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I can not believe this..

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by bob76, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. bob76

    bob76 Regular Member

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    I recently made a new blog for a term that Google keyword tool says has got 3,300,000 global monthly search volume. And i am currently on page 1 6th position for that term and guess what almost no traffic for that keyword is coming in.

    Can anyone tell me WTH is going on here for me has anyone experienced the same

    its a 3 word key phrase.

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  2. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    You probably calculated the search volume incorrectly...
     
  3. Ramsweb

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    hmmm...what do you mean by almost no traffic? If you are getting a few hundred, that is all that you will get sometimes.

    I recently came across an Ezine article that was ranking number 3 for a term that gets 1 Million searches a day and it was getting only 3,000 views a day.
     
  4. bob76

    bob76 Regular Member

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    I did not calculate the traffic I just checked that again and again in Google keyword tool it says (copy pasting it) 3,350,000 Global monthly searches.

    and i got about 10 visits in 24 hours
     
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    Happens all the time.
    Some niches the top 2 or 3 sites dominate 99.999% of the traffic.


    Also results for Google are often LOCALIZED. Much of the traffic could be coming from another continent. Where you are searchinn FROM has an effect on the results you see. IF you are in the US and your site is hosted in the US (or the topic is geographically important - Like "Antiguan Bannanas" or whatever) then you will see a list tailored specifically FOR YOU in your region.

    No 6 for you doesn't mean number 6 for everyone who searched for the term.

    Variables.

    • Where you are searching from
    • Where the server that you are hosted is based
    • Geographical significance of product or service

    Also 6. On some monitors this is "below the fold"
    Are you including the video strip (if there is one) as one of the six, or (if there is one) are you actually 7th?

    Anyway - keep plugging. Get some traffic other ways. SOme will come from 6th, but I've had some in third or fourth before for 250,000 keys that have had less than 50 visits a day from Google (I would never bother with a search term with much more than that - too much competition from established authority sites),

    30 million searches a month is too rich a vein for most of us (1 million a day) This amount of traffic usually means one of two things..it's either;

    • Filled with authority sites - or
    • Filled with spammy sites
    Having said that 6th is a good bust - take heart and push yourself up a little more. It will come. :)


    Scritty
     
  6. flaktrak

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    clear your cache, reset your cookies and try searching again!
     
  7. bob76

    bob76 Regular Member

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    Ok I checked the local volume selected only US and it still returns 2,740,000 searches a month.

    And I went to Google.com instead of the local Google page and I am there at 6th.

    Still dont get it...
     
  8. gorang

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    Bob, that usually happens when it is ranked 1 in your local datacentre, but not across the globe. Usually, Google waits to see if you're trustworthy and have good enough content before it starts updating other datacentres with a similar ranking. Even then, the rankings are never the same and updating other datacentres takes time.

    Also, you're probably looking at the keyword search volume using broad match. That means the Google keyword tool is showing the search volume for all Google queries that contain your keywords in any order with any other words. You should look at it in exact match.
     
  9. bob76

    bob76 Regular Member

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    First One question.
    Even if I go to Google.com instead of my local Google search page, will it show the result from my local data center to me and will show different to some one accessing Google.com from the US.

    Secondly I have checked the exact and phrase match for the term and they are very low as compared to the broad term. But What I knew all this time (which I may be wrong and any one can correct that) was that the exact and phrase searches show the number of searches that people do on google with quotes and with brackets to get highly accurate results for their term and broad search is the acutal search term for that phrase what 90 percent of the people type in and I am 6th for broad term and first for exact and phrase.
     
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    Makes no difference. Google.com. Google.de Google.co.uk
    They will ALL give a geographical spin on the results.

    Where you are matters. (and they know to within a few kilometers exactly where you are - ever wondered why call girl ads on international sites all have girls from your town listed?) Use a proxy in your browser - one hosted overseas - that's the only way you can check (unless you ask someone here to check - that means giving away you URL of course)

    Scritty
     
  11. kunu56

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    is it a seasonal keyword ? a keyword ppl only look for in certine times a year.
    ex: Manchester United Shirts

    check your keyword trend for the last 12 months.

    hope this help
     
  12. pilotguy

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    Also try using the Google Global extension for Chrome or Firefox, or use scroogle . org .
    Indeed, the sixth position is usually below the fold for most monitors, so try to reach the first spot.
     
  13. Lecca

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    What is the exact number of searches? in " " ?
     
  14. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    bob76,

    You have not used the Google Keyword Tool correctly. You have to go by EXACT match. What the gurus or other people have been telling you about "Broad" match is completely incorrect.

    I currently am outranking MTV, BET, and VH1 for competitive hip hop terms. 2 of my keywords combined in the EXACT match get OVER 160,000 searches per month. I'm number 4 for one of them, and 6th for the other, and I only get LESS than 2,000 searches per month from those 2 keywords. 95% of my traffic (3,000 PER DAY) is coming from 2,000+ other keywords that I have used via tags, post headers, etc.

    EXACT simply means that they put the keyword WITHOUT any other variation. So if your going for Cars then the visitor would put in Cars, and not any variation of it like mechanical cars, car sweatshops, cheap cars to buy, etc. (Exact doesn't mean quotes)

    The broad match is any combo for the word, and NOT what you have optimized for. So example: Your targeting Cars and broad match shows tens of millions, and Exact match shows 1 million. This is how it works:

    When someone types "Cars money making up some mechanical tourist's butt" that still gets counted as a search for the term Cars in BROAD match, so you won't show up in the search engines for that keyword. But if someone typed Cars (with no quotes), and you are optimized, then YOU show up. It doesn't mean that the visitor HAS to put the term in quotes. This is a myth.

    Take it from a person who's ranking very good in the search engines for VERY competitive keyterms. I had to build 130,000+ backlinks over the past 14 months to get to my current rankings now!
     
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    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    Also, do remember that OVER 70% of the visitors click on the FIRST position, about 13% click 2nd, 8% 3rd, and 5% for the remainder of first page. Second page only gets 2-3% and its divided by all 10 positions on 2nd page.
     
  16. bob76

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    So this is what I get from your post

    Exact match is actually what the number of searches is for that phrase

    Phrase match is the number of searches that has that phrase in the search with along any other keyword

    Broad match is actually the sum of searches that have any of the word of that phrase.

    A lesson learnt well :(