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How to analyse domain metrics

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Divvy, Apr 2, 2016.

  1. Divvy

    Divvy Junior Member

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    Hello guys,

    I am trying to found some good expired domains.
    Can someone please help me how to found the best seo metrics?

    For example, I normally look for domains that have:
    >40 page authority
    >15 TF
    >4,00 MZ
    >10 referring domains
    >1k backlinks
    <4 Spam Score

    What else should I looking for?
    How about CF, whats the best value for this?

    Please advice, thanks :)

    Kind regards,
    Tim
     
  2. asap1

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    CF does not matter much but if its really low then the links might be weak.

    Only check for PA and DA from moz, everything else is kinda useless.

    I like at least 15 DA or the domain is most likely weak but prefer 20+ DA.

    20+ PA is fine since not all the links will point to the homepage so this will be lower sometimes.

    If the domain has these metrics I manually check it.
     
  3. Divvy

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    Hey,

    Thank you for your reply buddy!
    I'm trying to build a PBN, so I really need good domains.

    I have a list with lots of >30 PA but most of them are .edu, .gov.au, .is, .cn, .us, .co.uk
    This domains are hard to register right? Should I look only at .com, .net, .org and .info?

    There is lots of people saying that MZ and TF is also good. Why do you ignore these metrics? :)

    How do you manually check domains? What do you do?

    Thank you buddy!
     
  4. kriwil

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    DA PA and CF TF can be easily manipulated,
    the best way to check domain metric is, check manually the link profile, if good than use it for PBN or moneysite
     
  5. Divvy

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    How do you check the link profile? Any good free tool for this?
     
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    Take a look at the anchor profiles and backlinks - first one is to make sure they aren't spammed (although you should check archive.org as well just to be sure), 2nd to see if there are any "juicy" links that your money site will benefit from.
     
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    This sounds pretty stupid. So you want only sitewide backlinks? 100 links from every backlinking site?

    Anyway, you should look at the backlinks, not at the metrics.
     
  8. Divvy

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    Hey bignose, I know what you mean but like I said, I am a newbie on this :p

    But before you look at the backlinks you need to guide from metrics, or not?
    If yes, what metrics you're looking for good domains? :)

    Thank you buddy!
     
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    My ratio for TF/CF is .66 because It looks spammy when the CF is higher than TF. Also, verify each of your domain's backlink profile. Domains with natural have high percentage of URL and brand anchor text then check your domains using wayback machine. Watch out for domains that turned into something completely different like for example it was turned into Japanese blog network. You have to avoid these kind of domains.
     
  10. schigeden

    schigeden Newbie

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    What do you think about expired domains which were redirected to other non-spammy similar domains? Lets say the old domain holder wanted to change to a better sounding domain name and redirected the old one via 301. Shall i still take it for pbn, if it has good metrics and back link profile?
     
  11. Divvy

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    Thank you for the tips! :)
    Can you teach me how to calculate the TF/CF ratio?
    What SEO tool do you use?


    Thanks! Whats the best to see this domain metrics?
     
  12. Divvy

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    How to calculate TF/CF ratio?

    I have read this:
    https://blog.majestic.com/general/u...flow-trust-flow-check-quality-link-prospects/

    So If I found a domain with:
    TF: 34
    CF: 62

    Is Trust Flow / Citation Flow = Trust Ratio aka 34 / 62 = 0.548
    In this example, is 0.548 and is a bad domain right?


    Or is the opposite?
    CF / TF = 62 / 34 = 1.823

    I have read this:
    http://domainmetricstool.com/cf-tf-ratio/

    TF / CF?
    Or CF / TF?

    I am confused :p
     
  13. Santhor

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    Hey mate,

    It's CF/TF. Basically, you want that number to be under 1 (meaning CF equal to or slightly lower than TF) if possible. Though, the general consensus is that a CF/TF ratio as high as 1.5 can be acceptable (given that the links are from good/reputable and related sites and everything else checks out).

     
  14. Divvy

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    Thank you buddy!! It was a great help :)

     
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  15. dCorp

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    Quite informative stuff for people who are looking to start creating PBNs and I am one of them but people are still shying to share their Seo tools for finding domains with decent metrics.
     
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  16. Divvy

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    So, just trying to understand, looking to this examples, what the following domains is considered a good domain?

    Example1:
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    Example2:
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    Example3:
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    Example5:
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    Looking at this:

    Example1:
    CF/TF Ratio - 0
    external backlinks - 1

    Example2:
    CF/TF Ratio - 1.54
    external backlinks - 57

    Example3:
    CF/TF Ratio - 1.1
    external backlinks - 130k

    Example4:
    CF/TF Ratio - 1.9
    external backlinks - 22

    Example5:
    CF/TF Ratio - 1.1
    external backlinks - 82k


    Example1 is a bad domain because dont have CF and TF right?
    Example2 is a good domain because have ratio below 1.5 but only have 57 backlinks
    Example3 is a good domain because have 1.1 ratio and have 130k backlinks?
    Example4 is a bad domain because have ratio above 1.5 and only 22 backlinks?
    Example5 is a good domain because have 1.1 ratio and have 82k backlinks?

    Please advice for better understanding :)

    Btw, in this examples I think example3 is the best domain right?
    Lets imagine that I register this domain, but I dont want to restore the old site.
    If I add a 301 redirect to my money site will improve my rankings?
    Or is bad seo making this 301 redirects and is better to add a backlink to my money site instead?

    Thanks :)
     
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  17. dCorp

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    I 2nd this. A thoughtful (experienced) answer with detailed explanation of the above post would help a lot of people here (including me) who are trying to solve the "metrics puzzle" of expired domains. I want to start creating PBNs and the queries like above always hold me back as I get confused with the "information overload" while fetching domain metrics.
     
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  18. Divvy

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    Hey mate, thank you for the bump :)
    Hope someone will help us..
     
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    thanks OP and the rest for adding such a valuable information... great stuff, loved the post
     
  20. Santhor

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    Hi mate,

    I?ll try to explain my way of doing things; hope other people will also chime in to give all who ask this an even better idea.

    Please keep in mind that all my comments about these domains are based solely on the numbers visible on the screenshots (since I cannot see the actual domains/backlinks).

    Domain 1:

    I wouldn?t think this was a good domain simply as there are too many backlinks from very few domains (like about 3 thousand from 36-57 domains. That will probably mean that they are sitewide links like footer or sidebar links. Plus, experience tells me that too many backlinks are usually a sign of past spam).

    Domain 2:

    This actually looks to be the best of the lot - at least on paper. The subdomain has OK metrics (17 TF, 26 CF, 19 links from 10 root domains). If the links check out after close inspection (meaning you actually see that: 1) they are still there; 2) they are placed on good/acceptable sites; and 3) no obvious sign of spam (like adult or counterfeit clothing anchors, etc), then this could be an acceptable domain.

    Domain 3:

    Same as Domain 1. Too many backlinks from very few (relatively of course) domains.

    Domain 4:

    Looks weak on paper, may be somewhat acceptable if those few links come from really strong sites (but I doubt that since the TF is quite low in all 3 instances).

    Domain 5:

    Same as Domains 1 and 3.

    Like I said, this all is based on the numbers I see here. You of course would need to do the checks I mentioned above plus look at the site?s history on Screenshots.com and Archive.org. Just a little tip, I first check Screenshots.com as it loads much faster than Archive.org and helps me weed out most obviously spammed sites very quickly. If the site looks OK there, I then check Archive.org and Majestic.

    Hope this helps clarify things a bit :)