How do you live with wordpress updates?

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How do you guys live with wordpress updates?

The updates happen every other day, and each update breaks at least 3 things.

So do you guys have a developer on full time payroll or what do you do about it?

I FUCKING HATE UPDATES!!!

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How I dealt with it, in my infinite wisdom, is I simply brought my site to a functional state, and then I killed all updates. Nothing ever gets updated = nothing ever breaks

This works guaranteed no problem, you can enjoy your life.

However, as time goes by various security vulnerabilities get discovered for your outdated wordpress/theme/plugins, and so they get updated to patch the holes. But since your stuff isn't being updated, in time you become most vulnerable to getting hacked.

Also your sites may get slow, because the world moves on, PHP versions get updated, browsers get updated, all that shit, and you're just running outdated code.

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Having said that, I'm thinking to continue this practice of not updating anything, and then go in once every 6 or 12 months and update everything.

When I update everything. 997 things are going to break on the website, and I'll sit down and fix them all.

And once I'm done, I can forget about it for another 6-12 months.

This I can live with, if I must, since I must... :weep:

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Just to say, my favorite website in the whole wide world is my first website where I ever made any real money.

I won't share it here because it could be considered self-promotion, but this website is pretty much only HTML and CSS, and a bit of PHP. But the PHP is mostly just there in order to allow me to change some things from a central config.php file, nothing else. And maybe for the contact form process too.

This website is 7 years old, and hasn't been updated once. I have no idea if it's, like, exploitable, vulnerable to getting hacked, but I never had any problems with it. Come to think of it, I should really get someone to take a look at the site and tell me if there's any holes that can be exploited by hackers there.

But there's a good chance there aren't any. The site is simple, with the most basic and uncomplicated code. There's no fancy shit for someone to fancily fuck!

This site just works, forever, I don't have to think of it for one second. Maybe I should just stick to using such simple sites for all my needs, and have peace in my life. Meh...

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Anyway, how do you live with your stupid retarded idiotic constantly updating and breaking wordpress shitty sites?

Thanks :)
 
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Updates are to fix bugs and the ever evolving security threats. If you don't update you'll keep coming back with threads like hostgator dropping your websites for overusing their resources :D
 
getseoonline said:
My hosting provider does that for me mate
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Your hosting provider updates your wordpress version and wordpress theme and all your plugins?

What if a plugin stops working, do they find an equal replacement to it and replace it?

I don't believe you.

Borderless Hustle said:
Updates are to fix bugs and the ever evolving security threats. If you don't update you'll keep coming back with threads like hostgator dropping your websites for overusing their resources :D
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I don't know about bugs. I haven't updated my wordpress sites in years, and they work for the most part just as well as they worked when I stopped updating. There's no bugs, not really. Like okay, I can't switch one one of them I can't switch on the post editor between the HTML mode and the regular mode, but whatever.

The security threats, that's the fucken problem, yeah.
 
Updates shouldn't be breaking anything unless you're making changes in the core/theme files.
 
Updates never broke mine.
But they do brake sites I worked on and its a nightmare to deal with.
Most of the time its either theme and plugins from theme forest where the author have stopped releasing updates to their theme and have packed up and left theme forest or included a now outdated plugin.

So ya most of the time its not because you made changes to the wp core.
 
ePrime said:
Updates shouldn't be breaking anything unless you're making changes in the core/theme files.
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AH!!!

That's not true. They're always breaking things.

All of a sudden this updated plugin is not incompatible with this other plugin, but first you gotta move a mountain in order to figure out what the problem is, and then you gotta move another mountain to figure out what's causing the problem, and then you gotta move another mountain to figure out why this thing is causing the problem, and then you gotta move another mountain to fix the problem.

And by the time you're done 7 hours have gone by and you haven't done dick all day!

And ALL THIS is only assuming you even NOTICE the problem in the first place! A problem could appear after an update and you will most likely not even notice it. Which sucks even worse because by the time you notice it you've done 337 updates all over and you have absolutely no idea what you may have done to cause this new problem. So now you gotta go back one by one and think what you may have done to cause the problem and...

Goddamnit I hate updates.

You're lying, I don't believe you. You're being dishonest!
 
WordPress has a set of best practices. There's a standardized way of doing things.

While themes and plugins are both essentially PHP code, there's a defined segregation for them. Themes are supposed to manage appearance. Plugins are supposed to manage functionality.

With the advent of marketplaces, and a lot of developers jumping on the bandwagon, this segregation has grown thin.

Most themes on these marketplaces now sell for their functionality.

They're not just about aesthetics anymore.

And everyone these days is a "WordPress Expert", hacking together a website with a lot of themes and a lot of plugins. Most of them unstable. Ask them what a child theme is and they'll pee their pants.

Developing entire websites on a live server like a fucking idiot.

An update shouldn't break your site in 99% of the cases.

So as a WordPress website owner, who most likely works on their website themselves, you're supposed to plan accordingly -

1. Your core theme needs to be as light weight as possible.

2. Use a child theme to make any edits or customization, so you can freely update the main theme.

3. Enhance your website's functionality with plugins, but look at the developer. See their update history.

4. Understand what is backward compatibility.

5. If possible, use a staging site to update your website, check everything is in order and then update your main site.

If you have cPanel hosting, they include the WordPress Toolkit with every license.

It's a pretty intuitive tool that lets you update your websites and plugins, take backups, setup clones all from within cPanel. It also has an option to verify the integrity of WordPress files to see if any of your core files were edited.

6. Use Wordfence on all your sites. Keep it updated. Run timely scans.

7. If you're running a money site that is making a decent income or is about your business then harness the services of a WordPress management company such as Higheo, Maintainn or WPSitecare. They'll take care of all the headaches for you. Run updates for you after checking everything, take backups, run security scans etc.

Building a website is one thing. Maintaining it is part of your job.
 
Scorpion Ghost said:
How do you guys live with wordpress updates?

The updates happen every other day, and each update breaks at least 3 things.

So do you guys have a developer on full time payroll or what do you do about it?

I FUCKING HATE UPDATES!!!

---

How I dealt with it, in my infinite wisdom, is I simply brought my site to a functional state, and then I killed all updates. Nothing ever gets updated = nothing ever breaks

This works guaranteed no problem, you can enjoy your life.

However, as time goes by various security vulnerabilities get discovered for your outdated wordpress/theme/plugins, and so they get updated to patch the holes. But since your stuff isn't being updated, in time you become most vulnerable to getting hacked.

Also your sites may get slow, because the world moves on, PHP versions get updated, browsers get updated, all that shit, and you're just running outdated code.

---

Having said that, I'm thinking to continue this practice of not updating anything, and then go in once every 6 or 12 months and update everything.

When I update everything. 997 things are going to break on the website, and I'll sit down and fix them all.

And once I'm done, I can forget about it for another 6-12 months.

This I can live with, if I must, since I must... :weep:

---

Just to say, my favorite website in the whole wide world is my first website where I ever made any real money.

I won't share it here because it could be considered self-promotion, but this website is pretty much only HTML and CSS, and a bit of PHP. But the PHP is mostly just there in order to allow me to change some things from a central config.php file, nothing else. And maybe for the contact form process too.

This website is 7 years old, and hasn't been updated once. I have no idea if it's, like, exploitable, vulnerable to getting hacked, but I never had any problems with it. Come to think of it, I should really get someone to take a look at the site and tell me if there's any holes that can be exploited by hackers there.

But there's a good chance there aren't any. The site is simple, with the most basic and uncomplicated code. There's no fancy shit for someone to fancily fuck!

This site just works, forever, I don't have to think of it for one second. Maybe I should just stick to using such simple sites for all my needs, and have peace in my life. Meh...

---

Anyway, how do you live with your stupid retarded idiotic constantly updating and breaking wordpress shitty sites?

Thanks :)
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I just, I'm not upgrading wordpress version itself and upgrade the plugins since i found out the wordpress itself makes me most trouble, i upgrade only major versions.
 
To avoid any damage to my website, i don't update right away.
 
Scorpion Ghost said:
Your hosting provider updates your wordpress version and wordpress theme and all your plugins?

What if a plugin stops working, do they find an equal replacement to it and replace it?

I don't believe you.



I don't know about bugs. I haven't updated my wordpress sites in years, and they work for the most part just as well as they worked when I stopped updating. There's no bugs, not really. Like okay, I can't switch one one of them I can't switch on the post editor between the HTML mode and the regular mode, but whatever.

The security threats, that's the fucken problem, yeah.
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Only updates the rest I have to do it mate
 
This sounds like something wrong is going on with the overall structure of the website.
 
If it breaks for you when you update wp, it means someone played with the wp functions, you or freelancers. Better hire a dev to create a separate plugin with all the edits you need for wp functions, so you don't edit directly. Same with the theme, if you want to update it but also have custom changes, hire a dev to create a child theme. This way you can update both wp and main theme without breaking anything ever.
 
BlogPro said:
WordPress has a set of best practices. There's a standardized way of doing things.

While themes and plugins are both essentially PHP code, there's a defined segregation for them. Themes are supposed to manage appearance. Plugins are supposed to manage functionality.

With the advent of marketplaces, and a lot of developers jumping on the bandwagon, this segregation has grown thin.

Most themes on these marketplaces now sell for their functionality.

They're not just about aesthetics anymore.

And everyone these days is a "WordPress Expert", hacking together a website with a lot of themes and a lot of plugins. Most of them unstable. Ask them what a child theme is and they'll pee their pants.

Developing entire websites on a live server like a fucking idiot.

An update shouldn't break your site in 99% of the cases.

So as a WordPress website owner, who most likely works on their website themselves, you're supposed to plan accordingly -

1. Your core theme needs to be as light weight as possible.

2. Use a child theme to make any edits or customization, so you can freely update the main theme.

3. Enhance your website's functionality with plugins, but look at the developer. See their update history.

4. Understand what is backward compatibility.

5. If possible, use a staging site to update your website, check everything is in order and then update your main site.

If you have cPanel hosting, they include the WordPress Toolkit with every license.

It's a pretty intuitive tool that lets you update your websites and plugins, take backups, setup clones all from within cPanel. It also has an option to verify the integrity of WordPress files to see if any of your core files were edited.

6. Use Wordfence on all your sites. Keep it updated. Run timely scans.

7. If you're running a money site that is making a decent income or is about your business then harness the services of a WordPress management company such as Higheo, Maintainn or WPSitecare. They'll take care of all the headaches for you. Run updates for you after checking everything, take backups, run security scans etc.

Building a website is one thing. Maintaining it is part of your job.
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Well said. But you're like a wizard kinda character.

I am not a wizard. All I want is to make money walking the path of least resistance.

Your path is not the path of least resistance. My path is.

Well, that until I get hacked and my hosting provider suspends me and you have to pull out your wizard stick and save my life :p

hahahahahaha

filiposlovni said:
I just, I'm not upgrading wordpress version itself and upgrade the plugins since i found out the wordpress itself makes me most trouble, i upgrade only major versions.
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Yeah but at some point you hit a brick wall when in order for the updated plugin to work you need an updated version of Wordpress. Right?

nSnoopy said:
To avoid any damage to my website, i don't update right away.
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That's one way to go. I do the same thing with Windows updates (versions - XP, 7, 8, 10 - not the baby little updates they force on people every 3 days).

I let other people be the guinea pigs for the new releases, and I come aboard in the end when I'm forced to. And by that point any problem I run into, there's already a solution for it online because other people already dealt with it.

I stuck with Windows XP till the very end! I Love you Windows XP! :weep:

praetserge said:
That's not true.
In here, I join @IM Rider as updates have never broken mine.

PS: maybe it's true for you but it doesn't mean it's true for everybody.
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Of course it's true. Don't be talking crazy misinformation :D

Even IM Rider said it. And I quote:

IM Rider said:
Updates never broke mine.
But they do brake sites I worked on and its a nightmare to deal with.
Most of the time its either theme and plugins from theme forest where the author have stopped releasing updates to their theme and have packed up and left theme forest or included a now outdated plugin.

So ya most of the time its not because you made changes to the wp core.
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terrycody said:
I don't update.
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Are you flirting with me? :suspicious:

You wanna marry me? YES!!! I ACCEPT!!! :D

Sparked Nut said:
I only update majors releases
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Yeah but then, what constitutes a major release? I guess that's one way to go.
 
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