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Got robbed $800 by Xplicit

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by nguyend408, Apr 9, 2011.

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  1. nguyend408

    nguyend408 Junior Member

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    So I got robbed $800 by Xplicit. Here's the story -

    Xplicit, we spoke on the phone on April 4 at 1:53PM. I've told you that I wanted a fully redesigned website instead of what we spoke for earlier which was just a revamp. Then I told you that that I needed to confirm this with my partner which I did and I got his approval. Later that night, I went online and yes, planned out the project and it was a set agreement, brand new website, $800.
    It was getting late and he said his wife was watching a movie alone and he didn't want to leave her alone so he said he will talk to me tomorrow, 9AM EST. That night, my partner called me and basically bailed out on me. Next morning, I waited for xplicit to show up online. I waited for 4 hours. No sign of him. I called him, his mom picked up and handed the phone to David (xplicit). I asked him "hey I don't see you online..." and he started blowing off on me. He said "don't ever call me like that again, I'm not going to treat you like a pedestal." How would you feel if you paid someone $800 for a website design and that person says he will meet you online the next day at a specific time and he's no where to be found. So of course I called him. Next thing, he tells me "take your money, I don't want to do business with you." So I said okay. Please return my money. He said in 30 days and he hung op on me. I didn't call back because I know he's going to keep going at me again so I emailed him and asked him to refund my money. At this point, I was heated as anyone would but I kept my ground and stayed cool. Next day I see him online, and I instant messaged him. I asked please return my money. He kept saying, please refer to our phone conversation. I asked again please return my money. and again "please refer to our phone conversation".
    So I said, "karmas a bitch and it will bite you back in the ass" and I left.

    I didn't want to deal directly with David anymore because I know he's not going to return my money with the way he's going. So I filed a dispute knowing chances are I won't get my money back since paypal doesn't cover web design services. I got an email today from paypal and it was rejected. Here's what it said:

    Hello David Nguyen,

    PayPal has concluded our investigation into your claim.


    Seller's Name: The Payment Center
    Seller's Email: dlaflair01*gmail*xxx
    Seller's Transaction ID: 1PS24388L59145212

    Transaction Date: Apr 4, 2011
    Transaction Amount: -$800.00 USD
    Your Transaction ID: 58T95274FU3985272T
    Case Number: PP-001-269-835-067

    Buyer's Transaction ID: 58T95274FU985272T



    In response to your claim, the seller has provided proof of shipment
    indicating that the item was shipped to you. Because the seller was able to
    provide proof of shipment, we cannot reverse this transaction or issue a
    refund. We encourage you to continue to work directly with the seller to
    amicably resolve this matter.




    What proof of verification??? So I asked a friend of mines who is very familiar with paypal and he said David sent paypal a "tracking number" stating that he did delivered the service....What a bunch of BS... Smart move.


    Well in all, I am writing this because I am disappointed at David for not returning my money... and lied to Paypal...

    Of course I was the idiot as well who paid the full amount. I learned my lesson and I will not trust everyone on this forum who has a good rep.

    I am mad at myself and hope you guys can learn from this. I know my reputation on this forum is rather weak with only a few post so I'm not trusted or credible. I am new in internet marketing a complete noob so I asked david to design my website.

    Thanks for reading.


    I also wrote this word for word in his original thread. I didn't know we had a shit list until some people on the forum messaged me.

    Please take further action Moderator.
     
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  2. BlackSeng

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    Don't worry, you're not alone having a prob with him.
    Hope mods get this sorted out asap.

    I remember he was banned recently...
    oh well, we can't jump to conclusions so quickly.

    I hope you and him get this sorted out, and so will the mods.
     
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  3. character

    character Regular Member

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    I paid that kid (xplicit) for a design few months ago and he gave me some shitty work and lame excuses of "other designers would of charged for the extra revisions" when after all he was just covering for his shitty work/design

    hopefully you can get your money back, next time find a real designer and not some punk

    PS - talk to his mother? some kids need to be put in line and parents are probably the only ones able to do it, you having direct contact with one of them could get this situation resolved pretty quickly

    PS2: You can always take his ass to court if you have his information/lawyer on your side
     
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  4. chickenpox

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    so wait..

    he has a wife and still lives with his mom? lol lol lol.

    anyways, I hope the mods do something about it.

    too many complaints these past month about him.
     
  5. 7878

    7878 Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Xplicit has been notified of this thread, expect a response here shortly.

    Try to keep the peanut gallery comments to a minimum unless you have information directly related to the matter at hand.
     
  6. BlackSeng

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    I remember that funny fella alsos pulled the same tactic on me.
    A year or so ago, I asked him to design a website for me. I told him it was urgent and he assured me it would be done within 4-5 days (I remember it was Friday when I paid and discussed with him the details).

    On Monday, I PMed and emailed him and asked how's the progress. He did not respond at all. Then on Tuesday (the deadline), I again emailed and PM him in BHW. He ignored me once again.
    Then finally, on Thurs or Fri, he replied and told me that his ex-client wasn't happy with his work and asked him to revamp everything again, thus he needs several more days.
    Definitely I was pissed since he could have told me beforehand, and it's an urgent order.
    He said he would gladly refund me if I want to, and I asked for an immediate refund.

    Then he replied something like, "Give me a several days as my paypal balance is empty.. you know how paypal is". But what pisses me off is... he had more orders after that and I am sure he has received the funds from those new clients to his paypal. So I PMed again and he said, "like I said, few more days".
    Worrying that I was scammed and getting really angry, I PMed him a few more times and he ignored me. Having no choice, I filed a dispute... and guess what? He replied and told paypal that he has sent the works to me and is able to provide proof.. and even requested paypal to ask further evidence from me and told paypal that "evidence like chat logs can be altered easily with photo-editing softwares".
    I opened a shitlist against him and he told everyone I was lying and gave his own altered evidence.

    Fortunately, paypal sided me and refunded me. I publicly told it in the shit thread I created and xplicit replied something like, "No way, I initialed the refund... I got the funds from my friends to refund you."
    WTF huh? He even posted a screenshot in BHW to show it to everyone, which I believe is photoshopped.

    Worststill, he went back to his service thread and said something like, "5 pages of good reviews and 1 impatient buyer".
    (Thread: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...89-will-design-landing-pages-oto-pages-5.html)

    COol bro... how cool...
    I am glad he wasn't promoted to a moderator.
     
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  7. -Jericho-

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    Paypal is a joke. I have lost every dispute with them and it doesn't matter which side I am on. I honestly believe that they just keep the money and tell both people they lost. They don't even care if you have proof or not.
     
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  8. anish891

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    Agreed..Ive been burned on so many disputes now...They are ridiculous..
     
  9. 7878

    7878 Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Do your homework before you make a statement like that and look like an ass. They were both in the training program at one point in time.
     
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  10. JohnnyRabbit

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    Wouldn't be surprised..

    I have dealt with XPLICT and he is pure bad news.

    He tried to defame my reputation infact when it is he the one that is a fraud.
     
  11. chowyoungfat

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    Did you use a credit card?
    Fuck paypal's buyer protection.
    Ring your bank and do a chargeback through your cc for fraud or item not received/item is faulty and you'll get your money back. You have to do it within 3 months of the transaction. If that doesn't work or you paid through your bank account, keep ringing paypal and ask to speak to their supervisor and keep going up the chain. Don't give up and you'll get your cash back. Always use a credit card for online purchases. Hope everything gets sorted mate.
     
  12. xplicit

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    Ok, lets first start off by me not being promoted to moderator has nothing to do with my rep on the board it has something to do with me calling out another "mod" and getting banned, but then the one who I called out and made a fool of has been perma banned on the board but we wont go into that. But those who I have talked to know the truth about that. It had nothing to do about my integrety, but how the other "used to be mod" acted!

    SECOND, Blackseng, I would like to know when you and I ever struck up any kind of business deal because I dont remember ever talking to you about any kind of design work. So what ever you are talking about is news to me. So with that being said, PLEASE show me where we have spoken and we agreed on anything!

    As far as my mom answering the phone, let me give you all the run down (like its is any of yalls business), my mother lived in FL and had her house broken into and I didnt want her living by herself so I moved my family from TN to FL so she can feel safe with me being here, se I moved her in with me, But that has nothing to do with this. But if you punks want to think I am a mommas boy, then your right. I would rather have my momma live with me than feel insecure about having her own place and not wanting to be alone.

    Character, again, What did you oreder and who the hell are you? I dont remember you ever oredering anything from me. So if you did please lay it on the line here because I keep records of who I have done business with and what I have done, so if you hav a problem I will galdl show the board I have done what you asked!

    David (nguyend408), we already spoke about this issue 3 times over the phone and several times over IM. If you wish I can post it all here but members can go to my thread and see what I posted about our conversation. I explained everything to you yet you are not satisfied about it, so there is nothing I can do about it.

    But for you all to come and try to smeer my rep and good name on BHW, all I can say to that is prove it because when I am called out and notified (thank you 7878) I will come to the thread and defend myself becaus I am no scammer and have nothing to hide. I am a man of my word... something you dont find on this board often!!!
     
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    I got some popcorn myself.... this should be interesting.
     
  14. anish891

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    I might be wrong but if you do that doesnt your paypal balance become negative and then paypal claims you owe them money?
     
  15. mudbutt

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    wow. first matt cutts to the shitlist, now xplicit. what the fuck is wrong with this world!!!!
     
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    Wait, which on of you is David Nguyen? You said that his name is David, but then in the letter from Paypal that you quoted the name was David Nguyen.
     
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    I hear your heartbeat. Its beating fast I wonder why
     
  18. BlackSeng

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    They are both Davids.

    OP = David Nguyen.
    Xplicit = David Deflair (or something)
     
  19. nguyend408

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    First off, we explained this issue once on the phone when you raged on me and once online. you keep saying we explained this issue on the phone. Why won't you explain this issue to all of us because I have no idea what you're talking about.. I don't mind you talking about our business on this forum to everyone. you have my permission.

    You are one smart guy. I gotta admit. A good liar as well.

    "Now you call me 3 times demanding for me to issue you a refund. But I think I explained this to you during our phone conversations." - XPLICIT

    Explain what???? Your're saying the same thing over and over...

    I'm not going to waste my time and argue anymore. I'm going to try to handle this with paypal.

    Oh yea, go ahead and show everyone our conversation.. I hope you didn't edit or photoshop it.

    I have nothing to hide.
     
  20. PersistenceAttacks

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    Never had any issues with Xplicit, always got what I paid for. Everyone who I sent to him for services never had any complaints to me about him not doing the right thing...
     
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