Greendot card and ssn?
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shaddelick
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I havent found a way around this for greendot, the only way would be to commit ID theft or paying someone for ID theft. It would be awesome to find a way around this though
Xtreme-Dangerous
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dnt mind my this post...bt i really cldnt find how to create a new thread ...cldnt find any link for that..please guide me...
charlietree
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Look towards the bottom of the forum there should be a link to a new thread on the left side underneath the board choices.
Also, If you are worried about them sharing your ssn with Paypal I would just yet. I have not heard anything about it at least.
shaddelick
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Lol people really do this, read a thread in another forum and seemed like a lot of people do that. They were sharing stories of bums in there town and how they pay them for there credentials. One person even made passports using the bums info and his picture with the bums help smh. Hate to refer to people as bums though cus no one is really a bum, they are just in a different situation then us. I am curious how it turns out for you
shaddelick
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Is it still ID theft when they willingly give the info?
openaidbh
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I think then it's just fraud.
shaddelick
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Yes, i agree, like most blackhat methods theres fraud involved, maybe more then the usual
conrad
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false for the millionth+ time.. blackhat does not mean fraud.
shaddelick
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I dissagree, all blackhat has a degree of fraud, even whitehat IMO .
conrad
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sorry but your wrong. I dont think you understand what blackhat or whitehat even is then.. or better explain how they are fraud
openaidbh
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He said "Like most blackhat". Blackhat isn't defined as always concerning fraud. Sometimes BH is a simple matter of breaking a website's ToS (not fraud) or say, building backlinks. Or unsolicited bulk mailing.
Blackhat is just circumventing (or outright breaking) the rules. Occasionally those rules are laws. Occasionally those laws are about fraud.
Blackhat is just circumventing (or outright breaking) the rules. Occasionally those rules are laws. Occasionally those laws are about fraud.
shaddelick
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Well i dont think you understand the definitions of fraud
openaidbh
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Legal definition of common law fraud according to US law, paraphrased by Wikipedia:
"Black Hat", on the other hand, has a much more subjective definition. In my experience, how "blackhat" something is to an individual is based on how they believe the action relates to their perception of a community's moral compass. Whether or not it goes against their own is irrelevant, since many people know something is blackhat but are perfectly comfortable with it. Let's take blackhat SEO, for example. Some consider BHSEO to be any sort of non-organic linkbuilding whatsoever. Anything you do aside from provide quality content is blackhat. This is because they believe that the majority of the world wants to "play fair", and that those who build synthetic links aren't doing that. Then there are others (myself included) that believe that linkbuilding is perfectly okay (SEO is a competition, after all) and that whoever can do better active SEO than the other guys deserve to be at the top of Google; negative SEO, however, is something I'd consider blackhat. I think that the majority of SEO's and businesses believe that it's a form of corporate sabotage and is against the "rules of engagement" on the SEO battlefield. Still others see it as "just business" and don't consider NSEO blackhat, but DDOS'ing a competitor's server is.
Like I said, what is "blackhat" refers to a combination of how you feel about something, morally, and how you think the community feels about it. Trying to write rules about what is and isn't blackhat is as futile as trying to say whether abortion is acceptable or not (and don't bring that example up again because I am NOT opening that can of worms on this thread).
"Black Hat", on the other hand, has a much more subjective definition. In my experience, how "blackhat" something is to an individual is based on how they believe the action relates to their perception of a community's moral compass. Whether or not it goes against their own is irrelevant, since many people know something is blackhat but are perfectly comfortable with it. Let's take blackhat SEO, for example. Some consider BHSEO to be any sort of non-organic linkbuilding whatsoever. Anything you do aside from provide quality content is blackhat. This is because they believe that the majority of the world wants to "play fair", and that those who build synthetic links aren't doing that. Then there are others (myself included) that believe that linkbuilding is perfectly okay (SEO is a competition, after all) and that whoever can do better active SEO than the other guys deserve to be at the top of Google; negative SEO, however, is something I'd consider blackhat. I think that the majority of SEO's and businesses believe that it's a form of corporate sabotage and is against the "rules of engagement" on the SEO battlefield. Still others see it as "just business" and don't consider NSEO blackhat, but DDOS'ing a competitor's server is.
Like I said, what is "blackhat" refers to a combination of how you feel about something, morally, and how you think the community feels about it. Trying to write rules about what is and isn't blackhat is as futile as trying to say whether abortion is acceptable or not (and don't bring that example up again because I am NOT opening that can of worms on this thread).
shaddelick
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I am taking the definition of fraud from dictionary.com
fraud
   [frawd] Show IPA
noun
1.
deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.
2.
a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.
3.
any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.
4.
a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.
Just about all blackhat and some white hat involve fraud. From clickjacking to a simple email submit consist of a form of fraud. Somewhere down the line in most marketing there is a for of fraud IMO.
However, i am a unique case, i take fraud even further. I take a step back and see fraud involved throughout our daily lives. From having to pay income tax to paying a cellphone bill, to buying toys or even food... Somewhere someone is getting screwed Lol. Maybe fraud is all a point of view? I dont know, but personally I see fraud everywhere
fraud
   [frawd] Show IPA
noun
1.
deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.
2.
a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.
3.
any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.
4.
a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.
Just about all blackhat and some white hat involve fraud. From clickjacking to a simple email submit consist of a form of fraud. Somewhere down the line in most marketing there is a for of fraud IMO.
However, i am a unique case, i take fraud even further. I take a step back and see fraud involved throughout our daily lives. From having to pay income tax to paying a cellphone bill, to buying toys or even food... Somewhere someone is getting screwed Lol. Maybe fraud is all a point of view? I dont know, but personally I see fraud everywhere
openaidbh
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That's fraud according dictionary.com, not any actual legal reference text. In other words, completely irrelevant.
If, according to your philosophy, you see fraud and deception everywhere, write a movie instead of forum posts discussing actual legality.
On a side note, seems like someone's been watching too much Fight Club
If, according to your philosophy, you see fraud and deception everywhere, write a movie instead of forum posts discussing actual legality.
On a side note, seems like someone's been watching too much Fight Club
shaddelick
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That's fraud according dictionary.com, not any actual legal reference text. In other words, completely irrelevant.
If, according to your philosophy, you see fraud and deception everywhere, write a movie instead of forum posts discussing actual legality.
On a side note, seems like someone's been watching too much Fight Club
How is it irrelevant? The definition of fraud is what we were speaking about. And i am quoting from a real dictionary. Anyone can sue someone if they were defrauded and suffered a loss. Fraud is Fraud, isnt it?
Why am i not?How about you, why are you writing a forum post and not making a movie? You are starting not to make sense. You seem to be confused, especially since my statement of defining fraud was not directed to you.
Nope, havent seen fight club, but dont think i need to, i see enough things in real life