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Google Just Made Bing the Best Search Engine

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by SyZygy, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. SyZygy

    SyZygy Senior Member

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    "I just switched the default search engine in my browser from Google to Bing. And if you care about working efficiently, or getting the right results when you search, then maybe you should too. Don't laugh! Google changed the way search works this week. It deeply integrated Google+ into search results. It's ostensibly meant to deliver more personalized results. But it pulls those personalized results largely from Google services—Google+, Picasa, YouTube. Search for a restaurant, and instead of its Yelp page, the top result might be someone you know discussing it on Google Plus. Over at SearchEngineland, Danny Sullivan has compiled a series of damning examples of the ways Google's new interface promotes Plus over relevancy. Long story short: It's a huge step backwards.
    A lot of people are crying foul, and even "anti-trust." Sure, it does seem pretty transparently designed to drive traffic and users to Google Plus, and to make Google Plus brand pages the go-to place for a company's social media presence. And it's true that results from Facebook and Twitter in particular have been noticeably kicked down.
    But I didn't switch for political reasons, or as an act of protest. I don't care if Google hurts Twitter or Facebook—or even Friendster for that matter. Boo-hoo. I only care if it hurts me. And this does. Google broke itself.
    For years, Google Search has been the highest quality web product I've ever used. It has remained consistently essential as an information-delivery mechanism. I typically hit it hundreds of times a day—on my phone, tablet, laptop and desktop. But with one update it wiped out all those years of loyalty and goodwill it had built up. Sure, I can opt out of social results with a click—but as with all things I don't want to have to
    opt out. I don't want to have to make that extra click. I want to enter a query, and have the most relevant results returned to me as quickly as possible. (And if Google genuinely doesn't think it's a big deal for people to take the extra step oft opting out, why has it focused so relentlessly on optimizing speed for so many years?)
    The great thing is, of course, you can just switch. Hit up your browser preferences, and swap your default to Bing. I know, I know, but yes I'm serious. Sure, Bing had a rocky start. But if you haven't seen it recently it's worth another look. It has a super clean interface. It's fast. And operators work the way you expect them to. Best of all it's
    relevant.
    In short, it's a lot like Google. Not the Google of today, but the Google you fell in love with, the one that put your search results above its financial ones. The Google that delivered."


    Source: http://gizmodo.com/5875571/google-just-made-bing-the-best-search-engine


    What do you guys think? I personally also like Bing, very clean interface, really good stuff, but I'm kinda connected to Google because of business and all
     
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  2. nikao

    nikao Power Member

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    never can't seem to find anything in Bing, so I guess it will be google for me still....
     
  3. MKelly

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    I must admit, I have not changed to Bing yet, but I'm considering it, I searched on G yesterday for one of my interests, and so much social garbage and shit came up it was unreal.

    I go to Google to search, because it's a search engine, not to see the same shit I just saw that my dickhead friends have posted on their BORING Google+ profiles!

    They really are fucking themselves with all these changes, the thing with google is, they keep telling us SEO's to do what's best for our site users... but they don't consider their users at all, their 'experts' just come up with stupid ideas.

    The promotion of Google+ is getting desperate, it's a boring social network for webmasters, GET OVER IT GOOGLE!! Go back to being the best search engine, you suck at social stuff.
     
  4. Getwhatchuwant

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    I understand what G is trying to do, essentially corner the entire web market. They have already pretty much done that with search.

    But the G+ is somewhat silly IMO. I have a FB page with about 500 friends and acquaintances, if I want to ask them what is the best hairspray I will tweet or ask my FB friends, I dont need G+ telling me what my friends think, I can ask directly.

    In addition this is another clear attempt for Google to favor itself, its advertisers and its social users in search. I am surprised we are not hearing more antitrust talk. There are several other social platforms and in a search I would expect if social signals were going to be considered, that ALL social signals be considered.

    We will see how this plays out but one thing is for sure, we better be equipped to deal with this in the future and the future is now.
     
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    Hopefully they finally realize how irrelevant this is to their users (YES, that's US, the people that use them everyday) and revert back.
     
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    upandaway Newbie

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    only time will tell, but the future looks in favour of Socialisation
     
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    the average Joe not going to notice the changes, so for us is not going to make any change.

    Google is only one source of leads for us (not the biggest) so is not going to change any thing
     
  8. ILoveCSharp

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    google + is going affect rankings a lot and it was obvious since the beginning

    unfortunately i suppose i have got banned my site from +1 with joining +1 exchanges long before because now even the legit +1s are not getting counted.
     
  9. fuserleer

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    Ive noticed a disticnt drop in search relevancy for most of the stuff I search for over the past few weeks, starting before this G+ stuff was put up.

    I had NEVER used Bing until about 3 weeks ago, was looking for some information on a specialized field, and Google hadnt really failed me, ever, with search before.

    After 15 mins of wading through shit, (which reminded me of the Infoseek and Hotbot days), I fired up Bing, and Bang...there was what I was looking for. Ive had to resort to it a few times over the past weeks now.

    Google are slowly strangling themselves....but....any one else notice, this has all started to happen since page and Brin took over the reigns?
     
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    Well I can not be bothered to go to my settings and make bing my default search engine.

    LoL Troll
     
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  12. Getwhatchuwant

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    Ineresting video and worth the watch. To put it simply, the internet allowed us to explore outside of our immediate circle of friends, family etc... With these changes we are moving right back to being right in the midst of the circle that we are trying to use the Web to get out of.
     
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    Google has been really irritating me with this kind of stuff. Never mind from an SEO standpoint but as a consumer of their searches I'm getting aggravated with the direction they're going in. I'm tired of all the social network crap and just want my regular search results. If I or a friend bookmarks a site it doesn't mean I want it showing up higher in my search results. I have it bookmarked so I can find it quickly. If I'm searching for something chances are I'm not looking for my bookmark or my friends bookmarks. If I wanted their opinion I would ask them for it.
     
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    Step 1: Log out of G account
    Step 2: Continue searching as normal
    Step 3: Profit??????????????
     
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  15. Fwiffo

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    yes... 100%..... this

    i don't want to be told what i'm searching for before i'm done typing it
    i don't want to see a preview of the website layout before i look at it
    i don't want to know that some second cousin of someone i worked with 4 years ago once ate at a mexican restaurant
    i don't want to have to send legal notices to have a picture of family playing on the lawn outside of my house removed from the internet, or be told that i can "just move"

    and most of all

    i don't want to give my personal information, thoughts, feelings, and life story to a company that has a motto of "if you have something you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place"

    bing's not as good as google yet, but better than google was a year or two earlier. i dropped google from my personal life over a year ago. never looked back.
     
  16. Stizerg

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    Google+ affects you search results because you're logged in. All you need to do is to click 'Sign out'.
     
  17. bk071

    bk071 Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Nope, not true =)

    If you watch that video I post above, he says

    I highly recommend watching that video its worth every second of your time... very interesting.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOE1HFEL8XA
     
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    They'll only do that when the money starts drying up!
     
  19. Fwiffo

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  20. MKelly

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    You know what I'd like, I'd really love a huge 'switch to bing' campaign to go on! I don't really give a shit about who is No 1 search engine, but i'd love to follow all the reactions, blog posts and controversy, watch Matt Cutts wet himself e.t.c..