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How do I find aged domains?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by lrk89, May 4, 2011.

  1. lrk89

    lrk89 Registered Member

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    My domain is similair to a UK ltd company and they have requested I take my site down but the company name is not trademarked.

    but just incase i have to start again what tools do i need to use to find an expired aged domain to use?

    Thanks
     
  2. germess

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    Go to auctions(dot)godaddy.com, in the right column choose domain age and browse for domains.
     
  3. lrk89

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    Thanks. do you think this company has any rights to take my site down? the domains are similiar except mine as an - in between two words lol and we both do web design and my seo is much better so they have noticed me appear above them in google lol
     
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    Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer

    But I do have an opinion: if you are trying to look like the other company then they have grounds but if not they are probably just trying it on. Sit tight and wait for a lawyer's letter. Then get some advice or take the site down.
     
  5. lrk89

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    my site is better than there website in everyway lol thats why they are contacting me because I look more proffesional I offered to sell the domain and which all ready no.1 for some keywords in my area and they turned it down, I didnt even name a price lol.

    lkwebdesigns(.)co.uk (dont want to give them a back link) are the ones that want to take my site down. How can I get them banned from google lol
     
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    I find that Drop Day can have some gems...

    Code:
    http://hiderefer.com/?http://www.dropday.com/
    :)
     
  7. geezer466

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    You cannot get them banned from google. Just a heads up but irrespective of what they may or may not have done but that sort of talk is frowned upon here.

    If they are looking to get your site taken down then be flattered. particulary as you seem to be doing much better than they are. From what I can see doing a search on the name you have provided one firm (presumably yours as it is at no1) is in a Chelmsford postcode whilst the other would appear to be in a Redhill postcode (maybe this is yours?).

    To me it looks like to different firms, both competing against each other in the same niche. You have identical is not exactly similar Company names but operate in different parts of the UK. At first glance neither of you have cloned or copied any part of each others web sites.
    Both sites look (reasonably) professional and do not reflect a 'fly by night; nature.

    Ignore their letters and their threats to unleash their lawyer on you, they do not have a leg to stand on.

    Treat this as a learning curve, there will be persons out to swindle you and tell you untruths in the world of business if they think they can get away with it.
     
  8. lrk89

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    Thanks for the reply my site should come up for web design crawley www.lk-webdesigns.co.uk

    i might take your advice and ignore them as I bought the domain name i have rights too lol. Although if i have to go to court I dont fancy paying for court costs.
     
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    You wont and if ever a lawyer letter does arrive find a good litigation solicitor in your town and ask for the thirty minute free consultation. You get thirty minutes free and they will give you the low down on your rights and the way forward.
    My two pennies worth is they are pissing in the wind.....

    Your bricks and mortar may well be in Crawley but it has a Redhill (RH) postcode.......;)
     
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    really is that what it means lol whole of crawley is RH. I can get 30mins free consultation excellent I might see if i can sort somthing out.

    I said to this company if i buy a new domain and do a 301 to my new site LK web designs will still show up in the serps lol. and probably above them I have done some seriouse backlinking mostly manual and i almost have more back links than them in only 2months (they been around 3 years)
     
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    Do you actually provide a SEO service etc. or do you plan to use your site for affiliate and ppc?
     
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    Can you trademark the name if they haven't? Then you could ask for their domain...

    Don't reply to them again until you get a letter from a lawyer. This happens all the time because people will just hand over their domain at the first sign of trouble.
     
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    I do actually provide SEO etc lol it might cost alot to trade mark a name I havent looked in to it as lk web designs is too generic its like trying to trademark water or lemonade lol
     
  14. geezer466

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    Dont think you can trade mark a name or bunch of letters (text). Clearly this is different for trademarks and recognisable logo's.

    The case law which currently exists ( in relation to domain names under Englsh law) has to establish intent to deceive.

    For example. If you registered arsenalfc.info (or other tld) with a view to merchandising Arsenal football shirts and the like then the intent to deceive can be proven. You are using the well know name of Arsenal FC in a domain name to merchandise with a direct intention on capturing traffic intended for Arsenalfc.co.uk or whatever their site is.

    2 similar named SEO firms (not household names) operating in 2 different parts of the UK need not have anything to fear from each other.

    If you ever get a letter like it again ignore it, make no reply, the fact you have made contact even offered to sell them your domain name will only spur them on to think they have suckered you in.....

    I should point out that I am not a lawyer, I do however have a good understanding of aspects of UK Law (my speciality is employment law) and have represented persons in employment tribunals.
     
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    Thanks you made some good points. I havent recieved any letters yet its all threw emails with the company that were told by their lawyer to ask me to take my site down. Obviously I said no i wont lol

    They also dont want to buy my domain or design... i was hoping to make a quick £5,000 :)
     
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    If that's a fact then would it be difficult for them to do anything. They made a mistake and didn't buy the domain with a "-". A small but stupid mistake.

    They have a very weak case, when you are doing a regular business. If you had made the website, with a clear purpose only to sell it or use it for only adsense/affiliate, then might they be able to build up a case!

    Anyway - good luck.
     
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    If you use LOL one more time, ima shoot myself...lol lol fuckin L.O.L
     
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    I'm in the UK and you don't rank higher than them, you are actually underneath them. At least from my location you are.

    Apart from that what is the reason for choosing the name you chose? If you don't have a good explanation then you should dump it, mainly due to the fact that having someone else with the same name could hurt your business.
     
  19. geezer466

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    Why? Please Justify your statement!!
     
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    it depends, when you are still small you can benefit from their happy clients, if you succeed they ll benefit from yours...