Guide - Duplicate Content - Myths & Facts
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tomjerryhacker
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Good debate
My 2 cents.. Just try it the harder way n learn which works for you.
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My 2 cents.. Just try it the harder way n learn which works for you.
op please check ur pm
ScrapeBoss
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Thanks for your very educative post. The issues raised by you could really go a long way in helping people online in how to create content for websites. Without good knowledge like this, it is possible to just be wasting time creating content that would not help in search engine ranking. Thanks
Concerning the issue of grammar mistakes, I think the search engines cannot perfectly detect and penalize sites having grammatically incorrect content. If the search engines were good at doing that, then the Google translation tool should give 100% correct grammatical structure when translating languages. I have sites with thousands of pages built with translated content. They all have grammar mistakes but they can still be understood by an average reader. On each of those sites, I get an average of 1,200 unique visitors through Google per day with an average page view of 1.6
Human languages are very complex and I think human technology has not been able to detect when a sentence structure is not well formed.
In terms of languages, what I feel the search engines can do is detecting a content that is just full of words without any linking words (preposition) to give an idea of a meaningful sentence. For instance, if a IM site has an article like this:
"adsense ebay internet amazon marketing podcast money computer software clickbank"
The sentence above has no meaning and the search engines can easily classify that as keyword stuffing.
Now compare that with a sentence like this:
"I like made adsense when they you go computer with clickbank through podcast and check amazon with internet marketing"
The second sentence has grammatical mistakes. The search engines will not penalize the websites having this content because they cannot really fish out grammatical mistakes. This is my own opinion based on my experience with various websites that I have.
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madoctopus
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No! Grammar correction tools exist since the 80's. They were not great back then, though usable, but now they are. Detecting incorrect grammar in English is easy and is not that related to detecting properly translated text. The natural language processing algorithms for grammar checking are not a novelty and do a very good job.
Also, as i said, it is a matter of statistics. Google obviously can't have very hard limits so if you have something like 5% mistakes you're ok, but if you have 80% mistakes that's a problem. Also, Google uses extensively n-grams and unusual n-grams found in a large percentage on a site is an indicator of potential garbage content.
In the end, domain trust also has a role here so if you add some garbage content on Wikipedia or a 2 year old site with healthy backlinks, you won't run into any problems.
madoctopus
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You build, or if you can't code, you outsource the building of a scraper and run it every day.
Unless you want it to be generic and work on all sites and do advanced stuff like extract the new post or do a HTML diff, it can be coded in a couple of hours for $20-50 on freelancing sites.
You just build a scraper in PHP using cURL and run it every day using a linux cron job. You can have it email you or even automatically trigger an action.
There is also a free windows program that stays in systray and detects if a page changed or if a keyword appeared on the page, but I don't remember it's name. Try googling "web page change alert software".
madoctopus
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For some reason I can't edit the main post, so I will post this here. I hope it will still be seen by people even though it is lower in the thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hSoXutuj0g&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hSoXutuj0g&feature=channel
redstone.1337
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I have no words for this post. This is an eye-opener. Widespread of such kind of misinformation is cluttering the web with unique but more harmful content. Google wants to show up diversity in results.
So, how about replacing off one url from SERPs with another on same domain? Like if a squidoo lens is ranking on #1 or say page 1, then what can be our approach to replace that lens with ours? Now, since Go0gle doesn't likes duplicate content on same domain, so we're going to have unique content with good on-page optimization. And for backlinks, we will give it some boost with other web 2.0 properties but this time with duplicate content (not one from our lens which we want to rank, from some other site), sb blast and edu/gov backlinks too on both level.
You guys said about Domain Authority, its fine. But does Go0gle gives any link authority too, like suppose a lens is ranking #1 for last 6 months and a new lens targeting the same keyword with good onpage and all other factors pops up, will google give more love to that 6 month old lens or both of them will be treated equal for being on same domain? And of course replace that lens with ours in SERPs for being better?
So, how about replacing off one url from SERPs with another on same domain? Like if a squidoo lens is ranking on #1 or say page 1, then what can be our approach to replace that lens with ours? Now, since Go0gle doesn't likes duplicate content on same domain, so we're going to have unique content with good on-page optimization. And for backlinks, we will give it some boost with other web 2.0 properties but this time with duplicate content (not one from our lens which we want to rank, from some other site), sb blast and edu/gov backlinks too on both level.
You guys said about Domain Authority, its fine. But does Go0gle gives any link authority too, like suppose a lens is ranking #1 for last 6 months and a new lens targeting the same keyword with good onpage and all other factors pops up, will google give more love to that 6 month old lens or both of them will be treated equal for being on same domain? And of course replace that lens with ours in SERPs for being better?
madoctopus
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Build 5-10 small lenses about the same topic and link from them to the main topic. Contact other lens owners that have similar lenses and give them a link from one of your satellite lenses in exchange of a link from their lens towards your main lens. Contact the guy who is ranking #1 and give him 2 links from 2 of your satellite lenses in exchange of a link from his ranking lens to your main lens. Aside from that, just build external links (d0f0llow).
That's it. Do that until you rank higher than him. However i don't see the point of investing time and resources in a Squidoo lens or any other page you don't control. What happens if tomorrow they go bankrupt or something. You loose all your work. Always get your hosting and domain for sites you rely on to make money. Squidoo and web2.0 sites should be used just for link building.
garysbasem3nt
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I have a question though regarding non-original content on multiple sites. I'm working for a client that's company has a personalize social network for it's fans. The social network is fairly active - at least a couple thousand users - and each one of these sites is given a subdomain.
Each of these subdomains can be given a custom URL if purchased - but essentially it's much like creating a blogger or wordpress.
Now the dev had the genius idea of publishing all "corporate/company" blog posts on everyone of these subdomains as well. When first learning of this, I told them it was a terrible idea - and that it may even penalize the main blog. It looks like you're saying that's not the case? I still think they should just link back to the main blog and discontinue publishing these posts on all of these additional subdomains (and for those that purchased domain names - unique websites).
What do you guys think?
Each of these subdomains can be given a custom URL if purchased - but essentially it's much like creating a blogger or wordpress.
Now the dev had the genius idea of publishing all "corporate/company" blog posts on everyone of these subdomains as well. When first learning of this, I told them it was a terrible idea - and that it may even penalize the main blog. It looks like you're saying that's not the case? I still think they should just link back to the main blog and discontinue publishing these posts on all of these additional subdomains (and for those that purchased domain names - unique websites).
What do you guys think?
Cortexmoza
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Hey guy, Thank you for this useful posting. Thanks a lot.
sitecontact
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Great post, thank a lot
jharr53301
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