I couldn't do it anymore.

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Good on ya man! Slave jobs and alcohol is not the road to a happy life, at least not for me.

The key for me was to not search for nor rely on motivation, but to just be disciplined and have consistency. Do the work, no matter if I felt like or not. Feelings are not of any use.

I wish you all the best and hope you get a full time income from your projects soon!

t2van said:
You gave up a steady job to work on your dream full time because you couldn't find enough time from a 12hr shift. Not being able to find an hour each night to work on your skills, network or get a portfolio brewing is and was just an excuse.
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I don't know exactly what he did at the construction site, but I assume that you have never worked at one. It's easy to say that it's "only an hour" after work if you have never done the work yourself. You only got that "it's just an excuse" from those gurus that you read books from and watch on Youtube.

I used to work at a construction site and it can be very hard on mind and body, plus the travelling. I fully understand that one don't have the time or power to get a side business going if they do 12 hour shifts at a construction site.
 
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Wishing you the best of luck! I'm about to graduate uni and trying to avoid getting sucked into the world of "slave labour" - seeing this time an opportunity to start something online before it's too late!
 
Yes, I worked on one. I work and run a farm now with 4 other ventures as part of the farm. Nothing is given to you, nothing is easy. If you want it you find/make the time. Its no self help crap its a fact.
 
Zbigniew said:
Good on ya man! Slave jobs and alcohol is not the road to a happy life, at least not for me.

The key for me was to not search for nor rely on motivation, but to just be disciplined and have consistency. Do the work, no matter if I felt like or not. Feelings are not of any use.

I wish you all the best and hope you get a full time income from your projects soon!


I don't know exactly what he did at the construction site, but I assume that you have never worked at one. It's easy to say that it's "only an hour" after work if you have never done the work yourself. You only got that "it's just an excuse" from those gurus that you read books from and watch on Youtube.

I used to work at a construction site and it can be very hard on mind and body, plus the travelling. I fully understand that one don't have the time or power to get a side business going if they do 12 hour shifts at a construction site.
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I went to areas that where hurt by floods or hurricanes, and did asbestos abatement, It's really tough work, once you put on a suit, and go into containment. You just work your ass off till break or lunch. Usually 90+ degrees in containment, you can't have air or anything running while working with asbestos. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone. It's overall pretty miserable.

You are right, it's not really finding the time, it's finding the energy. It's an absolutely exhausting profession. Be it hanging drywall, or doing demo swinging a sledgehammer. You get off work physically and a lot of times mentally exhausted.

Thank you for the advice, and words of encouragement. It is appreciated.
 
FPM said:
Wishing you the best of luck! I'm about to graduate uni and trying to avoid getting sucked into the world of "slave labour" - seeing this time an opportunity to start something online before it's too late!
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Good on you, wish I would of had more forward thinking at a young age.
 
se900se said:
Being only (one of a few) photographers/designers in a small town is already a good start!
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You would think that, but it's actually the opposite. Small town midwest. You Shmoe car lot has zero problem having the nephew paint a wooden sign with some weird horrid cartoon character on it, and call that branded. Photography, I do well during wedding season, and senior pictures. But that doesn't cut it for a career. Definitely helps with extra money now and then though!
 
denialmedia said:
I went to areas that where hurt by floods or hurricanes, and did asbestos abatement, It's really tough work, once you put on a suit, and go into containment. You just work your ass off till break or lunch. Usually 90+ degrees in containment, you can't have air or anything running while working with asbestos. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone. It's overall pretty miserable.

You are right, it's not really finding the time, it's finding the energy. It's an absolutely exhausting profession. Be it hanging drywall, or doing demo swinging a sledgehammer. You get off work physically and a lot of times mentally exhausted.

Thank you for the advice, and words of encouragement. It is appreciated.
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I can't even imagine doing that work now days.

When I was younger I worked with destruction of houses and rebuilding them. So much lifting, smashing, running, carrying and asbestos, dirt and dust. No matter which protection we had, you came home coughing and sneezing black stuff. And that was only 8-9 hour shifts.

I had to dive directly into bed or the sofa when I came home, otherweise I would be too tired and hurt to work the next day.

Anyway - it's the past for both of us now. ;)
 
A tip for you. Join as many fb grps that require your skills like photo shooting. That includes grps like amazon fba, dropshipping, fb ads buying gps and etc.

DO NOT SPAM! Ask permission from the grps admin to post, tell them you are offering discount to the members.

Last but not least, you need to have good portfolio of course. Will this work? You bet it works. Speaking from my experience which I did 4 yrs ago and total earning of nearly 140k just on Fiverr :)

Good luck!
 
VinceC said:
A tip for you. Join as many fb grps that require your skills like photo shooting. That includes grps like amazon fba, dropshipping, fb ads buying gps and etc.

DO NOT SPAM! Ask permission from the grps admin permission to post, tell them you are offering discount to the members.

Last but not least, you need to have good portfolio of course. Will this work? You bet it works. Speaking from my experience which I did 4 yrs ago and total earning of nearly 140k just on Fiverr :)

Good luck!
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Awesome advice! I knew I was going to have to go back on facebook. Left like 3 years ago. But, I could start a non personal account for marketing. Just haven't been looking forward too it. I looked at fivver, but upworks seemed more professional? I don't know, I'm sure I'm wrong on this. The smart thing would be to do both.

I will definitely use your advice.

I do have a pretty extensive porfolio, I have been using photoshop since the 90's. I imagine that will shock some of the younger ones on here. lol I just have to narrow it down I think. From all the reading I have done, it seems like niche is the way to go. Once again, I could be way off here. I will just do what I think is the smart move, see how it works, and adjust as needed. (In theory.)
 
Many are shifting to upworks like what you said they are more professional.
Since you are away from fb 3 yrs, do study on the current trend what people want and create something similar to your portfolio that can cater to their needs.
 
VinceC said:
Many are shifting to upworks like what you said they are more professional.
Since you are away from fb 3 yrs, do study on the current trend what people want and create something similar to your portfolio that can cater to their needs.
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I will for sure do that. I kinda like hunting down trends and whatnot. I find it fun. lol
 
Go get a job again while you are working on your business.

A lot of people make the mistake of quitting their job to start their business online, just to realize that internet marketing is not easy money at all. You do often need a lot of money for failure when starting internet marketing, and this is much easier when you have a stable income.

Of course, you could be successful without a stable income, but I have seen this too many times, unfortunately. Best luck
 
Mechy said:
Go get a job again while you are working on your business.

A lot of people make the mistake of quitting their job to start their business online, just to realize that internet marketing is not easy money at all. You do often need a lot of money for failure when starting internet marketing, and this is much easier when you have a stable income.

Of course, you could be successful without a stable income, but I have seen this too many times, unfortunately. Best luck
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I have 3 months of money saved up for bills, and whatnot. Something I learned forever ago. Make sure you have 3 months worth of saving for emergency's or for things like this. But thank you for the advice. Never thought it was going to be easy. I also have sporadic income coming in from other things I do. Don't get me wrong, when I saved money, it was for emergencies, like in case I got hurt at work or something.

3 months may very well not be long enough, I do understand that, and if that time comes, I'm far from thinking I'm above working at a mcdonalds or something to not live poor. I have done this in the past, and boy does it suck!
 
denialmedia said:
Thank you, I see you have been around awhile, I'm curious. How many people would you say come onto a forum like this, and just assume they are going to find like a program with a button they click and they are all of the sudden rich? I have a pretty full life under me, and have yet to meet one "rich" person in my life who didn't work there ass off to get there.
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Honestly? I would say 70% are looking for the magic button, 25% study learn and make a couple of bucks here and there 3% once they made a couple of bucks here and there focus on one of those skills and can have a nice side income that can become a saving parachute or a full time income the other 2% are making a killing...... I was not trying to insult you or be mean, I was just trying to point out making money it is a skill that needs to be practice, good of luck.
 
In one way it's good you took the leap and in the other way you are on your own now and you HAVE to make it work. It seems to me like the photography and design business didn't take off. Maybe it's time to do something else. If I got no amount of passive income coming in I would go to upwork and apply for jobs there and start building your profile. You will be working for almost nothing in the beginning but as your profile builds up you can start to charge more.

There are so many ways of making some money on upwork. I would try social media manager like posting on Pinterest,... Make yourself an expert in a field.

When you get money coming in, you can start working on 'passive' income. Instead of exchanging your time for money you put the time in first and later receive the money.

You get this by giving value to somebody/helping people. Recommended reading is 'rich dad poor dad' it changed my perspective on business and the 'minute manager' too.

Anyway, good luck and keep us updated of your progress.
 
cynic said:
- Find a solid "hardball" cold call script
- Get on the phone and call 300-500 people a day
You'll have orders in less than one week.
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Agreed, albeit quite a bit oversimplified.

BUT...

it’s truly ACTION that will make a (all the) difference. Get started with something. Get a script. Put up a lander and use a free mailchimp account to collect your first 500 or so email. Then market something to them. All the resources and knowledge you need to make it and possibly even make it big are right here on BHW for the taking and mostly FREE! Take Action, Mate!!!

Oh, and if there is someone out there who can anywhere near that many cold calls a day (a human being and in English lol) I’d hire them right away. :)
 
I like this sentence, really is an advice I should follow myself "Because if I'm failing, that means I'm doing something that can fail. If I'm not failing, that means I'm not doing anything."
 
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