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Good guy turned bad!! Scammed

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by killakem, May 2, 2012.

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  1. killakem

    killakem Regular Member

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    Hi,

    So I started a thread asking for a content writer to complete some articles for me with the POSSIBILITY of ongoing work, i got a PM from the user tensureFP. we immediately started talking on Skype.

    I made an initial order of 15 articles which he delivered promptly and where of OK quality. I even decided to over pay him as I believe in rewarding people and keeping them happy.

    Then he started to get really pushy about me making a second order and was under the impression that he was now under my permanent employment.

    I had a feeling he wanted to scam me and probably needed money to buy his GF a valentines present!! so against my better judgment i sent him the payment to cover my next order. This was on the 16/02/2012. I did not send him the keyword until the 20/02/2012 as I was not ready at the time of ordering but merely sent him the money as he seemed desperate. This is the last time I help anyone out financially!!


    He delivered 5 of the articles a week later on the 27/02/2012. Now i was still waiting for my articles and started to send him messages asking where they where.

    On the 08/03/2012 i received the below response from him

    I was not interested in working with him further and just wanted what I had pay'd for.

    on the 10/03/2012 nearly one month after sending payment he delivered the second part. I did not check this strait away and that was stupid of me. but I had moved onto another project by now and was pissed off at how long he had taken to deliver.

    So on 13/04/2012 I had one of my VA's start uploading all the articles we had for that site and he came back saying part 2 from Chad was a rar file with no articles inside. So i checked his original email he sent to me and confirmed the articles were not inside.

    I contacted him the same day and received no response. So I tried to open a paypal dispute to get his attention, but paypal wouldn't open one because it was over 45 days!! on the 19/04/2012 I emailed him again and this time got the below response.

    I tried to explain that the dispute was never opened and that I just wanted my articles. I never heard anything from him.

    So emailed him today asking what was going on with this and got the below response which is TOTALLY unacceptable.


    To which i replied.

    Then I received the following response from him.

    Can someone advise me of what to do. Surely he doesnt have a leg to stand on with his "you said you would place more orders" defence.

    I did say I had hundreds of articles that I needed writing but at no point did i say they would be awarded to a single writer. but that's why I pay'd him his full price and didn't want the bulk price as I wanted to test him out with a few orders.

    I wish I never sent my last message but I was just so pissed off that he was threatening my reputation on BHW.

    I can forward the email containing the bullshit attachment if the admins require!! I can also provide all email and skype correspondence.

    Thanks
    Killa
     
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  2. killakem

    killakem Regular Member

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    I just realised this guy has scammed me and is not only threatening me with a BHW shitlist but is also threatening with the police. What the hell!! isn't that cheeky lol
     
  3. The Nix

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    That sucks man. I read through everything... That guy is a legit retard.

    It's unfortunate that you got played. It's really difficult to trust people here, especially those who comes out of nowhere and just PMs you after you post at the Hire a Freelancer. I've worked hard to build a solid reputation as a writer because I didn't want to be like those creepy guys.

    Oh, if you don't mind... How much are we talking here? Did you invest a lot to that fool?
     
  4. tensureFP

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    Like I said, if you had not taken ages to report that there was a problem, I could have simply resent them to you.

    Instead, I get a paypal dispute ages later. Paypal rightfully automatically closed the dispute because it was so old. But, it leaves a permanent black mark on my account.

    People here should note that you threatened me with false paypal disputes.

    "Remember I sent you another payment and cant dispute that also. Another blackmark im sure u do not need."


    This person has been an absolute nightmare to deal with. Claiming he will place orders then disappearing for ages. Just like he disappeared then resurfaced ages later claiming a problem with articles I sent him ages ago. I also still have all the email and skype messages. The ones he conveniently left out.

    Threatening to submit false paypal disputes is disgusting, and I will not tolerate being threatened.

    I will be contacting paypal by phone and forwarding your threat to provide false disputes for work that was completed to your satisfaction.

    Mods, please contact me regarding me threatening false paypal disputes.
     
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  5. tensureFP

    tensureFP BANNED BANNED

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    You should wait to get all the facts before jumping to conclusions.
     
  6. tensureFP

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    Thank you.

    As you can see, I am no scammer and work hard and do my job right.

    There is way more here to the story than the OP is showing.

    I want to talk to the mods about the threat for false paypal disputes. I am not at all happy about that.
     
  7. The Nix

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    Then I apologize for calling you a retard. His description gave me the idea that you were never active here and just sent random PMs. You're right. I'm sorry mate.
    I'm the retard :(

    Seriously though, I'm sorry. I'll be subscribed to this thread. But can you please tell us how much money is being fought over here?
     
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  8. tensureFP

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    lol

    it is 10 articles :)
     
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    Honestly, you still sound like a tool to me. You were prepaid for the order and then took you a week from when he gave you his keywords to deliver the first 5 - and then another two weeks for the remainder of the order? As someone that buys content, unless it was a very large order and was agreed upon in advance, 3 weeks is WAY too long for order fulfillment!

    As far as the 'blackmark' on your paypal, you earned it. If you provide content, how hard is it to archive your previous orders for the off-chance that something like this happens? I have papers I have written for college classes 5 months ago! Should he have checked his file earlier, yea... probably - but at the same time, you should have provided the file to him much earlier too.

    At the end of the day, a mod will decide the outcome of course... but honestly... I won't be buying any content from you myself...

    Just my .02 worth...

    PS. Concerning the whole 'dicking me around for more orders' - huh? Until money changes hands, there is no contract... he can change his mind - you can change your mind. He can jump up and down and swear to you that tomorrow he is going to order 500 articles but if he doesn't - that's his decision. There is no obligation for the order until money changes hands - at that point, you've both made an angreement.
     
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  10. tensureFP

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    Like I said, there is way more to this than what he posted.

    The keeping old content just in case is a lesson learned by me.
     
  11. killakem

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    You keep talking about these orders.

    Check the thread I created. I did not and have never mentioned in email, skype or PM that i would award all of the work to you or any other single content writer.

    the black mark on your paypal is just, i payed you for articles that you did not deliver. if I had noticed sooner paypal would have refunded my money.

    its only $90 which means nothing too me its the principle. I have had guys threatening me with a shitlist thread over $10 for a logo. I'm not having it.

    At the end of the day I pay'd you the money to create the articles and you didnt deliver. You only provided 5 of the 15 so just refund me 66% of the $90 and we can call it a day.
     
  12. killakem

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    Please note this was sent today and was stupid of me. But was sent in retaliashion for been told i was not getting shit and not to "even think about bad mouthing him on BHW" I had no intention of doing this. It has also been over 45 days so no dispute could even be filed.

    its like me saying I'M gonna kill someone but there already dead!! I'm sure that wouldn't stand up in a court of law.


     
  13. killakem

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    Ill leave it in the hands of the Mods and will respect there decision no matter the outcome.
     
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    wth? :confused: are you still looking for content writer?
     
  15. killakem

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    I am always hiring content writers.

    BUT i have learnt from my mistakes and will only be using BST's and trusted members with hundreds of posts.

    This is not a sure fire way not to be scammed but it will at least give me some protection.
     
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    Dude, I have a permanent black mark in my paypal account because of this.

    You keep trying to claim that there is no paypal dispute, well there is and it is in my paypal account. It is just closed because of how old it is.

    As I mentioned in my email, I am not going to lift a finger to rewrite those articles from ages ago. I already told you, you should have notified me earlier.

    I never threatened you with BHW. I said, do not bother trying to go after me on BHW because you will not win. Can you tell the difference?

    And, here you are attacking me on BHW....

    Threatening me with false paypal disputes in not acceptable at all.

    Mods, please contact me about the threats for false paypal disputes. I will be contacting paypal regarding his threats of false paypal disputes.
     
  17. Burn Notice

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    Don't know either of these gents, but I've been around and seen enough to know to take this for what it is. From my perspective it's just an online version of reality TV.

    In these cases there ALWAYS seems to be more to the story than that which gets posted.
     
  18. killakem

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    LOL go ahead. There is no paypal dispute open!! So if you was scammed by someone would you not open a dispute to get your money back!! what did you expect me to do......just leave it. I don't think so!!!

    Your comment about "don't think about bad mouthing me on BHW" was blatantly because you knew you was in the wrong.

    I have a blackmark on my paypal from a scammer on ebay but it deos not affect me as i do not intend to scam anybody!!

    your clinging onto your only piece of rope this paypal dispute thing. Once again how can i threaten you with an action that's not possible. The dispute that I opened in vain was justified.

    Like I said im too busy making money to argue this further I will leave it up to the MODs and I will respect there decision no matter the outcome.
     
  19. killakem

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    I have laid all my card's on the table and been totally forth coming with the information I have I cannot do any more than this.

    Please TensureFP if i have missed something out please elaborate. Please elaborate on what more there is to this.

     
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    I don't understand one thing. You are a professional writer and you said you had his emails and chat logs and yet you did not keep a copy of the article you sent to him? As you are professional, you should know better. Not keeping a copy of the article just does not make sense to me. This whole thing could have been avoided just by doing that. This is unpleasent for everybody regardless whoever is at fault here.
     
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