How are Reddit UpVoting vendors providing their service?

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Kiemash said:

Hardly anyone uses a phone farm because it would be far too expensive for the seller and the customer.
Some vendors I know use a private software [bot]

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stin99 said:

Can be mobile automation or browser automation

depends what works best for you based of your location, both are quite effective

but bear in mind that is way too much tricky and will take years of testing and studying it

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Smithak said:

Not any dev can handle it

Your accounts might even get blocked

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CanuckSEO said:

No, it wouldn't be worth it. Even if someone built one, these types of services require constant updates to function properly, so you'd have to hire someone to continually maintain your panel. There’s a reason the majority of panels just resell others' services.

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mushyii said:

Browser automation through Chromium with a good aged account and good ip rotation proxy

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OptimumGuy said:

Two years ago I had my own bot written in c# using private API. It had worked great with subreddit joining/following an user/voting a poll and commenting, but it never worked for upvotes/downvotes.

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upvote said:

It's a lot more complex and expensive than it seems. You can hire someone but if they don't have experience with Reddit automation they will either give up or it'll take them forever to finish it.

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Smithak said:

Its a hard thing to build

I can build it

The issues is it requires a lot of support
1st = Reddit Spam filters ban randomly
2nd = The upvote might not stick
3rd = You burn a lot of proxies

But seems you have enough budget it could work

Ask for live demo where you see the bot upvote and the upvote works before any payment

Good luck

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redotaku18 said:

Right now I have a bot farm that creates accounts, verifies email, does different aging tasks for different days and then gets the accounts to over 100 karma. It also can send upvotes, downvotes, and comments. (I still have to refine these 3 scripts, but bad proxies got in the way of my work for now...waiting on a dongle adapter for a SIM card since I decided I'm going to do proxies myself with 4G IP rotation.)

I spent a month on this arguing back and forth with ChatGPT to make it. It was a massive pain and I don't recommend anyone taking this route. Someone on Fiverr was nice enough to help me with the captcha at login and account creation and also show me how to work with shadow DOM in video call.

Now the issue I'm having is proxies and detection, but I'm 80% there I think...?

Does anyone know if I'm going to run into any other challenges (besides detection and complicated proxy set up once my dongle gets here?)

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Jouko said:

Does your script use Selenium to create accounts? And for solving captchas, do you rely on a captcha-solving service, or do you opt for the audio challenge instead of images?

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Kasey benjamins said:

Also on reddit there is achievements the more achievements you have completed its better 2fa is better and if the account actively posts comments upvotes and makes text based posts you are not able to get banned as easily.

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j3ffb3z0s said:

10 cents per upvote???

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thecomeup said:

For that money monthly i'll literally buy physical computers and phones, hire a few workers and do it manually for you. Is it 6,000,000 upvotes a month you're buying?

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When I use rotating residential proxies (new IP ever 60 minutes) the bulk of my accounts are fine, sure accounts get banned along the way as I comment with links but most are fine.

What I notice is that there are Reddit algorithmic updates about 2 to 3 times per year that wipe out a lot of accounts. I typically see a 30% to 60% hit of banned accounts (from those that I was using rotating proxies in the past), similar to a Google algo update. (Throughout all of these updates would be running anywhere from 500 to 2,000 accounts. )

I have heard this concept that video game companies do, where the don't actively ban users in real-time when the user is doing something against their TOS, instead they let them get away with that until they have an update, and then that user will get banned. For 2 reasons, #1 it provides a longer feedback loop so people can't figure out in real time how to game the system instead the wait is months and you think you got away with it, and #2 they work on changes and then release them in batches just like Google algo updates. I think Reddit does the same thing as this video game example.

The last update was Mid March of this year, that was the biggest one. All other updates I did not notice any change of the platform, just a lot of banned accounts. But with this update, they make a platform change that made the ability to link out in your comments much more difficult, which all of you should have noticed. As traffic went up in google last year for reddit and marketers jumped on the reddit bandwagon, a lot of them claimed the reddit goldrush was over after this update

Are you guys seeing the same thing? Also, if you share what you are seeing, share how many accounts you are running? Please share your insights, experience and knowledge you have about this.

I always try to prepare for these updates and reduce as many factors as possible, including:
- high quality dedicated residential proxy
- create accounts in-house
- anti detect browser
- 5:1 normal comment to linking comment ratio
- vary anchor texts
- vary links and domains

factory24 said:

I have heard this concept that video game companies do, where the don't actively ban users in real-time when the user is doing something against their TOS, instead they let them get away with that until they have an update, and then that user will get banned.

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Yes, they won't ban the user right away because it gives away what actions trigger the video games detection system.

factory24 said:

that there are Reddit algorithmic updates about 2 to 3 times per year that w

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factory24 said:

When I use rotating residential proxies (new IP ever 60 minutes) the bulk of my accounts are fine, sure accounts get banned along the way as I comment with links but most are fine.

What I notice is that there are Reddit algorithmic updates about 2 to 3 times per year that wipe out a lot of accounts. I typically see a 30% to 60% hit of banned accounts (from those that I was using rotating proxies in the past), similar to a Google algo update. (Throughout all of these updates would be running anywhere from 500 to 2,000 accounts. )

I have heard this concept that video game companies do, where the don't actively ban users in real-time when the user is doing something against their TOS, instead they let them get away with that until they have an update, and then that user will get banned. For 2 reasons, #1 it provides a longer feedback loop so people can't figure out in real time how to game the system instead the wait is months and you think you got away with it, and #2 they work on changes and then release them in batches just like Google algo updates. I think Reddit does the same thing as this video game example.

The last update was Mid March of this year, that was the biggest one. All other updates I did not notice any change of the platform, just a lot of banned accounts. But with this update, they make a platform change that made the ability to link out in your comments much more difficult, which all of you should have noticed. As traffic went up in google last year for reddit and marketers jumped on the reddit bandwagon, a lot of them claimed the reddit goldrush was over after this update

Are you guys seeing the same thing? Also, if you share what you are seeing, share how many accounts you are running? Please share your insights, experience and knowledge you have about this.

I always try to prepare for these updates and reduce as many factors as possible, including:
- high quality dedicated residential proxy
- create accounts in-house
- anti detect browser
- 5:1 normal comment to linking comment ratio
- vary anchor texts
- vary links and domains

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Yes, I got banned from Amazon Associates in January and then started trying other methods for $$$ and around March it was brutal. All my effort for 2 months was down the drain. I had a ton of issues with links when I was doing everything manually then.

I was doing all of the above and the accounts were still getting banned or links removed. Some of them I even got to 800 karma by writing really good comments real people just upvoted. I remember panic scrolling through all those threads back then. I also remember people stopping revealing stuff because they were convinced Reddit/Google people were looking at the threads.

lyxius said:

I think Reddit upvoting vendors typically offer their services by providing fake or manipulated votes to boost posts or comments. They may use bots or incentivize users to upvote content, though this practice is against Reddit’s terms of service and can lead to penalties or account bans.

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AI generated comment...?

I had a robot I coded in C++ that used a private API. It did a great job with joining subreddits, following users, voting in polls, and commenting, but it never managed to handle upvotes or downvotes.

redotaku18 said:

AI generated comment...?

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Lol,seems

What does private API mean?

factory24 said:

When I use rotating residential proxies (new IP ever 60 minutes) the bulk of my accounts are fine, sure accounts get banned along the way as I comment with links but most are fine.

What I notice is that there are Reddit algorithmic updates about 2 to 3 times per year that wipe out a lot of accounts. I typically see a 30% to 60% hit of banned accounts (from those that I was using rotating proxies in the past), similar to a Google algo update. (Throughout all of these updates would be running anywhere from 500 to 2,000 accounts. )

I have heard this concept that video game companies do, where the don't actively ban users in real-time when the user is doing something against their TOS, instead they let them get away with that until they have an update, and then that user will get banned. For 2 reasons, #1 it provides a longer feedback loop so people can't figure out in real time how to game the system instead the wait is months and you think you got away with it, and #2 they work on changes and then release them in batches just like Google algo updates. I think Reddit does the same thing as this video game example.

The last update was Mid March of this year, that was the biggest one. All other updates I did not notice any change of the platform, just a lot of banned accounts. But with this update, they make a platform change that made the ability to link out in your comments much more difficult, which all of you should have noticed. As traffic went up in google last year for reddit and marketers jumped on the reddit bandwagon, a lot of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SW5eD4XYW4&t=31safter this update

Are you guys seeing the same thing? Also, if you share what you are seeing, share how many accounts you are running? Please share your insights, experience and knowledge you have about this.

I always try to prepare for these updates and reduce as many factors as possible, including:
- high quality dedicated residential proxy
- create accounts in-house
- anti detect browser
- 5:1 normal comment to linking comment ratio
- vary anchor texts
- vary links and domains

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Very informative thank you !

Do you think the main reason accounts get banned is because they are putting links in their comments ?

@redotaku18 I'm developing a similar tool, congrats on your progress, I just finished setting up a mail server to confirm accounts. Do you think the domain name's reputation of the email is taken into account when creating an account ?
How to do you go about creating the accounts ? Is it browser automation or do you make direct calls to reddit's urls ?

Omnesia said:

Very informative thank you !

Do you think the main reason accounts get banned is because they are putting links in their comments ?

@redotaku18 I'm developing a similar tool, congrats on your progress, I just finished setting up a mail server to confirm accounts. Do you think the domain name's reputation of the email is taken into account when creating an account ?
How to do you go about creating the accounts ? Is it browser automation or do you make direct calls to reddit's urls ?

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I'm really interested in how you've set up your mail server to confirm accounts. Could you share more details on the setup process?

Omnesia said:

Very informative thank you !

Do you think the main reason accounts get banned is because they are putting links in their comments ?

@redotaku18 I'm developing a similar tool, congrats on your progress, I just finished setting up a mail server to confirm accounts. Do you think the domain name's reputation of the email is taken into account when creating an account ?
How to do you go about creating the accounts ? Is it browser automation or do you make direct calls to reddit's urls ?

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I'm not sure yet. Right now all my accounts are getting banned but I think it may be because of selenium and not my domain. Will have to look into it further and see.

redotaku18 said:

I'm not sure yet. Right now all my accounts are getting banned but I think it may be because of selenium and not my domain. Will have to look into it further and see.

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Are your accounts getting banned even when you're posting normal, natural-looking comments without any links?

Jouko said:

I'm really interested in how you've set up your mail server to confirm accounts. Could you share more details on the setup process?

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Just a freeware SMTP server and then having it open the link in the emails using Python right now.

Jouko said:

Are your accounts getting banned even when you're posting normal, natural-looking comments without any links?

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Yes, as of right now. If you want to DM me your Discord we can talk more about this there. I'm not getting notified when people reply on here for some reason.

Omnesia said:

Very informative thank you !

Do you think the main reason accounts get banned is because they are putting links in their comments ?

@redotaku18 I'm developing a similar tool, congrats on your progress, I just finished setting up a mail server to confirm accounts. Do you think the domain name's reputation of the email is taken into account when creating an account ?
How to do you go about creating the accounts ? Is it browser automation or do you make direct calls to reddit's urls ?

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I think bans happen bc:
- links (too many, not good ratio's)
- bad user metrics (getting downvotes, getting reported, getting kicked out of subs etc)
- IP's (buying accounts from vendors that create accounts on a VPN, buying rotating IP proxies, buying low quality proxies)

Most often it is API-based software