This place is a ghost-town compared to what it was just a few months ago... Is there really THAT much less money to be had through black hatting, or are people just getting lazy? I'm a little disgusted, frankly. Rather than discuss new tactics and try to INVENT new ways to combat updates it looks like many folks have just given up. I think part of it is also that the "quick buck" scammers who were trying to sell/rep/affiliate crappy me-too softwares are not gone since their software has been crushed. But even still... this place shouldn't be THIS quiet.