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Holiday Gift Card Scam (billrolls)

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by Axelian, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. Axelian

    Axelian Regular Member

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    Email: fatttdots@gmail.com
    BHW username: billrolls
    Scammed amount: $35

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    There are gift card scammers around the holidays. I was contacted from one that was from BHW.

    What they will do is offer you a gift card to AMAZON or EBAY.

    They will offer you the gift card at 10% - 30% of what they cost, if the scammer is greedy they will say 50%.

    The offer is really good right? They will say that they develop gift card numbers, that they are a hacker and the gift card numbers will work.

    Well their thought pattern is 2 steps ahead of you. Sometimes if you get real antsy they will say pay 50% of the percent that they were offering you. 50% to get the gift card numbers and 50% after it works (supposedly).

    But they will convince you to use LR as a form of payment because of the no-chargebacks policy and if they are desperate they will get a PP account.

    Once you give them the money, they will sign off and give you nothing.

    It's almost like a test of greed. Remember, if the offer is too good to be true, It usually is.

    I kept logs. He appeared to me on August of 2009 looking for a design. He paid me and I designed for him, but we never finished. It was about $65 I believe. He left and didn't return till December of 2009.

    He then told me about the money for the design and told me to keep it because he was gone for so long because he was on a "world tour"...supposedly he had a band.

    Him telling me to keep the money was probably an "evening out" of his karma. Supposedly if you do bad deeds your good karma will sink. So you need to get above the surface by doing good deeds to get away from your "bad deeds" backfiring on you.

    As funny as it sounds, he lets time elapse before he responds back to you to make it seem like he's not in a rush. To make you believe that his methods are legit.

    I know how karma works. I filed a dispute. I'm not worried much. It was only $35.00 and it was a test of greed for me. I failed...but I won't ever again.

    BAN HIM NOW.

    I have chat logs dating back to 2009 if you need any more proof.
     
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    I am not your God but you can still worship me :cool:
    If this is all true, notice how he's trying to scam another member who needs some cash for Christmas of all things.
     
  4. BigBuddy

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    pm ed billroll, lets wait for his reply. If this one is real, I will send a christmas gift.
     
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  5. billrolls

    billrolls BANNED BANNED

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    this isnt my paypal first of all.
    second i can prove it to you that my email has been hacked and i no longer have access to it.according to the rules of this forum ..u shud not publicly post my name.
    so please remove the name of the email.
    other than that i can only war others not to deal with this guy .
    axelian..... Idont even remember you ....why shud i even scam u out of petty $35 randomly from a bhw..PLEASE i request you to take out the name.

    edit: FUCK !! axellian i remember u ...dude...do u even remotely think i could scam you dude...that too of $35....man..seriously sorry ..but this email of mine was long been hacked..and i have never used it since then....my current gmail is way different...i dont kow how i can prove it though..but i might have an email dated back months ag owhen i contacted gmail to acqire th e email again...
    thats all i can say....

    Axelian..pls take down my name if u can...i beelive in karma...too this is a public forum and i have been wrongfully STAMPED as a scammer.
     
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  6. BigBuddy

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    But bill, he is having the chat logs to prove himself. Further, your mail id may be hacked. But what abt the BHW user id? Did he contacted you thru pm or mail? or you have contacted him.
     
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    billrolls BANNED BANNED

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    I never contatced him via PM ..ASK him...i just came to BHW like after months ..you can check my logs..he may have logs dating back to 2009 but that doesnt mean i am scammer. i really say that at that time i had the email...It got hacked like 6 months ago ..and i have since then used ...other email address...WHY WOULD i come back from 2008 to scam for $35 right in the end of 2010...like dude..?? i am always on tours and i happen to login from different comps..i dont know how but my email was hacked..and i will stick to it.
     
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    In his original post, he is claiming you have contacted him. Did he completed his job? May be you have come late.
     
  9. billrolls

    billrolls BANNED BANNED

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    check my PM history..or he can prove it by posting a screenshot..i never contacted anyone from this forum for the last month ...wTF ? liar
     
  10. billrolls

    billrolls BANNED BANNED

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    see guys. i am patiently answering all the queries and i would like to sort this out myelf.
    but please dont post bullshit here. just stay outta here. uguys just beleive anyone and start taking sides.
    I KNOW I HAVENT SCAMMED ANYONE 100% . I WIll stick to this .[ copywriting skills ]
     
  11. BigBuddy

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    To axelian, I could not get you one thing from your original post. Do you got scammed for gift cards by billroll? or for designing work? If its for gift cards, should explain, how you contacted him again for the gift cards.

    axelian is offline now, let him post his reply here. Till then, this will be in hold.
     
  12. billrolls

    billrolls BANNED BANNED

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    the designing work was paid for by me back in early 2009 . i went on a holiday and forgot about it . it was longtime after i contacted him and i told him i dont need it anymore and since I kept him waiting u can keep those $ 69 .
    fast forward june/j luy 2010 . my email is hacked .after lots of f ailed attempts i give up.
    fast forward more : THIS TH READ POPS UP !!!! FTW ... i dont know hat happened between thes e 6 months ..but it sure for hell it wasnt me.
     
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    billrolls BANNED BANNED

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    its 2 am here. will check this thread tomorrow. wiaint 10 mins if bigbuddy wanna ask me anything or verify anything
     
  14. BigBuddy

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    So its not your PP id? The name in the PP screennshot image is not yours?
     
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    billrolls BANNED BANNED

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    on what basis will they decide if i dont justify myself ? right ?
     
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    billrolls BANNED BANNED

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    nope . that is not my paypal id . if u want i can stil lshow you my real paypal id . wit hthe name that was posted .
     
  17. BigBuddy

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    Fine bill.

    Now i need to know only one thing from axelian. Apart from PP screenshot, what proof you have to say that bill scammed you.

    Any chat logs dealing with giftcards buy? any pms from bill regarding this? I dont wanna see 2009 chat logs, as it is totally irrelevant to this thread.
     
  18. billrolls

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    I also urge axelian to contact me on my real + another MSN : fatttdots@hotmail.com .
    if he has any queries or disputes or suggestions. he can contact me there.
    I hope u have a nice day . and get back your money . File a dispute against the scammer and tell paypal what happened . i hope they will payback the money.
    than you bigbuddy for co-operating so seamlessly and giving your binding opinion about this.
    will see updates tomorrow.
     
  19. Axelian

    Axelian Regular Member

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    I just gave all the chat logs to you in a PM.

    The only reason I know that the username is billrolls is because I asked him back in 2009 who his username on bhw is.

    I then searched your name on bhw and found you (or a hacker) in a post talking about the gift cards again.

    People from bhw...even trusted members switch to the darkside so quickly. So I just thought thats what happened.

    If your email was hacked then change your password.

    I just hope it doesn't happen again.

    All I can give is the evidence that I have. If the PP isn't yours...then it's cool. I am not trying to be the bad guy here. Just alerting and telling people to watch out.
     
  20. BigBuddy

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    So axelian, you contacted him through chat and not thru pms.

    So if someone in chat using my name or any reputed members name for selling giftcards, you will pay them. And if they scam you, you will open shitlist thread against them?

    I could not take this chat logs as solid proof to say bill is a scammer.

    But final thing..

    To bill, do you made that post regarding giftcards in that thread?

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ny-way-make-some-quick-bucks.html#post2342079