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Has anyone actually been caught cloaking...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mikecarquote, Feb 10, 2009.

  1. mikecarquote

    mikecarquote Newbie

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    Particularly by the big G? I'm just curious, if someone serves up different content to the big G, how would they know?
     
  2. Jagged55

    Jagged55 Power Member

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    If you have cloaked, you have been caught :)

    If Googlebot gets redirected, they will spider the page the human is suppose to see. Eventually they boot the cloaked site and you start over with a new domain.
     
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    predayshus Junior Member

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    HA... I second that. If you are going to cloak then you will be caught. Big G isn't going to show up on your doorstep but they will kill your traffic. no Worries, move on.
     
  4. battman323

    battman323 Regular Member

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    There are lots of ways to cloak. It depends on how you do it. There are ways to cloak that Google simply doesn't have any current means to undo.
     
  5. deef

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    Never been caught ... :)

    I guess it's becausse I never cloacked ?
     
  6. anderson

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    yeah some media bot that google used couple years ago, caught some of my cloaks.

    messed up a couple myself with interlinking (linkfarm)

    but with new method and system i develop, i'm running over 1000 cloaks, without any problem for years now ;-)
     
  7. TheLoser

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    What about G toolbars installed on folks machines. Shouldn't be too hard for G to checksum what a person sees in their browser, send it to the big G and validate it with the checksum the page is indexed as. I've noticed many cloaked sites that are still indexed so I guess they haven't deployed such a feature at the present.

    Thoughts?
     
  8. Jagged55

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    It could be a factor in it all but for me it was all just a cat and mouse game. You do what you do until you get caught and you move on. Sometimes G kicks them out and they get traffic from MSN and Yahoo. I still have cloaked sites indexed that are a couple years old...go figure.
     
  9. brad1001

    brad1001 Junior Member Premium Member

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    Great point! Luckily for us, lots of webmasters use geoIP scripts to display ads and even text based on visitor country-of-origin or even state/county. This would throw lots of false positives, so any simple checksum method would fail miserably. Also, imagine if a particular page had been updated recently, that would throw false positives too.

    Currently, G has no automatic way to detect cloaked content - but it can be pick-up redirects via its toolbar when the PR changes.

     
  10. multicolorguru

    multicolorguru Junior Member

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    I usually get my cloaked sites banned within 2-4 weeks depending on the cloaking technique.

    btw. google has lots of automated ways to parse about everything. i

    f cloaking is serverside, well good luck finding the gazillion google bots ;) (guess what they dont all have the useragent "googlebot").

    Oh yeah my point:
    Who Cares?? It's not about not getting banned, it's just about making enough money BEFORE getting banned. 2 weeks is more than enough for me to pay for the expenses+ some.
     
  11. brad1001

    brad1001 Junior Member Premium Member

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    Content cloaking using an accurate IP-bot database is the way to go. From my experience and many fellow cloakers, we've got sites indexed, ranking, and generating traffic very quickly and lasting in the SERPs a very long time - I've got many that are over 18 months old. But, I only do content cloaking and no form of redirection!

     
  12. cooooookies

    cooooookies Senior Member

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    Yes, making the same experience. When you have a good bot base, not reason to fear G.

    I am doing it now vice versa and am targetting blogs with cloaked content. But redirecting to CB sites makes for me currently much more money than waiting for a visitor to click. My autoblogs are looking halfway legit and I really have no explanation why people are not interested in advertisement. Moreover, my content is related to the keyword I promoted the site for, but the ads are possibly much more targeted.
     
  13. a0rta

    a0rta Regular Member

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    I was just about to say the same thing. Are there anyone cloaking who haven't got caught? I wouldn't cloak my WH sites (and for that reason they are WH and not BH I guess) but only things I use temporarely and nonthing I will be to upset if I lost.