How will these DMCA-ignored hosts work?

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How will these DMCA-ignored hosts work? I have seen a few hosting providers and contacted them personally and they told me that I do not have to worry about DMCA. Is it a legal practice?
 
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prodon said:
Is it a legal practice?
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that's the thing: these hosters' sites / companies are located in countries where the influence of the superpowers (usually USA and EU, these Western superpowers are usually the legal mongers) is non-existent, or limited at least.

And if they're located in Western nations (UK, USA, mainland EU, Canada, etc) but still are able to run it means that they belong to scumbags that the governments and law enforcing entities are friends with. But such cases are rare, most of the time they are simply located in all sorts of exotic islands or 3rd-4th world countries that nobody has heard of and for which there's no law to punish them, that's why they're able to ignore DMCA notices
 
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tazarbm said:
that's the thing: these hosters' sites / companies are located in countries where the influence of the superpowers (usually USA and EU, these Western superpowers are usually the legal mongers) is non-existent, or limited at least.

And if they're located in Western nations (UK, USA, mainland EU, Canada, etc) but still are able to run they it means that they belong to scumbags that the governments and law enforcing orders are friends with. But such cases are rare, most of the time they are simply located in all sorts of exotic islands or 3rd-4th world countries that nobody has heard of and against which there's no law to punish them, that's why they're able to ignore DMCA notices
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Okay dude, Great share :)
 
Ukraine, Moldova and Netherlands are free to host DMCA (taday/now). But first ask, because some hostings and data centers do not host it.
 
Internal laws of each country and how they handle information privacy, free speach and data usage, they still have internal limitations but any DMCA claim from USA or other countries will use it as toilet paper.
 
DMCA/Copyright is a USA issue. Everywhere else it isn't such a big deal frankly, so the idea is host where USA has no influence in this regard.

Sweden is pretty lax, Netherlands is really lax, Moldova, Ukraine (the servers might be bombed so frankly atm I wouldnt pick them) or Russia - they will not give a second thought if you host copyrighted content, as long as it is not anti-putin/russia. Hell they'll probably take pride in hosting your shit just to stick it to the US.

Asian countries would include: Singapore, Hong Kong (No anti-china/commy stuff allowed though) or any small island nation.
 
Stifmeister said:
DMCA/Copyright is a USA issue. Everywhere else it isn't such a big deal frankly, so the idea is host where USA has no influence in this regard.

Sweden is pretty lax, Netherlands is really lax, Moldova, Ukraine (the servers might be bombed so frankly atm I wouldnt pick them) or Russia - they will not give a second thought if you host copyrighted content, as long as it is not anti-putin/russia. Hell they'll probably take pride in hosting your shit just to stick it to the US.

Asian countries would include: Singapore, Hong Kong (No anti-china/commy stuff allowed though) or any small island nation.
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What are the procedure do I need to follow to work with these countries? I have to register my company out there and start selling?
 
HideHost said:
Ukraine, Moldova and Netherlands are free to host DMCA (taday/now). But first ask, because some hostings and data centers do not host it.
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Yes, I've tried to host my clients sites on following DMCA hosts and it worked fine for may be last 3 years. so far so good.
  • shinjiru (shared and vps in malaysia)
  • the-online.com (shared cpanel and vps in netherlands, EU)
  • nicenic (shared hosting in HK)
  • buyshared (luxembourgh, directadmin)
Note: buyshared/namecrane advertises as DMCA ignored, but will take down your site/content if they receive official complaint via Luxembourgh officers/laws enforemcent/copyright claim department. then similarly with Shinjiru. they'll take down site if they receive claim from Malaysian authorities or via their copyright claim procedure. the-online.com is also dmca-ignored host only in netherlands location, you'll have to choose location after you pay inside their dashboard. Other option is USA and Singapore. Nicenic.net has costliest plans.

You can try European hosts in Netherlands or Luxembourgh or Sweden if your visitors are from U.S, UK, Canada, South America, Africa, Middle East or Europe itself. But choose Hong Kong or Singapore if your site visitors are from Asia.
 
jennykumar said:
Yes, I've tried to host my clients sites on following DMCA hosts and it worked fine for may be last 3 years. so far so good.
  • shinjiru (shared and vps in malaysia)
  • the-online.com (shared cpanel and vps in netherlands, EU)
  • nicenic (shared hosting in HK)
  • buyshared (luxembourgh, directadmin)
Note: buyshared/namecrane advertises as DMCA ignored, but will take down your site/content if they receive official complaint via Luxembourgh officers/laws enforemcent/copyright claim department. then similarly with Shinjiru. they'll take down site if they receive claim from Malaysian authorities or via their copyright claim procedure. the-online.com is also dmca-ignored host only in netherlands location, you'll have to choose location after you pay inside their dashboard. Other option is USA and Singapore. Nicenic.net has costliest plans.

You can try European hosts in Netherlands or Luxembourgh or Sweden if your visitors are from U.S, UK, Canada, South America, Africa, Middle East or Europe itself. But choose Hong Kong or Singapore if your site visitors are from Asia.
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can i use host cotanbo and reverse proxy for ignore DMCA?
 
maciaw said:
can i use host cotanbo and reverse proxy for ignore DMCA?
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You mean your main host where files are hosted would be Contabo and some other DMCA-ignored host would be public facing reverse proxy, right? Yes this will work. But vice-versa would not, as Contabo can't be used as revese-proxy as it is not DMCA ignored.
 
jennykumar said:
You mean your main host where files are hosted would be Contabo and some other DMCA-ignored host would be public facing reverse proxy, right? Yes this will work. But vice-versa would not, as Contabo can't be used as revese-proxy as it is not DMCA ignored.
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Yes, I want to create a cotanbo host for web files and reverse proxy using a cheap vps
is posible?
 
maciaw said:
Yes, I want to create a cotanbo host for web files and reverse proxy using a cheap vps
is posible?
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sure, use contabo for web file, and reverse proxy it from any dmca-ignored vps or cheap vps. Even if you get dmca notice, no content is hosted on your reverse proxy. And even if you host decides to shut it down (due to too many dmca) then you can replace that proxy with other vps. Now a days you can get cheap vps for as low as $15-$20 a year with 1cpu, 1gb ram, 1000 gb monthly bandwidth, and 5-10GB storage. It's more than enough for reverse proxy. Use some lite-weight OS like centos 7 or Almalinux, add, httpd (Apache) and proxy module and you are ready in an hour :)
 
jennykumar said:
sure, use contabo for web file, and reverse proxy it from any dmca-ignored vps or cheap vps. Even if you get dmca notice, no content is hosted on your reverse proxy. And even if you host decides to shut it down (due to too many dmca) then you can replace that proxy with other vps. Now a days you can get cheap vps for as low as $15-$20 a year with 1cpu, 1gb ram, 1000 gb monthly bandwidth, and 5-10GB storage. It's more than enough for reverse proxy. Use some lite-weight OS like centos 7 or Almalinux, add, httpd (Apache) and proxy module and you are ready in an hour :)
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I understood it partially; could you kindly explain how to set up this reverse proxy? And any Recommendation for that kind of Cheap VPS?
 
zotix said:
I understood it partially; could you kindly explain how to set up this reverse proxy? And any Recommendation for that kind of Cheap VPS?
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check my signature where there is a promo of cheap vps.
regarding reverse proxy, you can search github.
You just have to freshly install Almalinux OS, then update it, install httpd (Apache) and mod_proxy modules (they come by default). Then add SSL (for https to https proxying)

inside httpd file you should add following lines:
port 443 if SSL enabled or use port 80 for http. Also remover SSL-related lines if you are using http. At the bottom, replace ip address 1.2.3.4 with you own backend server ip. For each domain and subdomain, you'll have to add this VirtualHost one below the other. You can add hundereds of domains to this httpd file. Also, you'll have to add ssl certificate files in the folders mentioned below. If you are using CentOS, then it is somewhat same. but for other OS like Debian, etc. its bit different. Since I am using Almalinux OS this is how the my httpd file looks.


Code: 
<VirtualHost *:443>
ServerName example.com
Protocols h2 http/1.1
ProxyRequests Off
ProxyPreserveHost on
ProxyReceiveBufferSize 1024
TraceEnable off
SSLEngine on
SSLProxyEngine on
SSLProxyCheckPeerCN off
SSLProxyCheckPeerExpire off
SSLProxyCheckPeerName off
SSLInsecureRenegotiation on
SSLProxyVerify none
SSLVerifyClient none
SSLCertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/example_com.crt
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/certs/example_com.key

<Location "/" >
ProxyPass https://1.2.3.4/
ProxyPassReverse https://1.2.3.4/
# Options +FollowSymLinks -SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
</Location>
ProxyErrorOverride On
</VirtualHost>
 
tazarbm said:
that's the thing: these hosters' sites / companies are located in countries where the influence of the superpowers (usually USA and EU, these Western superpowers are usually the legal mongers) is non-existent, or limited at least.

And if they're located in Western nations (UK, USA, mainland EU, Canada, etc) but still are able to run it means that they belong to scumbags that the governments and law enforcing entities are friends with. But such cases are rare, most of the time they are simply located in all sorts of exotic islands or 3rd-4th world countries that nobody has heard of and for which there's no law to punish them, that's why they're able to ignore DMCA notices
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Fantastic read!
Well, put information.
 
jennykumar said:
sure, use contabo for web file, and reverse proxy it from any dmca-ignored vps or cheap vps. Even if you get dmca notice, no content is hosted on your reverse proxy. And even if you host decides to shut it down (due to too many dmca) then you can replace that proxy with other vps. Now a days you can get cheap vps for as low as $15-$20 a year with 1cpu, 1gb ram, 1000 gb monthly bandwidth, and 5-10GB storage. It's more than enough for reverse proxy. Use some lite-weight OS like centos 7 or Almalinux, add, httpd (Apache) and proxy module and you are ready in an hour :)
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means when I receive an email from cloudflare about dmca, can I just ignore it?
1vps web file + 1vps ignore dmca for reverse proxy and I used a domain from namecheap or should I use an offshore domain too?
 
jennykumar said:
check my signature where there is a promo of cheap vps.
regarding reverse proxy, you can search github.
You just have to freshly install Almalinux OS, then update it, install httpd (Apache) and mod_proxy modules (they come by default). Then add SSL (for https to https proxying)

inside httpd file you should add following lines:
port 443 if SSL enabled or use port 80 for http. Also remover SSL-related lines if you are using http. At the bottom, replace ip address 1.2.3.4 with you own backend server ip. For each domain and subdomain, you'll have to add this VirtualHost one below the other. You can add hundereds of domains to this httpd file. Also, you'll have to add ssl certificate files in the folders mentioned below. If you are using CentOS, then it is somewhat same. but for other OS like Debian, etc. its bit different. Since I am using Almalinux OS this is how the my httpd file looks.
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Should I use Almalinux 9 (non-UEFI) or (UEFI), or 8?
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EDITED: Okay, I tried to install mod_proxy, and didn't work,
Code: 
[root@xxxxx /]# yum install mod_proxy
Last metadata expiration check: 0:16:05 ago on Wed May  1 13:58:01 2024.
No match for argument: mod_proxy
Error: Unable to find a match: mod_proxy

I had to edit sudo nano /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf

Add code end of line:
Code: 
LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so
LoadModule proxy_http_module modules/mod_proxy_http.so

Save the edit file and restart apache httpd, so that's right?
 
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maciaw said:
means when I receive an email from cloudflare about dmca, can I just ignore it?
1vps web file + 1vps ignore dmca for reverse proxy and I used a domain from namecheap or should I use an offshore domain too?
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Anyone know the answer to this?
 
@zotix @Bots-Scrapers @jennykumar could you help me? I tried to setup and doesn't connect you to forum, just default page of almalinux.


Code: 
<VirtualHost *:80>
  ServerName test.domaintest.com
  Protocols h2 http/1.1
  ProxyRequests Off
  ProxyPreserveHost on
  ProxyReceiveBufferSize 1024
  TraceEnable off

<Location "/" >
  ProxyPass https://(NORMAL IP SERVER)/
  ProxyPassReverse https://(NORMAL IP SERVER)/
  # Options +FollowSymLinks -SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
</Location>
  ProxyErrorOverride On
</VirtualHost>

<VirtualHost *:443>
  ServerName test.domaintest.com
  Protocols h2 http/1.1
  ProxyRequests Off
  ProxyPreserveHost on
  ProxyReceiveBufferSize 1024
  TraceEnable off

<Location "/" >
  ProxyPass https://(NORMAL IP SERVER)/
  ProxyPassReverse https://(NORMAL IP SERVER)/
  # Options +FollowSymLinks -SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
</Location>
  ProxyErrorOverride On
</VirtualHost>
 
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