How e-mail submits work and why you get scrubbed

The scrubbing is due to people using programs like godcpa and cheating the offers, they arent cheating the advertiser, they are cheating you legitimate marketers. The advertiser is balances the eco system.

I used to run some heavy volume in email submits. Conversions in the 20% plus range for months. Simply because we limited who ran it with us and kept quality high.

help cut out the cheating pubs and youll see your earnings go up.

mkrongel said:

The scrubbing is due to people using programs like godcpa and cheating the offers, they arent cheating the advertiser, they are cheating you legitimate marketers. The advertiser is balances the eco system.

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Here's an idea... why not just scrub the ones cheating the system? What the advertisers are doing is no different to the what the cheats are doing.

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Most of the offers are the same with the offers from the second page. That is why the quality is down, I think.

Nice PIC Krongel

It makes sense that they have to scrub... otherwise like, I could see so much fraud destroying them, but scrubbing just to fatten their bottom line is pretty immoral.

This thread is highly educative.

that was really informative. thanks. i was testing email/zip and was wondering about all those offers after the 1st page and trying to figure out what the "best" network is. so now probably more research for me

My 2 cents is that I typically only run email submits as an add-on to a campaign that's already profitable or breaking even. Adding the email submit adds some incremental upside that often helps me reach my 50% margin threshold for my campaigns.

Let me give you a made up example...
If one of my primary PPC campaigns is for WeightWatchers, because it converts at break even or above - what I would also do then to take it up a notch is somehow get my secondary offer, maybe a Weight Watchers email submit (or another relevant weight loss offer) into my offer funnel (I do this using a variety of methods) .

I have personally have examples of this where my secondary offer covers all of my advertising expenses and my primary offer is all profit.

I am also a member of Gauher Chaudrys PPC & PPV Formula forums. Gauher and many members swear that a lot of money is still being made with pure email submits... but that's not my experience or expertise.

One last thing I do is to rotate my email submits between 2 and 3 similar offers. I find that this helps keep the volumes lower (of course) per offer and it seems to reduce attention to my leads and related scrubbing. I used to test for the best offer and then just run that one, but I've had 30 & 40% conversion rates that quickly went down to 5-10%. So I run similar offers that may not all convert as well initially, but which deliver me a better epc in the long run due to less scrubbing.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Peter

I guess this clear everything...

can you get fined for doing email submits

i taked cecash scrub then? my totals have been awful with them

Awesome post