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[HELP]How much to charge??[HELP]

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Elliott1992, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. Elliott1992

    Elliott1992 Junior Member

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    Right, i'm thinking about starting a local offline website creating business. The only question i really have is. Is it ok, if i just create them a wordpress blog, with an free theme for it?

    I'm not sure whether or not this will be a good idea as I am mainly targeting people that are self employed etc. Also if i am doing this then how much you say to charge (not including the hosting and domain name etc) but for me to include most of the needed information on the site??

    Thank you Elliott
     
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  2. Elliott1992

    Elliott1992 Junior Member

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    If anybody could help, would be hugely appreciated
     
  3. cloakndagger

    cloakndagger Power Member

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    I wouldn't recommend it.You won't get much of a name(or business) because wordpress free themes don't really have much style.
    As for the info you get the client to write what he thinks of his business,maybe change it slightly but this way they are always happy with the copy(because they wrote it themselves).In fact if your smart it is usually a case of copy and paste to set the site up.
    Get them to give you some images and create a photoshop action to automatically resize them in the folder then upload.

    I couldn't give you even a rough price to do this for a free theme because I would never do it.I always buy legit themes for support and any updates and to keep my client right.I think charging for a free theme is pretty close to charging for unlicensed one.

    In the end it's up to you.I always a take deposit,which gives me money and covers any theme purchase.I prefer they host it but give them an affiliate link to get their hosting so there is a little something in it for me but if the sites gets hacked I don't have the responsibility of sorting it unpaid.

    If it's wordpress buy something like backup buddy,wp-twin and sell them a back of the site once it's complete,it's an add on service.
    I usually send a letter 2 weeks after the site is live,I don't so it with html sites because databases don't matter with those but wordpress is different.I always use a test domain to make sure the backup went well and show the client their website on a test domain so they know (and I know) the backup is good.

    Most businesses go for the back up option when you mention a little about hacking and the fact they'd need to pay for a new website if anything happens,again another reason I rarely host client domains.
     
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  4. Elliott1992

    Elliott1992 Junior Member

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    Ahh right ok, Thank you for the help :) I will definitely go with using bought wordpress themes. Have you got any idea where good ones are sold? Also How much are you charging for each site that you sell?

    So you suggest this then.
    1) get the buyer to specify what he wants + Deposit
    2) buy a wordpress theme (with the deposit) and upload
    3) get the customer to type what he wants to be in the website.
    4) update website
    5) get money
    6) get backup and sell to the customer

    Thank you for your time and effort for posting back. Has been a real help so far
     
  5. cloakndagger

    cloakndagger Power Member

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    I use themeforest dot net(have a look around there are LOADS of great themes),massive choice,if you're looking at wordpress sites they are all around $35,html sites are about $17.
    I'm in the UK,I charge between £250-£350 for a normal sized site (about page,gallery,services 3-5 page site).If you're in the US or somewhere that deals in $$ that's around $450-500ish.

    I advise you download all the good wordpress plug ins like allinoneseo,google maps plug ins etc.Upload them and set up allinoneseo to be optimized for the clients niche.
    Then once you've been paid in full bring up the subject of seo(it's a natural upsell anyway),I basically say you have a decent site now,do you want more people to see it because right now the only people who will see are the people you tell.

    Don't undersell yourself,when it comes to a website most businesses will be happy ot pay for something that looks good.
    I have seen plenty of websites for £60 offers in the UK but they are very basic sites and the look is like something from the 90's.Yell produce some of the worst looking sites and still to this day use the same theme over and over and they ask something like £1k a site at least I believe.

    Don't show your clients the themeforest site or they see the $35 tag and think they can do it themselves.Buy 3-4 great looking themes and basically push them first.

    If you have any more Q's feel free to ask,it's better to ask on this thread so if anyone else is on the same boat it may help them as well.

    I suggest you get started asap,you learn very fast when you launch yourself in the deep end.
    All the best with it.

    Some other tips lol.

    Keep all your plug ins in one folder for quick uploading
    in all honest push mobile sites,it's going to get very big ,it's ground floor opportunity right now

    My own website for selling websites is pretty much an automated landing page,there is no telephone number but a contact form,it filters out timewasters who'll happily chat for half and hour and not buy a site.
    I also have 3 live sites as examples.
    e.g this site only £250 ,they see the site as it will be,less of course,there info on it.
    When you get an enquiry,they are genuinely interested because they've gone to the trouble of completing the form.
    So you ask what site did you like,do you have photos you can use for the slider and gallery,how would you describe your business to other people.These are set up questions basically it's making them visualize the site in their mind so they place the content themselves within the theme.

    I'll happily edit any photos for the front page slider so they look better because once you get going a wordpress site can be set up fully in under an hour but I place a coming soon holder for a day or so so they think it's more work than it is.

    I got into this because someone I knew needed site and I didn't do them at the time.The got someone who did a good job,nice design,I thought they were very talented,charged £500 for basic site.2 months later I saw the site on templatemonster,all he had done was edit it.
     
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