[Guide] How to Buy Services That Don't Suck

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This article will probably make me sound like a mean jerk. Fair enough, that's not too far from the truth. Overall I've been having a pleasant time on the marketplace. I've found a couple of fine services there. Lots of crappy ones too, but that's the price of learning.

More than telling you what to buy, this guide will help you avoid some beginner mistakes. It won't give you a 100% protection against poor services, as there will always be things beyond your control (that's why I won't recommend any specific seller here). But it may help you identify some shady behaviors.

You can just use it as a checklist - most of it is really just common sense, but putting it together may just save you $$$.

1. The Golden Rule: You get what you pay for

Nobody will give you 10k quality links/followers/whatever for $10. They may call it High Quality, High Authority, Unique, Hand-Crafted, Secret Sauce or Godzilla x Power Rangers. Bullshit.

Anything with big numbers, you can probably achieve with free/cheap tools. Don't waste your money.

PBNs at $2/link? Try to even get an actual decent article for that price. It just doesn't check out. Don't get fooled by the price tag and overblown descriptions.

Big ambitions? You won't have it cheap. ESPECIALLY when cheap seems to be the seller's main sales argument. I rarely look at anything under $100.

2. Big discounts, great bait, red flag


Here's a basic rule for you: the true value of a service is, at most, equal to its announced price minus the biggest discount you can find on the topic. 80% on a $200 package? The thing is worth $40 at best.

There also seems to be a correlation between high discounts and poor service. Those big numbers are suspicious as hell. There may be good Samaritans around here offering honest price reductions, but be careful. The few good services I have used here had very small discounts, if any.

3. Don't rely excessively on reviews and screenshots

Here's another rule of the thumb: the quality of a service is at best that described in the most negative review you will find. I've made the mistake to go for services which had dozens of positive reviews and only 1 or 2 bad ones - those negative ones were spot on every time. Read through threads carefully. Some OPs like to drown comments under super-long and repeated posts.

But why do they get good reviews at all? Many sellers give extra discounts/links/etc. to buyers leaving nice reviews. As for unhappy customers, I assume they just count their losses and move on, as they don't want to be seen as picky buyers. So much for me.

Sometimes, moderator reviews can also raise flags if you read between the lines. Their reviews are usually honest, they just find nice ways to mention the negative points. "decent for the price", "readable", "good for churn and burn projects" > Meh, not outright scam but nothing special
"Could use some improvements" > Run like hell

And remember that review copies are generally the very best the provider can offer. Unless you see some very enthusiastic reaction, there's generally not much going on.

Sometimes, sellers will show screenshots of the great results they get for their clients. They may be real, they may be photoshopped, they may be a screen of an edited HTML page. You have no way to know for sure. If you see anything off, like text that doesn't fit in or important metrics hidden even on just a few of the screens, run away.

4. Be wary of the truth stretchers

Just because a seller claims they'll give you something doesn't mean they will.
"Native content" at $0.50/1,000 words? Dream on it.
"Manual content"? Slightly edited spun text. By a non-native.
"Passed copyscape"? Random spun sentences patched up together.
"Relevant image"? Whatever came first on their stock image site.
"High quality PBN" at $2/link? Hope you like the company of porn and gambling sites on a generic Wordpress site.

Really, just use your common sense. If you can't normally get something as good as announced for that price offered, you're being lied to.

5. Quality, not quantity & 6. The more targeted and exclusive the better


Such a platitude, I know. 10k links, 100k followers, etc. That shouts spam all over the place. Quality beats quantity hands down.

"We accept all sites". No thanks. I don't want to share links with porn sites. I don't want 10k fake followers. I don't want links on 300 PBNs with spun content, boring templates, broken contact pages and a horrible neighborhood.

I want to be on a smaller number of great real websites with real visitors, targeted for my specific industry and only accepting high-quality and relevant articles. Always go industry-specific. Check samples and make sure everything is genuine.

7. Trust no one but yourself

In the end, you need to trust your gut. There are traps all over the place - sometimes they are very subtle. If you don't see anything outright wrong but still have the feeling that something's fishy, move on.

People may give you recommendations in good faith, but you never know whether YOU will get the same treatment. Methods stop working, PBNs go down, sites turn their links to nofollow, providers stop giving a damn. Things happen.

So how do you choose a service? Leave the price out of the equation for a moment. Trim down the service list using the advice above until you have a couple of candidates that seem to offer something made for YOU rather than anybody who'll shell out a few bucks. Then take a leap of faith.
 
Unfortunately so many are going to be seduced by snake oil cheap wins. That might ultimately be good for the ones who adhere to no. 7 ;)
 
If you PM the sellers you can get an idea of response times and customer service. Also look at WHO has purchased from them... if people with good reps bought in then it might be worth a look. There are a few people here, who when I see them buy something I take a second look. And there are some who I know are idiots and I ignore even their reviews.

-ThopHayt
 
Plus make sure you know what you are doing. I see people making random choice to go for big package or small one. Dont keep a thinking of higher price means better service and lower price means bad service..
 
The title can easily be:
How NOT to be a newbie when ordering seo services
or
How to use marketplace for spam or for long term projects
 
Spot on. I have bought more crappy links that I can count, and I guess that is the price of learning. For beginners with $200 or so to invest in SEO. They might find it impossible to pick one out of the 100s out there. And that again is the price for learning.

Anyone who skip Mod review, even when it is screaming 'for churn & burn'. I don't know what to say.
 
Dude, this is spot on, I've been through several providers here, most of which either couldn't provide me with what I needed, or outright lied about their services. I'd love to put money down, but I have to have a working product to pay for
 
Oh what a lovely thread. Thumbs up!

Especially part number one:

1. The Golden Rule: You get what you pay for

Use your head and you will do just fine. Does it sound too good to be true? If yes, then you are getting ripped off, simple.

 
If you PM the sellers you can get an idea of response times and customer service. Also look at WHO has purchased from them... if people with good reps bought in then it might be worth a look. There are a few people here, who when I see them buy something I take a second look. And there are some who I know are idiots and I ignore even their reviews.

-ThopHayt
I actually replied on a content writing thread and asked questions that their sales thread said they would provide. Their sales thread said "written by industry experts" which seemed a bit too good to be true because if I needed an article on heaters for example, would an industry expert on heaters write my article? Here is what I'm talking about.

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However, the OP reported my genuine question and said "I don't want to do business with you" when I simply asked if the content was actually written by industry experts. To keep the marketplace clean, I believe that sellers shouldn't be able to make these claims AND mods shouldn't be able to delete comments on threads JUST because the seller didn't want that there, since it removes the transparency of the seller-buyer relationship.

Just my few cents.
 
Can easily relate to your post. Click bait titles + Repeated posting of Super Great results lol.
 
always ask for the samples of their work before buying, some may even show you their real network, try to check the keywords in the post, from there you might be able to find out whether it's effective or not
 
Oh what a lovely thread. Thumbs up!

Especially part number one:

1. The Golden Rule: You get what you pay for

Use your head and you will do just fine. Does it sound too good to be true? If yes, then you are getting ripped off, simple.


Indeed, most of the post shoud boil down to common sense, but people get distracted by pricing.

Nothing worse when you see a designers / content writers sales graphic that actually has typos and errors on it.

If you're selling one important thing to remember is; You Only Get ONE Chance To Make A First Impression.
 
However, the OP reported my genuine question and said "I don't want to do business with you" when I simply asked if the content was actually written by industry experts.

You're a little one sided there but I'm not going to get into that.

Any business has the right to not do business with anyone they choose.

That is one benefit of being in business for yourself as you do not have to sell to someone you choose not to, nor buy from anyone you choose not to buy from.

I've turned down clients in the past in almost every business I have owned.
 
You're a little one sided there but I'm not going to get into that.

Any business has the right to not do business with anyone they choose.

That is one benefit of being in business for yourself as you do not have to sell to someone you choose not to, nor buy from anyone you choose not to buy from.

I've turned down clients in the past in almost every business I have owned.
Not meaning to attack or anyone,
What do you have to say about people claiming things on their sales thread that aren't actually true? Is it okay to have that?

btw, I'm not attacking you or anything, I'm just asking a question
 
Oh what a lovely thread. Thumbs up!

Especially part number one:

1. The Golden Rule: You get what you pay for

Use your head and you will do just fine. Does it sound too good to be true? If yes, then you are getting ripped off, simple.


basically yes but i have bought real bad expensive service as well ....... soooo
 
well, In 2016 I purchased from 6 sellers.
from 1 to 10$ per post. even got review samples for I think 20$ per post.
nearly all of them failed my expectations.
see? and thats marketing.
 
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