Got scammed by Catardat

This guy contacted me via Skype for selling Aws account, money had sent and then he ignored me.
@catardat

Shitlist Request Approved

@catardat has been notified he has 48 hours to respond to this post.

PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

Reminder to everyone else:

Shit list rule #4:
If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.

@catardat has been banned.

He has been on since this was opened and did not respond.

8 year old account - 800 messages, it's a shame.

Sorry, @vltn3391.

This person has a group, yesterday he was PM me too, but I want to use escrow, and he offered escrow of this forum.
and very strange, escrow asked me to at least minimal 5 account transactions direct.

cypionate first offered me catardat as escrow.

then I refused, and then he offered Scritty as escrow, but Scritty ask me transactions to than more one account.

Scritty https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/scritty.110903/

catardat https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/catardat.15326/

cypionate https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/cypionate.13509/

http://prntscr.com/eq0bhv
http://prntscr.com/eq0cac
http://prntscr.com/eq0ch8

@Scritty @catardat @cypionate

Goddamn!
So, I also got scammed.
We were having a deal of an Adsense account.
While talking, there were several red alerts I came across that made me think he is a scammer but I kept believing he isn't because he was such an old member with so many positive ratings and thanks recieved
Seriously, I'd now be having so many trust issues while dealing.

Proof :

Im new on BHW. I haved check his reputation before.
So now i still dont know why risk a good account for just 15$. Maybe he is making a big scam and run away.

BassTrackerBoats said:

@catardat has been banned.

He has been on since this was opened and did not respond.

8 year old account - 800 messages, it's a shame.

Sorry, @vltn3391.

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vltn3391 said:

Im new on BHW. I haved check his reputation before.
So now i still dont know why risk a good account for just 15$. Maybe he is making a big scam and run away.

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As I said in my reply above, he also scammed me. But the amount was little ~ 30$
What I am failing to understand is why scam mere amount, he could manage to make lil money in last 8 year?

cypionate also scammed me on Sunday.

max bruce said:

cypionate also scammed me on Sunday.

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You should create a shitllist thread against him. Mods will take care of it.

Sell product keys windows said:

This person has a group, yesterday he was PM me too, but I want to use escrow, and he offered escrow of this forum.
and very strange, escrow asked me to at least minimal 5 account transactions direct.

cypionate first offered me catardat as escrow.

then I refused, and then he offered Scritty as escrow, but Scritty ask me transactions to than more one account.

Scritty https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/scritty.110903/

catardat https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/catardat.15326/

cypionate https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/cypionate.13509/

http://prntscr.com/eq0bhv
http://prntscr.com/eq0cac
http://prntscr.com/eq0ch8

@Scritty @catardat @cypionate

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Members offering escrow services !?! Thinks Mods and Admin might need to look into this.

@BassTrackerBoats @I know SEO @Apricot

Asif WILSON Khan said:

Members offering escrow services !?! Thinks Mods and Admin might need to look into this.

@BassTrackerBoats @I know SEO @Apricot

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Yep, looking into it now - thanks for the heads up.

Update:

I've found irrefutable proof that Scritty and Cypionate's accounts changed hands in the last few weeks and are now being owned by the same person. Cypionate asked his buyers to use escrow services provided by Scritty and both accounts were keeping up a pretense of being unconnected.

Both accounts have been immediately banned. This has also brought to light other connected accounts which are being investigated now.

Preventing and stopping fraudulent activity like this is our utmost priority to keep our members safe. Help us do this by protecting yourself wherever possible - this thread is essential reading for members trading on bhw: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/avoiding-scams-staying-safe-on-black-hat-world.884947/ If you suspect someone of acting in a fraudulent manner, report this immediately. If it's a seller/buyer dispute then the shitlist is the appropriate place to submit it so we can mediate to get it sorted out.

Two golden rules to keep in mind:

NO MEMBER IS AUTHORISED TO ARBITRATE TRADES OR PROVIDE ESCROW SERVICES ON BEHALF OF BHW
This is something we can look at providing in future if it appears necessary. Until then, use regulated escrow providers only - either a bank service, escrow.com or paypal arbitration (never use friends and family payments for services as you have zero protection).

KEEP ALL DISCUSSIONS VIA PM.
Reputable sellers will be happy to discuss services via PM. If they ask you to contact them on skype immediately, they've probably got something to hide. Once you go off the forum, it's almost impossible for us to help you. If you *must* do it, then make sure they confirm their skype address via PM first. Some scammers won't even give you their skype addresses but ask for yours to add you. Make sure you get them to confirm their skype address via PM first BEFORE starting any discussion.

just wanted to say nice catch wilson very little gets past you.

Apricot said:

Update:

I've found irrefutable proof that Scritty and Cypionate's accounts changed hands in the last few weeks and are now being owned by the same person. Cypionate asked his buyers to use escrow services provided by Scritty and both accounts were keeping up a pretense of being unconnected.

Both accounts have been immediately banned. This has also brought to light other connected accounts which are being investigated now.

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@Apricot just a thought but it maybe worth posting a list of all connected accounts when you have finished your investigations, just so the community is aware and anyone else that was conned by these people can be clear on whats been done?

@Scritty
I've got scammed (probably) in the same way. Opened a thread to buy Amazon Merch account and trusted a Premium Member with such history and post counter.
He has pushed me to pay him via bitcoin because his paypal was limited. Sadly, I've agreed ;/
After payment he not PMed me for 24h, just silenced.
Maybe I've been scammed, maybe not. Apricot has blocked his account and can't PM him. Haven't asked about email or skype before and it's my mistake.

Lost $70

I want to warn you guys, always ask for skype, email and paypal - don't go with BTC because it stinks. Even it's old user, elite member or whatever.
Always buy via approved BST only and verified PayPal (it can allow you to open refund).

Good job BHW Guardians

PGUK_RIPPER said:

@Apricot just a thought but it maybe worth posting a list of all connected accounts when you have finished your investigations, just so the community is aware and anyone else that was conned by these people can be clear on whats been done?

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I'm going through lots of information at this moment. If it's connected, the account will be banned.

There's a limited amount of information we can provide due to the data protection act. However, I'll make sure everyone has enough information from this to be able to protect themselves. Ultimately, the one thing everyone should take away from this is that you do not send money to anyone on the internet without using a service that offers arbitration. This is a fundamental part of doing your due diligence.

vinku said:

@Scritty
I've got scammed (probably) in the same way. Opened a thread to buy Amazon Merch account and trusted a Premium Member with such history and post counter.
He has pushed me to pay him via bitcoin because his paypal was limited. Sadly, I've agreed ;/
After payment he not PMed me for 24h, just silenced.
Maybe I've been scammed, maybe not. Apricot has blocked his account and can't PM him. Haven't asked about email or skype before and it's my mistake.

Lost $70

I want to warn you guys, always ask for skype, email and paypal - don't go with BTC because it stinks. Even it's old user, elite member or whatever.
Always buy via approved BST only and verified PayPal (it can allow you to open refund).

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Yes, make sure you get lots of contact details before dealing with anyone. It's important to remember that people can register as many skype and email addresses as they like. Get all the information you can but keep discussions on PM and don't send payments that you cannot claim back if you need to.

Apricot said:

I'm going through lots of information at this moment. If it's connected, the account will be banned.

There's a limited amount of information we can provide due to the data protection act. However, I'll make sure everyone has enough information from this to be able to protect themselves. Ultimately, the one thing everyone should take away from this is that you do not send money to anyone on the internet without using a service that offers arbitration. This is a fundamental part of doing your due diligence.




Yes, make sure you get lots of contact details before dealing with anyone. It's important to remember that people can register as many skype and email addresses as they like. Get all the information you can but keep discussions on PM and don't send payments that you cannot claim back if you need to.

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100% and thanks for all your hard work! I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say it's appreciated!

Unfortunately, this has turned into a bit of a rabbit hole. I've banned two more senior accounts involved in the fake escrow service - Entrepreneur and justone.

Both accounts have, again, changed hands in the last month. There are more members involved, I'm still going through this but it takes time to gather sufficient evidence.

In the meantime - and once again - DO NOT USE AN ESCROW SERVICE OFFERED BY A MEMBER VIA PM!

I'll update with a more comprehensive list tomorrow.

Apricot said:

Unfortunately, this has turned into a bit of a rabbit hole. I've banned two more senior accounts involved in the fake escrow service - Entrepreneur and justone.

Both accounts have, again, changed hands in the last month. There are more members involved, I'm still going through this but it takes time to gather sufficient evidence.

In the meantime - and once again - DO NOT USE AN ESCROW SERVICE OFFERED BY A MEMBER VIA PM!

I'll update with a more comprehensive list tomorrow.

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Is it possible these accounts were compromised?