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How to do FREELANCING

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by eyashwant, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. eyashwant

    eyashwant Power Member

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    I am starting as a FreeLancer in Web design. But my worry is that I dont have any rated profile. It is a fresh one .And there are 1000s of them already. SO how can I get some job. Is there any guide or black hat guide for that or how can I do it. Please help me out to make my life better...
     
  2. the_punisher

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    your best bet is to start at odesk.com

    fill up your bio.. have a portfolio and in the beginning keep your rates lower than your competitors
     
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    eyashwant Power Member

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    so no other go or guide to black hatting GAF?
     
  5. wishhar

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    Hello
    If U want to work as a freelancer then U have to work hard and prove ya self by ya work no shortcuts .make a start somewhere and work hard on it ,if u r a real hardworker and know ya work better then success will be your's.All the Best.

    Keep Smiling
     
  6. eyashwant

    eyashwant Power Member

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    ok...let me start off immediately now...i am really worried...
     
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    xopacuo Registered Member

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    try 99 designs [dot] com if you are familiar with logo design, there very good works there and it is excellent for some training :)
     
  8. wiseguy

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    Sign up and provide your services here:
    - 99designs.com
    - rentacoder.com
    - odesk.com
    - guru.com
    - scriptlance.com
    - elance.com

    And other such sites.

    More info:

    Elance University:
    Code:
    http://www.elance.com/p/elanceuniversity/provider/index.html
    oDesk Provider Learning Center:
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    http://www.odesk.com/help/help/learning-center/learning_center_providers
    Other stuff I found searching Google for 1 minute:

    Code:
    http://www.interspire.com/content/blogs/444/How-to-Win-Any-Job-on-eLance-oDesk-or-Gurucom.html
    Code:
    http://freelanceswitch.com/finding/how-to-win-any-job-on-elance-odesk-or-gurucom/
    Good luck!
     
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  9. deelow

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    I started off full time freelancing as web designer last year - my best suggestions from what I have found are:

    Like the suggestions above - enter design competitions etc , if you dont get picked - you at least can start building up your portfolio.

    Try offering your service free to one user on some of the forums, get good feed back - and work will start to come in, or that person will most likely come back to you with more work - if u kept them happy with your free web site :)

    Build a kick as portfolio site, showing of all you skills.

    Ask some of your friends online if they need a website, build it for free - or for the price of a coffee or something - stick your "Web Design By" link in the footer - and see if you can gain leads - a lot of clients don't like having web design links added to there sites - which now I have a steady flow of client work - I offer a small 5% discount to allow me to leave my design link in my work - all advertising is good advertising as far as I'm concerned with web design :)

    And to sum up - there is no quick route really ( as already mentioned before) it took me 2 years working in my spare time ( out side of my full time job ) till i was able to dive in full time as a freelancer.

    So stick at it, and best of all with ever design you do you will get better and better :)
     
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    If anything, be ready to be paid jack didly squat.

    I dont know with web design, but as a desktop application developer, i am constantly being undercut by people. And it doesnt matter about my past experience or how much of a better job i can do. Some people just want the cheapest route and as long as it works it works.

    Well atleast thats my experience on scriptlance or getafreelancer.
     
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    Yeah me too I gave up with GAF and SL - people where bidding on websites for $30 that I would have spent a week designing and coding and charged like £500 for lol.

    so I gave up with that route pretty fast. What I did find quite useful was finding clients that wanted on going work - Once winning them sort of contracts where they would send me say £100's worth of work a week on a reg basis - I just found more clients like that so soon adds up to a good steady income, but then there is a down side to that too - you stop looking for fresh new work and then your clients run out of work to give you. lol

    Oh the joys of being a web designer :)
     
  12. eyashwant

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    So it is a time consuming one. I have some projects running and it is difficult for me to concentrate on this too. But I will try. Oh it i takes years to establish. But as deelow said, if some one bids for 30$ where I am getting 600$ here, then what should I do.
    Should I reduce my quality and give them or should I give in same quality and time of work or should I forget that project? I need advice in this please...
     
  13. eyashwant

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    And what if then reject y work after I do it goes waste. More over I have only few no. of projects to bid as free member. So how should I use that?
     
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    When it comes to web design - some designs will be spot on with the clients needs and some will be so far off you will think you spoke a different language to them lol.

    I personally never lower my price to much - if someone is offering the job for $30 - then let them have it.

    I always tell potential clients to look at things this way -

    If your building a website that is going be a business to you - if you was opening a shop in the city/town - would you spend $30 or $30000 for that shop front - bearing in mind customers are going to come to your shop - do u want to impress or just turn them away.

    Personally - I would try find someone that is looking for web designers - try get in that way - this way they deal with the clients and u just deal with them - I find it makes my life alot easier - it may mean u get £500 for a site that he is charging the client a lot more - but I''m happy to cut out the "dealing with the client" side of things.
     
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    so i have written 3 test and passed well..added many thingsd to profile. now i need to start getting business...but all projects have 10+ bids

    then how as a beginner i will get

    my price is just 10$ in odesk

    http://www.odesk.com/users/~~f8548a5d1c41a425

    The above is the profile


    Pleasde giuve me a rating and what i should do next
     
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    Get out into the real world, find your local small business owners group and attend their meetings. Introduce yourself as a web developer, and you'll start getting some business. If you're good and you charge the right amount, word will spread locally.

    Never undercharge. You can do things cheaply, but if you undercharge by too much it's harder to be able to charge full amounts later.

    Finally you need a profile to show off your previous work. It doesn't matter if your previous work isn't actually live or if it's freebies for people you know, just as long as people can see something. Don't rip-off somebody else's portfolio, somebody will find out and call you on it.

    Finally pm me your portfolio. I'm a developer rather than a designer so sometimes need somebody to make my stuff look pretty.
     
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    why not also offer your service to BHW. I'm pretty sure a lot of people will be interest.
     
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    Stay away from 99designs and other design competition sites. you'll work your ass off for nothing.

    A client I worked with originally put something on 99designs, didn't like any of their work and hired me to do it. All those guys worked for nothing. Design competition sites and Odesk, who monitors your work around the clock, are slavery 2.0.
     
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    so odesk is also waste?