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How to setup an anonymous/untraceable PayPal account

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Adlad, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. Adlad

    Adlad Power Member

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    Okay so a lot of people use PayPal (obviously), and a lot of people have been banned in the past and want to get back in, or want a 2nd account for their "blackhat" activities. Point is I'm gonna try and outline the basics on having a 100% anonymous (or close to it) PayPal account, and none of your activities being traceable. Sounds impossible? It's not. I've used PayPal a lot in the past and I know quite a bit on how their system works. A lot of what I say below is pretty basic stuff, so I apologise if it's no use to some. But it might help a few out, so it's worth it IMHO.

    First thing to understand is that the majority of PayPal's activities are automated. That means they have security algorithms (bots) running 24/7 365. Think about it, PayPal has over 70 million active accounts! There is no way humans could monitor them all. So yeah, this is basic shit, but it's an important point to keep in mind. EVERYTHING you do is being monitored by some bot, not a human. Of course if your account is limited, or someone makes a direct complaint, a human will look into it, but until that point it's automated.

    Second thing to understand is that they literally do monitor EVERYTHING. From basic things to what IP you log in under, to complex stuff like how many seconds you take to do certain tasks. Seriously, if you can think of it, most chances are PayPal have a bot monitoring it. Now I only know a hand full of what they monitor, I'm sure there are 100s of things I have no clue about. The main ones you have to worry about though in my experience are your IP, how much money you pump through your account, and charge backs. If you keep a clean IP, keep money transactions reasonable, and get no charge backs, chances are PayPal will leave you alone.

    The first important step is setting up a clean IP. FORGET proxies. Do not even bother going there. They are totally useless for accounts that you are logging into more than once. The only real solution is a dedicated VPN. This will cost you about $15 a month, and there are a shit load of places to buy them from. Now if you're really security concious, you need to buy the VPN itself anonymously. So find someone who accepts WebMoney. Once you have your VPN take note of the state it's in. This is where your profile information is going to come from. So now simply go to one of the online directories (example switchboard.com) and look for someone in the area your VPN is located. If your VPN is in Miami, FL, go do a search for John Smith in Miami, FL. Simple. Make note of the address info and save this to a file.

    Go make your PayPal account with those details and be sure to enter everything correctly. For email use AOL. It looks pretty legit. Gmail or Yahoo are fine also. PayPal know the majority of online users either have a Yahoo, AOL, or Gmail account, so they don't care too much about that (unless you're applying as a business).

    Once you've verified your email address now comes the important part. We're going to add an anonymous bank account to fully verify the account. How we gonna do that? No not with one of those shitty online wallet systems, we need to go find a prepaid debit card that supports direct deposit. This can be really easy, or really hard, depending on your location. If you're in the US chances are a local store will sell one. If you're outside the US you need to buy one from someone else. Assuming you are indeed within America go to your local store and look for something called an nFinanSe card. These things are awesome for PayPal. Or if you're not bothered about getting a personalised card sent to your address, you can use another one called Mio Card. They work fine too. I'm skipping over quite a few things here, but the basic premise is we don't care what address is registered on the prepaid card because it doesn't matter. PayPal cannot tell. When you withdraw money via ACH the only problem you might have is different names on your PayPal account and prepaid card, but I've found that most times that doesn't matter either.

    Assuming you've purchased an nFinanSe card, first thing to do is activate it by calling their automated number and setting an ATM PIN. The minimum load for this card is $50, so you want to get as much of your investment back as possible. You should have no problem going straight to an ATM and withdrawing $40. So you total investment (out of pocket money) will be around 10 bucks.

    Once you've done that you need to register the card for direct deposit. nFinanSe needs your SSN which you enter online. It's instant activation, so no delay or speaking to a human. This is where the anonymous point kicks in again. If you want to break the law (I am in no way recommending you do), then finding SSN info online can be done for a couple of bucks. If not and you still want to stay anonymous, then you could ask the permission of a friend or family member. Remember, this information is never seen by PayPal, so it has no real tie to your account.

    Either way, once you've registered your card you will be given a unique account number and routing code. Go back to PayPal, enter this info, and they will send you 2 security deposits. In my experience this usually takes 1 or 2 working days. Once you have those codes (they will show on your online nFinanSe statement), you enter them into PayPal and BOOM, fully verified account. Now if you want you can also enter a credit/debit card and do a similar sort of thing, but it's not necessary. If you do enter a credit/debit card make sure it's not one of the mass used ones. PayPal check BINs (bank identification numbers) a lot, and using a simon.com gift card is gonna through up a red flag on their system.

    That's pretty much it. 1 anonymous/untraceable PayPal account (or close to it depending on how "blackhat" you wanna go). Also small point about ATM withdrawals, you can research online the different makes and models of ATM machines. Some have cameras, others do not. Again if you want to be truly 100% anonymous wear some glasses when you withdraw the money, or pay some kid to do it.

    If PayPal ever do limit your account, and chances are they will, then you need ID and a utility bill ready for the profile info you signed up with. One word. Photoshop. Again, not gonna go into details but there are plenty of sources online to get this done, or you can do it yourself. The people who check this at PayPal probably don't know WTF they're doing. I bet they take a quick 3 second clance at your image attachments and pass it along.

    Hope this thread helped. If not then that's cool. Yes a lot of it is very basic stuff, but I see some really stupid advice being given to people asking PayPal questions, so what I'm saying really isn't that bad.

    Also I am in no way suggesting you use PayPal for illegal activities. I am just showing a way to use their services anonymously.

    Peace.
     
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  2. Adlad

    Adlad Power Member

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    Blimey! Wouldn't like to see what you consider a "long" forum guide.

    You're welcome though
     
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  3. Adlad

    Adlad Power Member

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    Nah it's cool, I didn't take it bad. It's just that post took me quite a while to type out
     
  4. Saberu

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    Damn I can't tell you how useful this is to me, because if I did I would be giving away my secrets. But man, I can't thank you enough if this works.

    And no I'm not going to be commiting any fraud/ doing anything illegal, I have legal methods which just happen to need Paypal accounts :p
     
  5. Adlad

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    I accept donations in any currency via PayPal.

    LOL just kidding
     
  6. Goldstream

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    does it work with you?
     
  7. Adlad

    Adlad Power Member

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    Does what work with me? The method I posted? Well yes it works, it all depends how well you manage your account. Personally I have no need for anonymous PayPal accounts any more though
     
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    excellent "in your face", no fluff information...crystal clear in your presentation style...thanks
    mike
     
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    So I'm not the only one who writes too much per post. Where have you been all my life? :) great guide you've got there! Much appreciated, I've got something for you.
     
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    That's a great well written tut, pp is a bear to get around. thx
     
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  11. madblacker

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    this isn't really all that useful since it involves lying on for the ss number... the key is finding a truly anonymous debit card where you don't have to give this info, I've seen some offered online but they charge a lot of money upfront and seem kind of sketchy, am wondering if anyone knows of legit ones in other countries that can easily be signed up for by a us based person.
     
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    Will this work for using epass as well?
     
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    Thanks for the guide. I bet some member will leech it out to DP soon.
     
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  14. darkface

    darkface Senior Member

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    I wounder if your paypal account is pretty much untraceable and you get payed by your cpa companies by paypal. Will you actually need to pay taxes? You guys get what I mean? I am not planing on tax fraud or anything as its too dangerous of a game for me but it still would be intresting to know whether its possible like this.
     
  15. Adlad

    Adlad Power Member

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    Most people don't even know you can use debit cards as bank accounts, so for them this information is pretty useful. And I only touched the surface in regards to this part. There are debit cards out there that don't require a SSN. There are sellers that will "handle" that for you as well. Also bear in mind that PayPal never sees what details you register on your card, so that profile is never really tied to your PayPal account.

    As far as I know cards from other countries are useless for verifying US PayPal accounts. You need something with a US bank account.
     
  16. Adlad

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    All CPA companies require you to complete a W-8 form. So unless you've signed up to them with fake info, I don't see how this would help much. Plus tax fraud in the US is a BAD idea.

    Bear in mind too that you're probably talking $xx,xxx or more per month to make it worth while. In that case your PayPal account will almost certainly get limited (even if all the funds are legit). So be prepared with your photoshopped ID and utility bill.

    In theory, yes, this would work for tax evasion. In reality there are probably far better methods
     
  17. darkface

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    What about a paypal debit card to directly access the money from your paypal account without transfering it at all? Here in Australia you have to provide ID when you buy a prepaid debit card but that rly is not too much of a problem. You see them thrown out quite a lot because ppl have used up their money on them so you could just grab it and add money onto it again if you rly are desperate (or just fake a student id which isn't too hard either)

    Edit: Sry didn't see your respond to my question when I wrote this. All companies require a W8 tax form yes, but if you are not a US citizen that doesn't matter for taxation purposes as far as I understand the whole matter. My residency is in Germany (even though I live in australia) and its not a smart idea to do tax fraud there either I just woudnered.
     
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  18. lucius

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    thanks for the guide, but it had limited use for me, as most of your strategy is based around stuff that can only be acquired if you live in the USA. Do you have any work arounds in mind, if I am not US based.
     
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    No on the PayPal debit card because PayPal will need to send that to an address. And then the whole anonymous thing goes out the window.

    You still need to submit tax forms if you are an international client of the CPA companies, it's just a different one. But yes, it's more "your responsibility" if you are outside the US.
     
  20. Adlad

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    Most of what I said can be done from any where in the World. The only part is the card bit, and there are quite a few sellers online offering this service. You just gotta dig them out.