How to Make 6 Figures Online - A Post You'll Need

-Ali- · Feb 24, 2020

splishsplash said:
pm me your site and I'll tell you why it failed.

Thank you , pm sent .

Market Beast · Feb 25, 2020

Then there's the scenario of when you're running PPC campaigns that you have tweaked and tried to improve for so long but just keep burning and burning money with no profitability (or end to the loss) in sight, and no matter what you try, no paid traffic method for the niche/business is working for you. Do you stick with that forever or how much loss do you take before you say "Ok screw this, I'm going to slow down and focus on something different/SEO for a bit."?

Realistically it can be more complicated than it was put here and it's important to use common sense, give everything its due diligence, switch something up if there's not traction with it, go with what does work. Good motivational post though.

Chicilikit · Feb 25, 2020

Great post, something I can totally agree with after 14 years in this business. Problem is that it is super hard to stay focused on something that does not make any money, especially if you need to pay rent etc and you need the money fast.

cindyrose888 · Feb 26, 2020

186 Likes....incredible within a short period of time.

Otman Novovic · Feb 26, 2020

I love your posts so much <3

Deleted member 219055 · Feb 26, 2020

Amazing post. That's the kind of mindset you need if you wanna become next bill gates.

Gial · Feb 26, 2020

This has been ME for 1 year and a half

I tried instagram,affiliate marketing,becoming a coach,reselling,E-commerce and now i think i found my thing:I have officially started my online marketing agency serving local businesses

Problemi is,i still feel that i need something new that gives me some excitement,something to switch my attention sometimes from the agency that can let me be more creative

In these days i am looking for something new to learn,something that i can do as a side hustle while i am building my agency

Even just managing a instagram,tiktok or youtube page about marketing would be perfect,after i bit that i do only ONE thing i feel the monotony,and i hate that

Let's see,i gave myself 2 days to choose

GoldSmile · Mar 3, 2020

This is the same thing I read on the one thing book.

However, I just gave 3 months or so of testing on "YT+Game hacks". From the old exchange views to SMM Panels. Did not get results, so i dropped it. Surely will not spend all my money tryin' to make it work.

I really wanted to make it work. I like the game. But with the views out of the scene, I am out of that game. Meanwhile, my competition is enjoying high rankings...

I don't want to give up on the niche. So i figure it might be a better idea to target the same niche but from a different source. Does this still count as the "one thing"?

Now after reading this contradictory information with good valid points. I am not sure whether i should seek something new to do(currently doing that), or stick to my idea.

ger81948 · Mar 3, 2020

I can completely relate to this. It's probably a gene that many of us have that can't settle into one area of IM. I think it's partly the rush of finding something new that will be absolutely "perfect for me".

I'm a musician and a friend of mine decided he wanted to play drums. He practiced at home for 5 to 6 hours a day. I'd see him in his house sweating during the summer heat and wet from head to toe while pounding on those drums. He wasn't a natural talent but he had something even more important. He had the ability to be one pointed in his focus and not scattered. He's now a really good drummer that is playing very high paying gigs and doing studio work.

There is no doubt that the strategy is less important than being able to almost blindly stick with whatever it is you've decided to put your energy into.

Selo53 · Mar 4, 2020

Very good contribution. I've been working on my app for a year. The app is already online, but I'm not getting any traffic. In the meantime I have invested 4000 € and currently have very few members. I don't want to give up the project, but if it goes on like this, I don't know what to do. There are costs every month and if you have invested a lot of time and money in a project that gives you nothing in return, the motivaton can drop quickly. I hope there will be a turnaround soon, otherwise I will actually have to quit the project

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Wooten · Mar 10, 2020

splishsplash said:
Hey everyone,

I just felt a bit of random inspiration, as I often do before I write posts.

I've been in business for a long time, and I've had a lot of ups and downs.

Because of that experience I've really come away with an incredibly solid understanding of exactly what you need to succeed in online business, or any business for that matter.

If you follow this mindset and these instructions, then you absolutely will succeed, no matter what you've tried, how many times you've failed or how dismayed you are.

Now.. This is why almost everyone fails. This rule is almost absolute. In all my years, with all the people I've talked to, all the interviews I've watched, all the biography's I've read, I cannot think of 1 single example of someone who's succeeded who has not done this.

Massive, relentless energy put into ONE single focus for a long period of time.

That's it.

NO ONE does this. Not even close.

People try something for 2 weeks, then give up and move onto the next shiny thing.

Others try something for 3 months, then give up. Yeah, still not enough.

Most think you can make money by running some process like it's a job. Set up this, do this, do that, and boom you're making money. It doesn't work like that.

You can make $100k/year, in pretty much ANYTHING. Making videos, podcasts, creating training products, dropshipping, creating a product, re-selling a product, affiliate marketing in any niche, consulting, selling little pink hairbands.

The way to succeed is to pick ONE thing, and focus hard on it for a full year of your life. Put all your energy into it and don't make your goal to make money, make your goal to be the best at this thing. The money will follow that. Minimum $100k/year if you've picked an absolutely dire business and you're massively lacking in skills/experience.

It's near impossible to fail if you do this.

Let's use an example of how most people approach something vs the correct way.

You decide you're going to make youtube videos about games, build an email list and sell something to those people via email and you do nothing but that for a year, you'll master it.

You wake up at 8am, yawn, and decide to sleep in.. There's no hurry, you can start after lunch.

zzzzz

You get up at midday and crawl over to the computer.

You lookup some affiliate offer for gaming. Good, job done.

Next, you sign up for some email marketing software with a free plan that allows affiliate offers.

Then, you make some half hearted video about gaming and upload it.

You're now SUPER excited, expecting to be well on your way making $1k/day automated money. The dream is almost your!

Next, you stick up your opt in page.

A few days later, you've got like 5 opt-ins for your email list. You email your offer anyway and no one bites.

Bah, screw this you say, and back you go to blackhatworld to find another juicy method.

Now repeat this, for multiple methods, for years, and you have your classic "Help! I've tried everything and nothing works" person.

Maybe you're not as bad as that, but most people aren't that far off.

Now, below is the mindset of the guys you see who have made millions of dollars online.

They make a plan. They research everyone else doing gaming videos. They take notes to see what's working and what people like.

They then create a few really good videos. Putting a lot of effort into them. Let's see what happens.

They're not even bothering with monetization yet. The first thing is to get good at the videos.

A couple of weeks just releasing videos, testing the waters..

Ok, not much traction. What do I need to improve here?

They start looking at more competitors and making tweaks to their own videos and getting better at editing..

3-4 weeks in, and they're starting to get some decent views, some people are commenting, things are moving in the right direction. Let's keep improving on that.

Let's work on getting more subscribers, more feedback, more interaction. Let's test some shit.

A whole month can just be spent getting good at creating the videos and getting some views into them.

Next they look into building a list. No selling yet. Let's just work on building a list and trying different schedules for mailing useful stuff.

Maybe I'll get really creative here and go out on the street and hand out flyers for my youtube channel and get people to check it out. Why not. Nothing to lose.

We're now 3 months in and they've got a decent little channel, a few hundred people on their email list that are regularly opening their emails and things are growing.

Now let's look into monetizing..

And on and on.

What's the result?

2-3 years later that's the guy with 100k subscribers, his own product, a big email list and is making $50k+ per month and now has vast experience in youtube, video creation, list building, email marketing, funnel building, monetization, product creation, product launches, upsells, downsells and more.

The first guy is still on bhw moaning about how nothing works and the world is full of fake-gurus.

If you cannot take that approach to your business, you're not going to succeed.

It was indeed a very interesting post as well as your replies throughout the thread.

While I agree with most I do, however have some skepticism being inexperienced with online business, so I hope you'd be able to clarify some things and share your thoughts

Here's a scenario.

Let's say I want to delve into IM business but have no clear understanding of it. I want to build something that is sustainable long-term and could potentially become an asset that could be sold in the future. I'm particularly interested in building a website for affiliate marketing, perhaps clickbank? Now here's the tricky and confusing part.

I'm not sure about the niche and how broad/specific should it be considering that "gurus' shove different opinions of what works. Go too broad and you won't be able to compete, go too specific and you'll end up with couple of sales a month at best. But it seems as though going more specific is safer bet, but has less potential? I mean, there's a limitation to what you can write about let's say shin splints, before you start being repetitive.

Not to mention everyone's saying that SEO is impossible these days unless you have shit ton of money or going purely blackhat.

I have no skills for online business nor do I consider myself having any talent and I don't have cash to invest, but I can dedicate around 30-40 hours a week next to my full-time job and somewhat okayish grasp of English ( as it's not my native language ), so I presume that writing is something that can be learned, right? I'm not fond of making videos neither speaking on them, so I don't even consider youtube.

I think that my outlined scenario is rather common ( as seen in many many journey threads ) so the part where you mention 100k/year doing anything but just sticking with it for a year or too sounds too good to be true ( there's that skepticism ).

Question is, do you sincerely think that given the scenario and all things considered, one would be able to learn things from nothing ( writing, marketing, SEO etc ) and build it from absolute scratch ( well apart from domain, hosting obviously ) and build a 100k/year worth of a website in a year ?

If so, how would you approach it ? Apart from simply showing up and working everyday, what would your advice would be for a newbie?

I know it's a common question, yet I see so many different opinions and suggestions thrown around ( that sometimes tend to be just harmful ) and honestly, that information overload just puts me off from starting at all. But you seem to have strong conviction regarding the matter and experience to back it, so I would be very interested in your thoughts.

Thank you in advance

splishsplash · Mar 10, 2020

Wooten said:
It was indeed a very interesting post as well as your replies throughout the thread.

While I agree with most I do, however have some skepticism being inexperienced with online business, so I hope you'd be able to clarify some things and share your thoughts

Here's a scenario.

Let's say I want to delve into IM business but have no clear understanding of it. I want to build something that is sustainable long-term and could potentially become an asset that could be sold in the future. I'm particularly interested in building a website for affiliate marketing, perhaps clickbank? Now here's the tricky and confusing part.

I'm not sure about the niche and how broad/specific should it be considering that "gurus' shove different opinions of what works. Go too broad and you won't be able to compete, go too specific and you'll end up with couple of sales a month at best. But it seems as though going more specific is safer bet, but has less potential? I mean, there's a limitation to what you can write about let's say shin splints, before you start being repetitive.

You have 16-18 hours per day to work, 7 days a week(Assuming you have your basic bills covered). Imagine you spent that time for the next 3 months doing something. It would answer all your own questions.

Your fear is that you will waste time on something that won't work, but each hour is ticking. You'll never get those hours back. So you can be paralysed into non-action and waste those hours, or you can just spend time working.

It doesn't matter what you work on, if you actually work those hours you'll learn. I've never seen anyone work 18 hours a day, 6-7 days a week for 1-2 years and not come out successful. Never.

None of those questions you are asking yourself are useful just now, neither is trying to build a sustainable asset. You're essentially like a novice painter who rather than painting is asking how he can create a world-class masterpiece that will go down in history.

Wooten said:
Not to mention everyone's saying that SEO is impossible these days unless you have shit ton of money or going purely blackhat.

Yes, this is true. Anything under $1k per month is pointless. $500/mo if you're going to write your own content, but ideally $1k/mo AND you write your own content. Ideally $5k/mo is better for SEO.

Wooten said:
I have no skills for online business nor do I consider myself having any talent and I don't have cash to invest, but I can dedicate around 30-40 hours a week next to my full-time job and somewhat okayish grasp of English ( as it's not my native language ), so I presume that writing is something that can be learned, right? I'm not fond of making videos neither speaking on them, so I don't even consider youtube.

You're going to struggle, then. 30-40 hours a week is not a lot. With cash and experience 30-40 hours a week is ok, but with those things you'd be working 60-80+

Wooten said:
I think that my outlined scenario is rather common ( as seen in many many journey threads ) so the part where you mention 100k/year doing anything but just sticking with it for a year or too sounds too good to be true ( there's that skepticism ).

Question is, do you sincerely think that given the scenario and all things considered, one would be able to learn things from nothing ( writing, marketing, SEO etc ) and build it from absolute scratch ( well apart from domain, hosting obviously ) and build a 100k/year worth of a website in a year ?

If so, how would you approach it ? Apart from simply showing up and working everyday, what would your advice would be for a newbie?

I know it's a common question, yet I see so many different opinions and suggestions thrown around ( that sometimes tend to be just harmful ) and honestly, that information overload just puts me off from starting at all. But you seem to have strong conviction regarding the matter and experience to back it, so I would be very interested in your thoughts.

Thank you in advance

$100k/year is absolute peanuts. There are absolute fortunes to be made. But most people won't ever be able to make them because they have very limited mindsets, and your mindset is ultimately the most important factor.

I didn't say any of it was easy. It's hard, but you don't need any special skills to succeed, or any inherent talents.

You probably won't be able to build a $100k site in a year. Nowhere did I say you just have to work for a year to earn $100k/year. I said, anyone, if they focus, will be able to reach $100k in pretty much anything. It might take you 5 years, but what's the alternative? Lurk on bhw for 5 years never making a commitment and still be posting 5, 6, 10 years from now.

Here you go https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/need-help-making-money-online-ive-tried-all.1206243/

This is the hypothetical guy I was talking about in this post. They are real. This guy has not been working 60+ hours a week since 2015. I'd be surprised if he's even achieving 5% of what he could in a typical week.

The kind of guys who succeed don't generally even come on threads like this asking for help. They just have an inbuilt drive to succeed and nothing gets in their way.

Business is painful. Very painful. Most can't handle it. You have to sacrifice a LOT for it. Yes, there are some cases of people who succeed working 20 hours a week while partying, but those are rare.

It doesn't really matter that much what you pick, if you don't have the emotional toughness to stick it and maintain a high output for long periods. Years. Then you won't succeed. There is no easy money.

You have to really ask yourself if you're going to make the sacrifices required to succeed, and if you are, start now. Just pick something that you can do for 30-40 hours a week for the next year or more.

Deleted member 1313244 · Mar 10, 2020

splishsplash said:
Yes, this is true. Anything under $1k per month is pointless. $500/mo if you're going to write your own content, but ideally $1k/mo AND you write your own content. Ideally $5k/mo is better for SEO.

Tom, could you give me a concise guide on how to find these targets?

Wooten · Mar 10, 2020

splishsplash said:
You have 16-18 hours per day to work, 7 days a week(Assuming you have your basic bills covered). Imagine you spent that time for the next 3 months doing something. It would answer all your own questions.

Your fear is that you will waste time on something that won't work, but each hour is ticking. You'll never get those hours back. So you can be paralysed into non-action and waste those hours, or you can just spend time working.

It doesn't matter what you work on, if you actually work those hours you'll learn. I've never seen anyone work 18 hours a day, 6-7 days a week for 1-2 years and not come out successful. Never.

None of those questions you are asking yourself are useful just now, neither is trying to build a sustainable asset. You're essentially like a novice painter who rather than painting is asking how he can create a world-class masterpiece that will go down in history.

Yes, this is true. Anything under $1k per month is pointless. $500/mo if you're going to write your own content, but ideally $1k/mo AND you write your own content. Ideally $5k/mo is better for SEO.

You're going to struggle, then. 30-40 hours a week is not a lot. With cash and experience 30-40 hours a week is ok, but with those things you'd be working 60-80+

$100k/year is absolute peanuts. There are absolute fortunes to be made. But most people won't ever be able to make them because they have very limited mindsets, and your mindset is ultimately the most important factor.

I didn't say any of it was easy. It's hard, but you don't need any special skills to succeed, or any inherent talents.

You probably won't be able to build a $100k site in a year. Nowhere did I say you just have to work for a year to earn $100k/year. I said, anyone, if they focus, will be able to reach $100k in pretty much anything. It might take you 5 years, but what's the alternative? Lurk on bhw for 5 years never making a commitment and still be posting 5, 6, 10 years from now.

Here you go https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/need-help-making-money-online-ive-tried-all.1206243/

This is the hypothetical guy I was talking about in this post. They are real. This guy has not been working 60+ hours a week since 2015. I'd be surprised if he's even achieving 5% of what he could in a typical week.

The kind of guys who succeed don't generally even come on threads like this asking for help. They just have an inbuilt drive to succeed and nothing gets in their way.

Business is painful. Very painful. Most can't handle it. You have to sacrifice a LOT for it. Yes, there are some cases of people who succeed working 20 hours a week while partying, but those are rare.

It doesn't really matter that much what you pick, if you don't have the emotional toughness to stick it and maintain a high output for long periods. Years. Then you won't succeed. There is no easy money.

You have to really ask yourself if you're going to make the sacrifices required to succeed, and if you are, start now. Just pick something that you can do for 30-40 hours a week for the next year or more.

Thank you for that prompt reply. This does give some perspective.

Though one thing is unclear - if you say that SEO without money is pointless, does that mean creating a website without spending money on SEO ( a.k.a. doing it manually ) is ultimately pointless?

splishsplash · Mar 10, 2020

Wooten said:
Thank you for that prompt reply. This does give some perspective.

Though one thing is unclear - if you say that SEO without money is pointless, does that mean creating a website without spending money on SEO ( a.k.a. doing it manually ) is ultimately pointless?

It's not completely pointless, but it's definitely one of the harder routes to success in 2020. SEO is hard enough these days even with money, especially post nov/dec/jan/feb updates of recent.

You want a business where you can directly impact the bottom line. Something where you can pick up the phone and make calls. Build facebook groups to generate leads. Visit businesses, and eventually run some fb ads for more lead generation(very easy for your own business, especially if you run a funnel with the goal to schedule calls with leads)

You need to think like a real entrepreneur.

99.99% of here aren't really entrepreneurs/business owners. They are creating jobs for themselves. Even the most successful are just creating jobs.

A real entrepreneur doesn't really have any innate skills. Not management and not technical. What they need to bring to the table is 1) Energy/Excitement and 2) Fearlessness

What that means is, you can actually do ANYTHING you want.

There already exists :-

1) Executive level guys/Management
2) Technical guys
3) Sources of funding

You just need to bring the 3 together.

At the very simplest level, if you want to leave 1 and 3 out, you just create a business, line up contractors to fulfill the work(Top guys, not upwork cheapies) and you find the clients.

There are endless technically skilled people out there that have no idea how to find clients or run a business. Remember that skill/talent/experience means jack shit. Your ability to communicate and sell is what determines success, and very few people are strong in those areas. You might not be, but if you're determined and fearless then that's good enough, since you'll get better with each error.

Pick something rare. Top of my head, conversion rate optimization. Study up on the basics. (Ie, no more than 1 day study).

Then go out and find guys who are really good at it. Contractors, not companies. Talk to them. Don't tell them you're just some newbie with no money starting up. You're a business man starting a new venture. Ooze confidence.

Find out what they can do, how much they charge and what they need for a job.

Then go get clients.

Fuck up a few times and then try more. The first few times you'll make mistakes, but after multiple meetings with leads(in person or on the phone), and speaking with several contractors you'll know what to ask and what to expect.

Keep doing that, and you'll make money. You can't really fail with that. If you spend 40 hours a week for a year doing that you'll learn how it all works.

Mark up what your contractors charge by 50%, so if a job is going to cost $10k, you'll charge $15k.

You can mark up more, but it depends on the industry. I don't know what CRO guys charge. I just know it's not that common of a field, which is why I suggest it. You want something more rare that'll catch people's attention. Trying to sell SEO is hard. Competition is too fierce.

But you can mark up between 50% and 100% generally. Again, you'll learn this. If you're a fucking boss, then in 6 months time you can send me a message telling me how the CRO industry works, how to price up jobs and what contractors typically charge. There you go. If you want to succeed, close bhw, don't bother reading any more threads/methods and start your CRO agency. I'd love to hear your updates if you actually do it.

ChesterF said:
Tom, could you give me a concise guide on how to find these targets?

I'm not sure what you mean by a guide on these targets.

Do you mean with these figures what would I spend the money on? If so, yeah, I can give you a breakdown.

onlinemarketer12 · Mar 10, 2020

That I how much important focus is. Instead of jumping from one method to another, one should stick to one method and make it work.

Deleted member 1313244 · Mar 10, 2020

splishsplash said:
I'm not sure what you mean by a guide on these targets.

Do you mean with these figures what would I spend the money on? If so, yeah, I can give you a breakdown.

Yes please, bossman.

splishsplash · Mar 10, 2020

ChesterF said:
Tom, could you give me a concise guide on how to find these targets?

ChesterF said:
Yes please, bossman.

$1k/mo

If you're doing your own content(which I recommend, even at $1k/mo) then I'd do.

month 1: Save the money. Content only.
month 2: Some manual comments(misc/name anchors), some directory listings/business profiles(brand), some web 2's(brand pages, brand anchors). Save the money.
month 3: Press release. https://www.newswire.com/pricing - Learn how to do a good press release. Make it something potentially good so it'll get more exposure. Use nofollow. You'll end up with a few do-follows from it too, but nofollow is safer for press releases. Depending on how good you are, and how newsworthy your story is you can choose a package.
month 4: 10 guest posts. If you've gone with the $500 press release you'll have $3500 now. Go for guest posts between $50 and $150, so let's say this costs you $1k in total.
month 5: Build 5 pbn links. You've got $3500 now. Get 5x$500 domains. $100 each on content. You can do the setup/design yourself. It's not hard. That leaves you $500
month 6: $1500 now. Build 2-3 pbns every month from here-on. Domains between $150 and $500. Aim for stronger ones.

Keep building pbns until you have 30 of them. At that stage switch to guest posts. Keep going, keep writing. This will work and make money.

If it's $500/mo, then do the math. You can see how it'll make it harder, but still do-able. Anything less than $500/mo, and you really can't do much.

ger81948 · Mar 10, 2020

Wooten said:
Thank you for that prompt reply. This does give some perspective.

Though one thing is unclear - if you say that SEO without money is pointless, does that mean creating a website without spending money on SEO ( a.k.a. doing it manually ) is ultimately pointless?

I noticed that you said English isn't your first language but you write quite well. I'm a writer and I can see that your English is better than some of my fellow Americans. Have you considered writing? There are many ways to make money writing. You don't have to write long books. You can write short ebooks and self publish them. If you're interested, let me know and I'll be happy to give you some more specific ideas.

Wooten · Mar 10, 2020

ger81948 said:
I noticed that you said English isn't your first language but you write quite well. I'm a writer and I can see that your English is better than some of my fellow Americans. Have you considered writing? There are many ways to make money writing. You don't have to write long books. You can write short ebooks and self publish them. If you're interested, let me know and I'll be happy to give you some more specific ideas.

Well, I appreciate the compliment.

To be honest, I don't think I'm cut out to be a writer really. I mean, it's one thing to write a forum post with specifics in mind, and a whole different thing to write articles let alone ebooks. I don't think I have the creative capacity to write content that is engaging. I mean, I look at content that BTB or Sherb provides and the thought of writing for a living escapes real quick

What about you? Do you write articles, books, anything? How is it going and are you able to make a living out of it? Very curious

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