flowsosikk2
Newbie
- Oct 5, 2021
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I want to know too
I discovered how algorithm work
- Thread starter PaddyVu
- Start date
ooh thank you, did you buy bot subs first to get monetized? I am new to blackhat and honestly only know how to use microworkers (you pay them 3 cent to subscribe) but its real people, I guess those would hurt since they go to youtube alot and skip over your video lol
Does anybody know good reliable bot subs that dont drop, or watch time buy from? pm me or share pls
Hinori
Newbie
- Feb 16, 2019
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Hi! I have a few questions if you don't mind~
So I basically have a few big channels, but I'm trying to start over with some other smaller channels from 0, but I'm having a hard time getting them into the algorithm? Back then I could promote a video with external views (community tab) and it'd get into browse features and recommend my channel further right away, but right now, if I promote my video with let's say few thousand views of external, it will never get promoted by youtube itself. I know you said in your thread how just external is bad, but I'm wondering about something else now.
I created a new channel 1 day ago and I uploaded 2 videos: one that was promoted by external views (it reached 10k just from external, no other boost from yt), while the other wasn't promoted at all by external, just suggested views from the first video through the playlist. I noticed that 12 hours after uploading, the video with only suggested views got a browse features boost for like 4-5 hours and then died out. I tried to recreate this again, made another 3 videos, promoted the first with external and then the other 2 with just suggested views, however none of the new videos got any other browse features boost.
Also, I forgot to mention, the new videos that I posted all have good retention as it's fully organic views promoted to my community + they all have high CTR (18-22%).
I've also had this issue with another niche channel few weeks ago. I had a video promoted with youtube ads from the same niche until like 8k views, then I quit that channel. 3 months later I upload a new video and boost it with suggested views only (this time through a panel~ like 1k) and once again, 12 hours later I get a browse features boost that's kinda big (4k~ views/h), which once again dies out after 5~ish hours.
The issue I'm facing is that on both of these channels, ever since getting that first browse features boost on the 2nd video uploaded, I wasn't able to get any other boost through the exact same method. Am I missing something? should I try like you to boost a video with both 70 external views and 100 or 200-300 suggested instead? like a combination of the two instead of just going for suggested like I initially did? (also, is this like an exact number I should follow or you meant I should just kind of balance the external with suggested as a %?)
Also, is there any other way I could contact you somewhere else? I also own 3-4~ big channels, but I'm trying to learn the new small channels algorithm, so it'd be great to have a person to talk about the algorithm with if you didn't mind. My best friend that I usually talk about the algorithm and methods with generally took a break and plays Lost Ark all day, so I have no one to discuss these things with
THE DARK 007
Newbie
- Apr 23, 2020
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its okay this algorithm?
Cypor
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- Mar 13, 2017
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No, it is not good, those "bot" subs will do more harm than good. @PaddyVu it will hurt exactly the browse feature that you are testing as a big booster here in this topic since the 1st thing that youtube does is to show your new video to those 1000 DEAD Subs. And those subs won't react...If you are building an white hat channel then boosting will not help you on such a big scale 1000Sub+4000Hours sine when the approval comes to your channel if the content is 1 video or 2-3 videos most probably it won't get approved.
Buying subs + hours is okay, If you want to fast complete .....one or the other from monetizing and not lose days. let's say you are missing 50-100 subs and you already have 4000 hours, you buy them to complete 1000, or vice-versa.
PaddyVu
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- Nov 7, 2018
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Dead sub cant watch youtube, they are basically bots and do not even use youtube, but new channel need around 200-300 oragnic sub first, i built my channel long ago and got around 300 subs, after the change require 1000, i bought 900 subs from instant-fans and 4k hours and just 2 hours after apply, i got aprroved monetization
those "dead subs" aren't even on youtube. so they generate 0 impressions.
if they were on youtube and the thumbnail was shown to them, and they didn't click, then yes it would be bad for the channel. because they generated impressions for the video and didn't engage.
dead subs have 0 effect. they dont help or harm your channel at all. dead subs are only useful for getting monetized.
THE DARK 007
Newbie
- Apr 23, 2020
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the algorithm has been the same. internal traffic is most important. relying on external traffic is not necessary.
it's either a video that's getting clicked on or isn't.
you'll realize this if you ever make content over 5 minutes.
short videos under 1 minute are easy to get views.
PaddyVu
Regular Member
- Nov 7, 2018
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changed or it boost too soon then die... I dont know... this is something i want to avoid, it boost too soon then die immediately, however CTR is fine..
Hackdbrain
Registered Member
- Aug 4, 2018
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Thanks OP, But I think CTR Can be manipulated
PaddyVu
Regular Member
- Nov 7, 2018
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Cant sadly, even you can at the start, algorithm will yield impresison to random person, if they dont watch, it will hurt your video. It's only matter during the boost, that's the only way to know your video will go viral or not
Hinori
Newbie
- Feb 16, 2019
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The algorithm has always been like that. Your channel basically converted from late views to early views, it happens once you keep on getting promoted by yt (or at least from what I can see, that's what might have happened to you). I also have a channel where once I revive it from the dead, it gets big late views 12hrs later, 24hrs later etc, but if I keep uploading for few days, then I start getting boost in min13 from uploading and the channel will likely stop getting late boosts and rely more on the first 1hour. If I was right and you got the biggest browse boost in the first hour, then you can easily get big views if you change your uploading pattern. If not, then I don't know what to say.
SkeetSkeet34
Regular Member
- Sep 15, 2020
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Facts, they don't help or harm.
THE DARK 007
Newbie
- Apr 23, 2020
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do not tell me you are making video like "all bosses in game, all cutscene" etc ..