How is this site still ranking?

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Hi, I am perplexed by the site noson.ch. I follow their linkbuilding since half a year and they do everything, what a blackhat has to offer.
If you look into ahrefs, you see crazy amounts of all kinds of blackhat backlinks.
I doubt that this is a competitor trying to shot them down as there is too much effort in that. And even if it were a competitor, they possibly could not keep up with disavowing these backlinks.
How in the world is that site still ranking? Could this be due to being a real brand?
 
the site looks good, why should it not rank?? I mean, apart from the fact that they have an "account" icon but you can't sign up (which is weird indeed) it looks pretty good to me, from a normal user perspective. I would definitely buy their crap had I been interested in that stuff. And if they have google analytics installed and are making sales google can see they are making money so they reward them with delicious rankings even more since google loves rich people. Again, I see no reason why they shouldn't rank, but maybe I'm missing something??
 
You would be surprised to see how many large fashion brands are ranking for everything with mostly pbn / seo agency links...
Strictly seen these websites should have penalties... but instead they rank like crazy...
would be so nice to have a 10.000.000 for -just- a website :)
 
the site looks good, why should it not rank?? I mean, apart from the fact that they have an "account" icon but you can't sign up (which is weird indeed) it looks pretty good to me, from a normal user perspective. I would definitely buy their crap had I been interested in that stuff. And if they have google analytics installed and are making sales google can see they are making money so they reward them with delicious rankings even more since google loves rich people. Again, I see no reason why they shouldn't rank, but maybe I'm missing something??
Hi, it’s not the site itself, it’s the incredibly blackhat backlinks profile. But that can only be seen mostly through tools like ahrefs.com
 
You would be surprised to see how many large fashion brands are ranking for everything with mostly pbn / seo agency links...
Strictly seen these websites should have penalties... but instead they rank like crazy...
would be so nice to have a 10.000.000 for -just- a website :)
Yeah, the brand leniency of Google has become somewhat absurd…
 
And even if it were a competitor, they possibly could not keep up with disavowing these backlinks.
It's actually not that difficult to disavow large number of toxic backlinks if you have tools like SEMRush. Takes a bit of work and going through the links so you don't miss something valuable, but they are able to detect the majority of bad backlinks.
 
Hi, I am perplexed by the site noson.ch. I follow their linkbuilding since half a year and they do everything, what a blackhat has to offer.
If you look into ahrefs, you see crazy amounts of all kinds of blackhat backlinks.
I doubt that this is a competitor trying to shot them down as there is too much effort in that. And even if it were a competitor, they possibly could not keep up with disavowing these backlinks.
How in the world is that site still ranking? Could this be due to being a real brand?
Never heard of them before you said but if it is real brand you claim then I can explain it.

Google lets people off with things who make them big money for example a few companies pay Google like $10,000 to say 200,000 per month on Adwords if they do that Google lets of with more less anything such as I big company who makes work machines they pay Google like $50,000 on Adwords because of that they can do more less anything Google does not care as long as they pay Google you basically one of the team more less.
 
Never heard of them before you said but if it is real brand you claim then I can explain it.

Google lets people off with things who make them big money for example a few companies pay Google like $10,000 to say 200,000 per month on Adwords if they do that Google lets of with more less anything such as I big company who makes work machines they pay Google like $50,000 on Adwords because of that they can do more less anything Google does not care as long as they pay Google you basically one of the team more less.
I am not so sure about that. We pay Google for Google Ads Search, GDN, YouTube, APIs much much higher numbers and from my understanding they have a wall inside the company between the engineers and the ads departments. It’s very infrequent when I can talk with Google product managers, but for the paid products, you get massive support if you budget is fine. And even with very high ad budgets, we have to deal with the same organic stuff as most webmasters do.
 
I am not so sure about that. We pay Google for Google Ads Search, GDN, YouTube, APIs much much higher numbers and from my understanding they have a wall inside the company between the engineers and the ads departments. It’s very infrequent when I can talk with Google product managers, but for the paid products, you get massive support if you budget is fine. And even with very high ad budgets, we have to deal with the same organic stuff as most webmasters do.
Well if you consider this a lot of the richest companies often do real blackhat SEO all the time for example one of my friends works for giant company a competitor of Mars he GSA the sticks high quality style and he gets paid every month by them $50,000 that's all he does more less to the site
 
Well if you consider this a lot of the richest companies often do real blackhat SEO all the time for example one of my friends works for giant company a competitor of Mars he GSA the sticks high quality style and he gets paid every month by them $50,000 that's all he does more less to the site
Haha, crazy. Ok I believe you, but that’s a risk we would not take. Greetings!
 
I will share one further example in the past I was doing link building for a fairly big American company another guy told me"Hi look don't worry about doing things be crazy or aggressive SEO wise this company rich Google lets them do anything more less" so I thought okay let's do bit more risky SEO sort of things overall done more less anything never got any issues or even ranking loss at all.
 
I will share one further example in the past I was doing link building for a fairly big American company another guy told me"Hi look don't worry about doing things be crazy or aggressive SEO wise this company rich Google lets them do anything more less" so I thought okay let's do bit more risky SEO sort of things overall done more less anything never got any issues or even ranking loss at all.
Crazy, I would not trust the brand factor that much, but every companies risk tolerance, market position and conditions, etc. are different, so why not.
 
Crazy, I would not trust the brand factor that much, but every companies risk tolerance, market position and conditions, etc. are different, so why not.
becouse google is not taking in account those crapy backlinks anymore... the disavow thing was to teach their AI.. now it knows what links are "good" or "bad" and simply ignore them. No need to disavow links anymore... and of course, that makes attacks much more difficult
 
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