing, so if your title is trash, they dont click it, view reduces, but impression give still the same. So it's good to change title if you feel CTR is bad.
I will stop posting from now on because i know all the factor that make video go viral now :D
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Did you use any tool to managing yt account for commenting?
 
Ateporos said:
Shorts Algo is similar, but it is just a little bit more complicated to understand.
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Shorts algo is 100 times easier tho... All I had to do was post 4-5 videos a day and one of it gets 2k-10k views (with a 0 subscriber account)

but shorts are just useless because:

1. you can't monetise them

2. followers gained from shorts are like bricks, literally useless

3. watchtime gained from shorts doesn't add for YouTube partner program

If shorts were monetized and watchtime + subscribers were useful, I would be a millionair by now.
 
Ateporos said:
If you were into YouTube channels flipping, you would appreciate shorts. Quickly build channels with shorts and sell them for money.
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Sounds interesting, how much can you charge for let's say a shorts channel with 1,000 legit subscribers ?

Literally my first short video ever uploaded
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and then many more followed
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1,000 subscribers takes me like 2 weeks tops

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