How to be excellent in English ?

Read many books, try chatting with someone, watch movies/TV on english... Just practice :)
 
Since this is an IM forum, I should ask you this.
What do you want to do with 'excellent english'?
Do you have a plan to be an english teacher? :)

English is likely my 3rd language, and there are still many to learn (if I really need to).
I feel my english is better now (then last year for example), I gain(ed?) it by reading lots of english materials, ebook, blogs, and most importantly (in my case), forums.
Just read and read, and you will feel it.
I still have problems with tenses, for example, but who cares?
I don't have a plan to write a book (I can outsource or proof read it easily, anyway).

I can write articles in (quite) good english, at least people won't totally confuse what I'm talking about, and more importantly, the SE bot can understand it.
Actually, I've just wrote a proposal for a client in 3000+ words, and it seems he can understand it clearly.
I can make spun article in 3rd level (phragraph-sentence-word) if I want/have to.
But all of those jobs can be outsourced, right?

So, having an excellent english won't do much for me, the time i spent to learn it can be spent on other more important things. As long as I can understand any written english (I don't speak english but I read and write english, lol) and can express my idea in a degree that people can understand it, I'm good. (I hope you guys can understand this post so I won't feel totally f**ed up!)

Then again, I'm thinking in an "IM point of view", cause we're in an IM forum.

you true
your words made from the gold
i not plan to be an english teacher but all i need is understand any English word

English is my third language too! I read english novels to improve my english. Believe me, after reading one whole book, you're good to go

when i began my e-marketing live i was need to read a lot of e-books
first the progress was very difficult to me
after some time i now can read any SEO,SEM,affiliate e-book without dictionary

THIS! Read, read, READ a lot of novels. Know why? Because after a while when you sit down to write a proper sentence, it'll either sound "right" or "off."

This skill is only refined when you've read so many materials that it's drilled into your subconscious mind the "right" way to write and construct a sentence.

Spelling and grammar are the foundation of a language, but don't spend too much time on it trying to be 100% perfect especially with grammar.

You just want to make writing an unconscious skill that just FLOWS and sounds good. After all, what's the point of writing? To communicate. If it flows and the reader knows what you're saying, you've already achieved what you want.

English is not my first language either. :)

you right
reading is the key
 
[SIZE=+2]Please do not be offended with this post it is only for learning

T[/SIZE]he English language contains a rich array of slang words and phrases. This can be particularly seen when examining the day to day language of the average Londoner. A great many London slang terms derive from the Cockney tradition and fall into the bracket of 'Rhyming Slang'. Other terms have been introduced by the influx of other cultures into the capital. The resulting mishmash has created what academics sometimes call 'Estuary English' (after the area of the Thames Estuary), although this term is used more to describe the accent used in the area.

[SIZE=+1]baby giraffe[/SIZE] - Rhyming Slang for 'half' of a pint of beer.
[SIZE=+1]backhander[/SIZE] - a payment given, normally in a secretive fashion.
[SIZE=+1]ballistic[/SIZE] - to go mad with rage. eg "He went totally ballistic".
[SIZE=+1]banged up[/SIZE] - to be put in prison. eg "Did you hear John got banged up for that blag".
[SIZE=+1]bangers[/SIZE] - another name for sausages. Originates from the fact that they explode when cooking if they are not pierced first. A traditional English meal is 'bangers and mash' (sausages + mashed potatoes).
[SIZE=+1]banging[/SIZE] - a 'rave culture' term meaning exciting, powerful etc. Has replaced terms such as 'kicking' and 'slammin'. A typical example of the term being used would be when a clubber says a DJ was playing 'banging choons' (a lively full-on set).
[SIZE=+1]banjaxed[/SIZE] - meaning drunk or stoned. eg "I feel really banjaxed". From the word 'banjax' - meaning to smash or destroy.

[SIZE=+1]naff off[/SIZE] - a milder version off **** off. Popularised by the UK comedy serial 'Porridge'.
[SIZE=+1]nancy boy[/SIZE] - a now seldom used term for a gay man.
[SIZE=+1](the) nick[/SIZE] - police station, or prison. e.g.. "He got banged-up in the nick for 6 months".
[SIZE=+1]naff[/SIZE] - a popular word meaning cheap, tacky or of poor quality.
[SIZE=+1]naff off[/SIZE] - "go away" - e.g.. "Why don't you naff off". Can be used as a mild form of "**** off".
[SIZE=+1]nifty[/SIZE] - slang for a 'fifty' (pound note).


[SIZE=+1](a) night (out) on the tiles[/SIZE] - a late night out, usually drunk.
[SIZE=+1]nipper[/SIZE] - a small child.
[SIZE=+1]safe[/SIZE] - good, all is fine. General term used to indicate that everything is o.k.
[SIZE=+1]salmon and trout[/SIZE] - Rhyming Slang for 'snout', meaning tobacco.
[SIZE=+1]salt / sort[/SIZE] - the word salt means woman (esp. a 'loose' woman or sexual partner) and has been used since the 19th century. Usually pron. 'sort'. It is used in a slightly derogatory way and is nearly always prefixed by 'some old'. e.g. "Dave wasn't dahn the boozer last night, must av been out with some old sort he met the other night".
[SIZE=+1]sausage jockey[/SIZE] - a gay man (a man who 'rides' 'sausages').
[SIZE=+1]scarpa / scarper[/SIZE] - Rhyming Slang for Scapa Flow - to run off / leave quickly.
[SIZE=+1]Scooby-Do[/SIZE] - Modern Rhyming Slang for 'clue'. e.g. "I 'avn't a Scooby mate".
[SIZE=+1]scrounge[/SIZE] - to beg or sponge off of others.
[SIZE=+1]seeing-to[/SIZE] - to perform sexual intercourse. e.g. "I'd give her a good seeing-to".
[SIZE=+1]see you next Tuesday[/SIZE] - an very rude acronym (C U Next Tuesday). There are many more here on Riley's see you next Tuesday site.
[SIZE=+1]Sexton Blake[/SIZE] - Rhyming Slang for 'fake'.
[SIZE=+1]shafted[/SIZE] - to be treated badly, to be in trouble. e.g. "I'm totally shafted if I don't get that job".
[SIZE=+1]shafting[/SIZE] - sexual intercourse. e.g. "I gave her a good shafting".
[SIZE=+1]shag[/SIZE] - very common mildly rude term for sexual intercourse.
[SIZE=+1]shagged-out[/SIZE] - to feel tired.
[SIZE=+1]shitfaced[/SIZE] - very drunk. Can be abbreviated to 'faced'.
[SIZE=+1]shit for brains[/SIZE] - term of abuse for someone of low wit or intelligence.
[SIZE=+1]shitter[/SIZE] - common term for the anus. Can also be used as a term of frustration - i.e. "That's a real shitter". Also see "Garry Glitter".
[SIZE=+1]shed-load[/SIZE] - a huge amount. e.g. "I've got a shed-load of dodgy stuff for sale".
[SIZE=+1]shell-like[/SIZE] - the ear. e.g. The old phrase "Can I have a word in your shell-like ?".
[SIZE=+1]shell-out[/SIZE] - to have to pay for, usually unexpectedly.
[SIZE=+1]sherbert dab[/SIZE] - Modern Rhyming Slang for 'cab' (taxi).
[SIZE=+1]sherbet / sherbert[/SIZE] - an alcoholic drink (usually a beer). Derives from the Turkish word 'sherbet' which was a cooling drink made from fruit juice. e.g. "Fancy a stroll down the pub for a few sherbets ?".
[SIZE=+1]sherman (tank)[/SIZE] - Rhyming Slang for 'wank' (to masturbate). Normally used in it's short form. e.g. "John's been ages in the toilet. Probably gone for a sherman !".
[SIZE=+1]sheriffs badge[/SIZE] - one of many slang terms for the anus. Thus known because of the star shaped badge of a wild west sheriff.
[SIZE=+1]shirtlifter[/SIZE] - a gay man. Comes from the fact that ones shirt would have to be lifted before anal intercourse.
[SIZE=+1]shoeing[/SIZE] - to give something a good 'shoeing' is to give it all you've got or to go for it. May come from a football term ? Comments ?
[SIZE=+1]Sir Anthony Blunt[/SIZE] - Rhyming Slang for 'cunt'. Also see 'berk'.
[SIZE=+1]skin diver[/SIZE] - Modern Rhyming Slang for 'fiver' (five pound note). Also "deep sea diver".
[SIZE=+1]skint[/SIZE] - to have no money, penniless. Also see 'boracic' and 'potless'.
[SIZE=+1]skirt[/SIZE] - young attractive woman. Often preceded with "a bit of". A common 'lads' term. e.g. "I never realized this was such a good place to eye skirt" or "What you need is a nice bit of skirt to cheer you up".
[SIZE=+1]skunk[/SIZE] - a particularly strong variety of marijuana. Named so because of it's strong smell.
[SIZE=+1]sky rocket[/SIZE] - Rhyming Slang for pocket. e.g. "He're a monkey son, stick that in your sky rocket !".
[SIZE=+1]slag[/SIZE] - a very common word for a loose woman or generally a rough looking bird. e.g. "She is a right old slag". Used by men and women. It can also be used amongst men as an insult and can be heard in 70's and 80's police drama's ("Shut it you slaaag !").
[SIZE=+1]slaphead[/SIZE] - a bald per son.
[SIZE=+1]slapper[/SIZE] - a common term for a loose woman.
[SIZE=+1]slash[/SIZE] - a very common slang term for urination. e.g. "I'm dying for a slash".
[SIZE=+1]smeg ![/SIZE] - derived from the word smegma. Can be used as an exclamation or a euphemism for ****. e.g. "Oh smeg I forgot to post that letter !". This saying was very much popularized by the UK TV series 'Red Dwarf'.
[SIZE=+1]smeghead[/SIZE] - an idiot, dickhead. Popularized (if not actually invented) by the UK TV series 'Red Dwarf'.
[SIZE=+1]snog[/SIZE] - to kiss, usually with tongues. A childish word, mainly used by teenagers ("Cor, Sally got a snog off John after the disco !") or humorously by others ("Fancy a snog luv ?").
[SIZE=+1]snout[/SIZE] - tobacco. A prison term. Derives from the fact that the smoking of banned tobacco in prison was often masked by pretending to rub the nose.
[SIZE=+1]solid[/SIZE] - reliable, dependable (a solid geezer). e.g. "You don't have to worry about Dave, he's a solid bloke". Also another name for cannabis resin.


thanks for sharing but i can't understand this
i will back to it at the morning
 
One of the best ways possible to become fluent at English is to practice something called "Role Playing" on instant messenger clients such as Yahoo and MSN.

By creating a character and playing it's reactions in various scenarios, you strengthen your use of the English language in many contexts. You also converse with others, since they'll describe their characters and the world around it.

You can find communities of role players by searching Google, and by going to the Role Playing Games chat rooms in Yahoo Messenger.
 
English is the 2nd hardest language in the world to learn next to Chinese.

Japanese is the hardest language. It is a mixture of chinese with Kanjis. Learning english is much easier than learning spanish, for instance. Another thing you got have in mind is that you cannot become as good as a native speaker if you begin studying any foreign language after 7 years old.


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English is the 2nd hardest language in the world to learn next to Chinese.

no man
take this list
Icelandic
Russian
Arabic
Japanese
Mandarin
Hungarian
 
Well what makes a language hard to learn also depends on which languages you're already fluent in.

I have a foundation in English, Italian, and Chinese so if I were to learn French & Spanish (which I did in school but I forgot most of it) it wouldn't be that hard.

Learning Japanese also wouldn't be too hard because I can read the kanji.

If I had access to Russian, other slavic languages would also be easier to learn.
 
ITs all to do with how your brain is wired with the Consciousness Universe.

This is how some people can learn like 10 languages easily while others dont stand a chance.
THe information is already there to pull but if your not wired correctly no chance in hell
Same with music why some people genius others absolute crap?
 
i think u need to decide which english you want to learn "american" or "british" type english cuz that dude with all those quotes from london is bugging....i have no idea what all that slang was cuz we dont have it here in the states...we have different slang and terminology...the advice to read proper published books is very sage and that is the way you should proceed as well as watching US news so that u can have an understanding of how certain words are pronounced and proper diction...hope that helps
 
the easiest way is to move somewhere where english is the primary language and the majority of people know how to speak it properly. (like usa/canada/uk/australia)

if you can't do that, then try doing a google search for good speech courses and then see if any of them are available on bittorrent. you'll want a video or audio course, not just a book.

you really need to actually hear it being spoken properly to program your brain to start doing it yourself. simply reading about it won't cut it.

also,
i want to understand any English word without dictionary
i want to write any word without mistakes
these aren't reasonable goals. english is my first language and i'm still constantly looking up definitions and spelling of words i've either never seen before or don't see often enough to memorize. there's a lot of friggin words out there lol; no need to think you have to know ALL of them perfectly. :)
 
There is a lot of good information in this thread. What i can add to it is my experience, with movies, series etc. Download them on original language and grab the subtitles on your own language. You will learn a lot from it too. Of course the subtitle has to be good quality. I did that for a year or so, and now for almost a year i watch movies w/o subtitles, and if i dont get the meaning of a sentence, i just look it up in dictionary.


edit: didnt see Sunbros's comment, i wrote almost the same as him. So that means its effective. :) And his comment reminded me i did watch the movies with english subtitles a lot more later on.
 
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Simply Stand In front of mirror think yourself another person in mirror

JUST SPEAK SPEAK SPEAK EVEN SOME TIME U speak WRONG BUT TRY THIS FOR HALF HOUR DAily and after 1 month u are able to speak english with any body

but they key is consistency
 
BHW have amazing members and i glad for this information
now
i want to be more clear
i need to pass TOEFL IBT exam and get at least 5.5 in 4 sections
i tried to enter online test to know my level and the result was
( Intermediate )
so can i pass TOEFL after 6 months of studying ? with 2hour/day study ?
 
BHW have amazing members and i glad for this information
now
i want to be more clear
i need to pass TOEFL IBT exam and get at least 5.5 in 4 sections
i tried to enter online test to know my level and the result was
( Intermediate )
so can i pass TOEFL after 6 months of studying ? with 2hour/day study ?

I really suggest you to start using capitalized letters at the start of the sentences, and dots at the end. I don't want to sound rude, but start it here :D
 
Simply Stand In front of mirror think yourself another person in mirror

JUST SPEAK SPEAK SPEAK EVEN SOME TIME U speak WRONG BUT TRY THIS FOR HALF HOUR DAily and after 1 month u are able to speak english with any body

but they key is consistency

@ cyrsss...if this is the method that you used to learn how to speak english...then u better get back in the mirror quick cuz its not working...ur shit is shabby at best!

@ the OP...the english language is very nuanced and requires alot of little words to connect sentences all together and the main problem i see with most people that are not native english speakers is they dont not use those little words which makes there sentences sound broken...(the quote above is an example)
 
┼blackrat┼;2231601 said:
Play video games.

Seriously, I learned 70% from the resident evil series and the first metal gear solid for PS1.

That's the most awesome way to learn English ever.
 
Reading is useless in perfecting language skills in the sense that it takes to much time and the benefits are too small.
- Never use subs / dubs when watching English movies.

- Play only English versions of games.

- Chat a lot (in English of course). Be an ewhore if you must, 1-2 hours of chatting every day will imporve your language skills greatly, especially your grammar.

- Never ever use a 2-way dictionary! Figure out the meaning from the surrounding context. Many people that know a foreign language will tell you that they can't translate 20% of the words they are using 1:1. When all methods fail, use a thesaurus. They often provide a contextual explanation.

- Don't use slang, it looks unnatural and is often misplaced when not coming from a native speaker.
 
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