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Google's 30 Day Sandbox - A Way Out

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dumbodrop, Jul 9, 2014.

  1. dumbodrop

    dumbodrop Regular Member

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    Ok, so we don't really know what's happening and I don't think Google know themselves. See referring threads here and here.

    I'm going to call it Google's 30 Day Sandbox.

    What we can ascertain is that there is a sandbox filter on new sites and new pages on established sites. As with aged domains, buying one to rank still applies with this 30 day sandbox as it applies to a new page that has just been indexed. So basically a new site/page will be throttled.

    Some tips to keep in mind:

    1a. Keep building links as usual - it will 'bounce back' to the rightful position once it's passed the 1 month mark (this time-frame is not definitive)
    1b. Keep link velocity going, even if there is no movement
    2. Stick to the fundamentals of SEO. Proper onsite optimization, unique content, page load speed etc.

    What if you've done all this and it still hasn't budged or moved backwards? You've done something wrong. Either your sites sucks and or you have links that Google doesn't like. In the time period that you've been sandboxed, Google's algorithm's had a chance to catchup with your site; checked the on page optimization, the competitiveness of your keywords (high CPC keywords compete with their adwords), your backlinks, your link velocity, the quality and quantity of your content and dozens of other unknown factors are weighed in. If it holds mustard, you're good to go, if not...well back to the drawing board for you.

    Exceptions to the rule; news content that is getting a lot of buzz on the net. Linkbait anyone?

    What it requires to rank now, more so then ever is grit and perseverance underlined by proper SEO disciplines. In one swoop, Google just took the wind out of anyone that was wanting to rank quickly, clearing a pathway for those with the patience, resources and skills to get a bigger foothold in the serps.

    If you have any other observations that become evident, post them below.
     
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  2. nonai

    nonai Power Member

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    I dont believe the sandbox has anything to do with domain age. It has to do with age of the backlinks.
    in other words, if you have a domain that was indexed 3 years ago, and you start backlinking it now, it won't move because the backlinks are too new.
    hopefully the hold is only for 30 days because if its longer then we are all screwed.
     
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  3. reallife

    reallife Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    How did you come to these conclusions, when all of the rest of us are still waiting to see what happens? Did you do testing?
     
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    mickyfu Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Search for Google sandbox from 10 years ago, this is nothing new. However the sandbox in my opinion seemed to disappear when the Panda and Penguin updates were brought in.
     
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    owaiswiz Regular Member

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    I would too love to know how do you came to this conclusion or is this just a advice not backed by any experiment or such?
     
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    SkyrocketSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well, there were 2 threads already, so it must be truth...I mean, this is the 3rd thread now, do you need another proof?
     
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  7. mickyfu

    mickyfu Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Haven't you heard, someone who could not rank a website, still cannot rank a website, so SEO is dead. Its all true you know.
     
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    jaselc Regular Member Premium Member

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    Currently doing an experiment now with building links to a new site, currently on week 3 and rankings went from 158 to 22 and now it's creeping back up to 34 since I stopped building links. I am currently building a few more and I'll see what happens in another week or 2!!!
     
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  9. babasss

    babasss Regular Member

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    something strange from my point. i build some web2.0 to a new blogger site, and find a 1 day old web2.0 article on page 2, and main website, blogger, on page 3. I use direct backlinks and trier, no competition for keyword, long tail
     
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  10. Taktical

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    Enough. You've trolled the other thread already.

    Do you have evidence that counters what we're seeing? Because I'm seeing the same thing with a large client that builds white hat links (i.e. they get legitimate links from promotional activities. they dont publish anything).

    Link building started, google dance started, and then the keyword dropped and has stayed down. Waiting to see if the 30 day period kicks in at the end of July.


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  11. Zizou10

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    All of my keywords are stuck on pages 2-4. I am going to send more links, and will report back. The domain is over a year old.
     
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    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I think the trolling in that thread was due to the mention of "high quality web 2.0s" because people keep posting that crap as if it is the answer to ranking any and every site. If it isn't that, they they suggest "PBN's" and most of the people suggesting PBN's haven't even built one.

    As for the 30 day sandbox, on first glance, yes it looks like there may be something to it but there have been at least 4 updates this year that maybe having an effect.

    http://www.seroundtable.com/google-sandbox-version-two-18767.html
    http://seotraffichacks.com/respond-...aign=respond-googles-new-30-day-links-sandbox
     
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    This, x100.

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    I appreciate thats what you have come to conclude through personal experience, much better than someone suggesting stuff without actually going through anything.
     
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    Are you sure it is 30 days in the sandbox? I appreciate the info but is any of it actually researched? I had a website of mine drop from page 2 for many keywords to page 5+ overnight and has been stuck there since may. I'm continuing link building and adding content but no luck yet.
     
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    thanks for the advice mate. what you said its definitly the way to go. now SEO DICIPLINE COMES TO Play a role
     
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  17. superslikuzi

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    from my experience the sandbox also is restricted to keyword monthly searches greater than X amount. Like OP said, these keywords mean those rankings are competing with Adwords which makes sense.
    AKA people can still rank relatively fast for long tail keywords
     
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  18. tony_d

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    Nobody can be sure of any time frame at this point - it's far too early, and the data is ambiguous at best, and outright opposite in other cases.
     
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    lol,
    I was talking about getting out of the sandbox,don't know what'd you think mate :)
    You're actually quite true ,
    I've never ranked a serious website before,some low-competitive sites.
    Although I never said SEO is dead :)
    Consider me a newbie and forgive me if you find my posts stupid :)
     
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