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[HELP] Xrumer spam complaint

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by deef, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. deef

    deef Junior Member

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    Hello,
    
    We've received a complaint that your **** server is sending out forum spam to ***.***.**.  Please check your server and make sure your aren't sending any attacks to that server.
    
    Please respond within 24 hours and tell us what you have found.
    
    Thank You,
    --  **** Abuse Lead/Systems Engineer *** 
    What do I write back to them ? That I did'nt know that xrumer was spamming ?

    lol..

    I wish to stay with the host, becausse it's a bit of shit to change always from host :(

    cheers,

    deef
     
  2. links

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    maybe say you made posts that you feel contributed to the forum, and you are allowed links on forums as forums are for users to write whatever they want, which is why its not illegal to post alsorts of spam crap on them - tell them that what your doing is legal, and they can google search it

    i had to do this when i was blog commenting and didnt use an i.p.. they let it go hopefully you are as lucky
     
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  3. gimme4free

    gimme4free Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It's also legal to send emails to people, the method that is used can make something illegal though. I'm not sure about laws on spamming forums though.
     
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  4. links

    links Regular Member

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    emailing opt ins is fully legal

    emailing none opt in lists is illegal in all "developed" countries

    in some countries, even harvesting email lists is illegal


    however, spamming forums is legal in most countries still
     
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  5. freqout

    freqout Regular Member

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    This is not the case, unless you are saying the US is not a developed country. Maybe can spam makes emailing non opt in users harder, but it doesnt make it illegal as long as you follow certain steps, also can spam preempts all local state laws.
     
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  6. links

    links Regular Member

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    damn :( poor us in the uk

    no, i didnt realise it was legal in the US
     
  7. deef

    deef Junior Member

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    Ik know that sending emails can give you problems... But I don't wish to explain that I did it with xrumer...

    Do you think they will buy it when I said I have posted my own there ?

    The text that I posted was a bit spammy .. lol.. so I don't think it contributed to the forum :)

    cheers,

    deef
     
  8. jimbobo2779

    jimbobo2779 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    pretty sure we have the same rulings as the CAN spam thing states,i.e we can still spam if we give them the chance to remove themselves from a list with a single click and you have some sort of policy etc.

    Read up on the laws Im sure we can still do it here, so long as we provide all the information and a get out clause.

    Jim
     
  9. deef

    deef Junior Member

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    Hello,
    
    I have made a post to the forum, and there I was allowed to place a link.  Forums are IMHO for users to write whatever they want, so I did'nt think I have done somthing that's wrong.  I shall not post annymore on that forum.
    They have even deleted my post... so there is no problem annymore I guess.
    
    Cheers,
    
    deef
    I have followed you :) So I hope they buy it :)

    :pcguru:

    Thanks are added :)
     
  10. cheesecake

    cheesecake Regular Member

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    is that notice from your RDA server?
     
  11. betster77

    betster77 Regular Member

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    can spam gives you a "one shot" to a non-optin inbox provided you follow certain requirements, however you must also read the TOS of your host which sometimes require optin or double optins. I agree with the posts above to look into the law, but also llok into your hosts' terms of use
     
  12. gimme4free

    gimme4free Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I think that everyone should have a chance to read the rules on forum spamming before they start:

     
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    tonlilaz Executive VIP Premium Member

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    well, what were you doing exactly? were you spamming every thread in the forum? were you making 1 or 2 posts? were you flooding the board?

    you also might want to ask which forum it was so you can avoid them in the future....

    instead of explaining, you weren't intending to spam but to be involved with the forum...that the administrator mistook your enthusiasm for posting?
     
  14. cooooookies

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    What I would do:

    Tell them that your server was hacked, that you are very sorry and that it won't happen again. Is the server in your country? Be careful then.

    But what can happen indeed - happened to me: stopforumspam.com....

    You will possibly find your server ip on that page :)

    And that was the point when I decided to use proxies/vpn only, regardless if it is illegal or not. What I can recommend BTW is VPN with shared IP. But yes, it is slow and you cannot fully use your bandwidth.
     
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    Yeah, use proxies to be safer with xrumer.
    Just tell them either your server was hacked or it was someone you were hosting running xrumer, and that it won't happen again. Continue with proxies.
     
  16. freqout

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    Yes, you need to provide an unsub link, address and phone number. More complex than that but that is the basics.
     
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    freqout Regular Member

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    I doubt it, most is pretty specific to email. They made it specific due to the nature of US law, if they didnt limit it a packet, IM, message on a private forum could be considered spam.
     
  18. googlemonster

    googlemonster Supreme Member

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    tell em to fck off :D
     
  19. deef

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    I got this reaction ....

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    >Hello, 
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    >Thanks for responding... so was it just a single post you made? 
    Gonna tell them this:

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    Hello,
    
    It was a single post on that forum yeah...  I don't even remember on what topic it was.. but it was with a link in it to one off my sites to becomme some link rank to my site.
    
    Cheers,
    
    deef
    Hope they will buy it :) It was only one post on that forum... did'nt mention the other 40.000 forums I have spammed the same time :) Hope there will not come anymore complaigns .. but with this success rate .. I doubt it ...