Give Leith Some LOOOOVEE Advice!

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Alright guys, just an update. I got a message from her just now (she must have got my number from her mates).

She said hey, and I said hey back. I asked her if we could just start from scratch and just chill out at school like before. Waiting for her reply.

I'm going to ask her in a bit if she wants to go Starbucks later on on Monday or even tomorrow, and just chill out. I'm going to make the move and ask her tomorrow, I simply cannot fuck affording to wait. Im going to be straight up today.

Ooops, didnt see this one.... just as I thought... the boys hormones levels suggest he wants to mate with her ... lol

She will go with plan be and make you believe in jesus... well she will try to have you screaming jesus and thanking God under the sheets Lol
 
Hmmmmm :thinking: i dont think you will... i have a feeling you wont stop till you get it :smileysex

I never give up until the very last second. This girl just texted me back. Im going to go with my gut feeling and with what Shade said and just be myself and do what I think is right. Im going to keep talking to her and just ask her tomorrow the big thing. If it goes wrong, then fuck it and move on. Life goes on.
 
! man and woman can never be friends, i mean you like her man, you wanna date her, so be straight
2 shes hot but that doesnt mean that she is ungettable, dont let self doubts come in your way.
3 You are the HERO of this story and those other so called cool boys are just the extras so forget them
4. go to her talk to her be confident, while you talk to her look her in eye, (but dont scare her)
5. say it

most probably girls dont get something like this, she will say yes

in rare cases she might say no, but thats just life, so move on, there are always better looking and mannered girls
eg some people think of angelina jolie as pretty n hot but that new spainish actress looks like her but in a better way,
see there is always a better one

thanks
 
As mentioned by others, try to avoid the whole religion thing.. You'd probably want to be cautious moving in and possibly criticizing stuff that means a lot to her...

And for everything in the world avoid telling her about your stalkerish obsession with her. Sharing feelings that are not mutual would give her the upper hand and it'd make you look like a wuzz.. Just saying. Good luck, dude! Personally I'd stay away from girls that are too religious and do not respect the fact that I'm an atheist.. That goes along with girls that have psychological problems like eating disorders and what not.. Been there, done that, not a path I'm willing to go down again.

I never give up until the very last second. This girl just texted me back. Im going to go with my gut feeling and with what Shade said and just be myself and do what I think is right. Im going to keep talking to her and just ask her tomorrow the big thing. If it goes wrong, then fuck it and move on. Life goes on.
 
If Leith gets this girl it will be a miracle but I would be pleased. For the love of god, just try to bang her. Go for a walk in the park & get to know her, then take her home and try to bang her. If you fail, then believe me, it's a great learning experience. If you succeed, you bang her. It's a win win but it's scary because you're scared of making an ass out of yourself/rejection. But do you really care about what one girl thinks of you? You get rejected by her and her friends laugh at you? You are making bank every month, you are still laughing. Put it in perspective, within 2 weeks it will be forgotten. Even though I approve of threads like this, awkward blackhatters trying to get a girl, it doesn't mean this has to be another Bartman thread. For the love of god, just try to bang her.

Leith, I want to show you a music video my best friend showed me before I went out on a date with this girl. He told me that I didn't need to wait for months to bang a girl, he said I could just do it within a couple hours. Of course I was young and naive, I thought, WTF? Is this real life? You meet a girl, go for a walk in the park, take her home and have sex with her. It all seems so easy. Our minds as IMers are conditioned to hard work=money, or hard work= anything pleasurable. So we think we must work hard for sex. But the reality is we just need to relax and realise women love it as much as we do. I know it's hard to "pull the trigger" so to speak, but you've just got to get some balls and do it. The way I saw it was, I wasn't prepared to wait months to lay this particular girl as I didn't like her that much, so I just figured I would take my friend's advice and go FTW on the first date. And it worked! And it was a great sexytime! If I hadn't tried to bang her and pussied out, I would have regretted it so much! This is the video he showed me:


Listen to the lyrics and live them!
 
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If Leith gets this girl it will be a miracle but I would be pleased. For the love of god, just try to bang her. Go for a walk in the park & get to know her, then take her home and try to bang her. If you fail, then believe me, it's a great learning experience. If you succeed, you bang her. It's a win win but it's scary because you're scared of making an ass out of yourself/rejection. But do you really care about what one girl thinks of you? You get rejected by her and her friends laugh at you? You are making bank every month, you are still laughing. Put it in perspective, within 2 weeks it will be forgotten. Even though I approve of threads like this, awkward blackhatters trying to get a girl, it doesn't mean this has to be another Bartman thread. For the love of god, just try to bang her.

Leith, I want to show you a music video my best friend showed me before I went out on a date with this girl. He told me that I didn't need to wait for months to bang a girl, he said I could just do it within a couple hours. Of course I was young and naive, I thought, WTF? Is this real life? You meet a girl, go for a walk in the park, take her home and have sex with her. It all seems so easy. Our minds as IMers are conditioned to hard work=money, or hard work= anything pleasurable. So we think we must work hard for sex. But the reality is we just need to relax and realise women love it as much as we do. I know it's hard to "pull the trigger" so to speak, but you've just got to get some balls and do it. The way I saw it was, I wasn't prepared to wait months to lay this particular girl as I didn't like her that much, so I just figured I would take my friend's advice and go FTW on the first date. And it worked! And it was a great sexytime! If I hadn't tried to bang her and pussied out, I would have regretted it so much! This is the video he showed me:


Listen to the lyrics and live them!

Thanks man! We've decided to go out today for the day, starting in a few hours. Hope it goes well.
 
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Good luck with the date just don't ask her if she believes in sex before marriage hehe. Religion and politics are the two things I always never argue with people about as people always get heated up discussing them.
 
I guess it's over - Jazz - I guess you were right :)

Bullshit, you can do it - it 's not like you have to fuck her within a week or the world ends. Give it some time - she seems attracted enough.

It 's a good thing you weren't leeching all over her when she was ignoring you. You passed that test and now she thinks you have balls ;)
 
Yes, girls will do all these crazy tests, she was just being a typical girl being 'angry' that you don't believe in god. That's hardly a crime and she knows it.

Take her out and for the love of god, try to bang her! For the love of god! Don't let this 5 page thread be for nothing! At least go out with a bang and TRY to bang her!

And whatever you do, don't cry on her shoulder!!!
 
Alright from what I've read it seems like she is kind of annoyed because of that "push" thing. Believe it or not but I was in the same exact situation a few months back, but listen up, this is what you do: you ignore her for a few days/weeks - don't make it seem like you're interested at all. And after that, become good friends with her friends (both boys and girls), and try to flirt with some of her girl-friends. She will get jealous quickly ;) It's a tested method!

Edit: and if it really just didn't work out, hey, you've flirted with her girl-friends, you can bang some of them.
 
Take her out and for the love of god, try to bang her! For the love of god! Don't let this 5 page thread be for nothing! At least go out with a bang and TRY to bang her!

If she gave him shit on the existence of God, imaging the shit he 'll get regarding pre-marital sex. Let him have some fun instead of pushing him to round 2 ffs :p
 
If she gave him shit on the existence of God, imaging the shit he 'll get regarding pre-marital sex. Let him have some fun instead of pushing him to round 2 ffs :p

Very true ^

Guys - okay, please don't be disappointed at me, haha, I tried.

I took her out today, we chilled and had a coffee and so on. I managed to even go in for a kiss, and all that. Everything was going well and I was gonna make the move and just ask at the end but as we finished and we were getting ready to leave, she tells me that she just wants to be friends and nothing more. I didn't know what to say but I let her know straight about my feelings for her and how I just don't want to be "friends". She smiled and just left. I managed to go after her, pull her back to me (face to face), and she simply backed away and I knew at this time she didn't feel comfortable so I just let it go.

Either way, I guess I gotta move on. Jazz, thanks for your advice, and thanks everyone else. Sorry I couldn't make it work, I really tried. I guess this mistake is a learning experience for me. Im not the usual guy that makes mistakes but I will definitely learn from this one. Like Spz said, Im going to just forget about her for a complete week and in that time have fun with some other girls. Then maybe I could go back to her later.

Thanks for all your suggestions guys!
 
EDIT - She texted me saying "i hope we can still be friends". Man... fuck her!
 
Let him have some fun? That is fun. What would you rather do: go out on a nice date, buy her ice cream and her overall think you're a sweet guy, or have sex with her and make her scream with pleasure? I used to think the religious ones were off limits too, that they genuinely weren't 'that type of girl'... but what they SAY and what they DO is entirely different. Sometimes I couldn't believe it. If I like sex, I say "I like sex", but a religious girl will say "I don't do that, it's disgusting" or "I'm not that type of girl" or "You're never getting in my pants". When I was young I lost a LOT of ready and willing poontang because I actually believed that crap. It was only when I realised girls were animals just like me, and I dared to think that all their words were just bullshit, that I actually started to get laid. That's all I am saying to Leith here.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, BANG HER!!! MAKE BHW PROUD!!!
 
Leith, you've been friendzoned brah. You were a nice guy that didn't take charge...you didn't bring anything unique to the table in her eyes and unless you do something that can revitalize her perception of you, the first several impressions you gave her have been aligned with what she deems as a "friend". Additionally, girls want guys as friends just as much as we want girls as friends--but many times it is for the purpose of hooking up with their friends. Let's give her credit and say that her intentions aren't centered on that. We can safely assume that 1) she is slightly intimidated by your approach and does not want to be a prude and 2) she thinks there is nothing to lose if she can have you as a friend--you're a nice guy after all

You've already told her of your intentions and it is too late to change that. In retrospect, identify your approach and ask yourself, "Why was I nervous?" Nervousness is natural but it really is attributed to a lack of confidence, doubt, and pessimism.

For example, when her mates pushed her onto you, you should've been like "If you wanted to touch me, you could've asked ;)" -- You know, something witty and humorous that would get her a bit embarrassed. You should be the one in control with the girl...you should wear the pants.

Look at the end result here. All of your speculation and planning has failed to bring in the bacon...it is because when we are nervous and emotionally entangled with the idea of an attractive woman, our reasoning ability is impaired. You need to pay attention to body language and other cues. I believe that you made a mistake talking to her friends and telling them of your feelings. Additionally, I think you made an even bigger mistake by telling her of your feelings so after the first "date". Let her be the one to tell you those things...if it's not the right girl then all of your sweet and white-knight efforts will be to no avail.

Leith, let me tell you this. YOU DON'T KNOW THIS GIRL! She just happens to appeal to you in the most mundane and primitive way: aka physically. You will find the right girl for you eventually. The steps you need to take right now are going out with an open mind and talking to girls you're interested in. Talk to girls for practice as well...you can make friends along the way if you just become really social. Girls love confidence. Be confident and reasonable with the girl, never be pushy, and hey you can probably get it in. If you can be friends after that, then hey that is fine. And sometimes friendship precedes dating. However, in your case I can say that she is not interested in doing anything in the near future. Will you date her eventually? Who knows. It is simply a waste to speculate any further. Tell me...do you honestly think it will take longer than a few weeks to find a girl even better than her? Give it a week if you go out there with an open-mind and I'm sure you will be surprised.

I think you can still talk to her but do so without hope. Don't expect anything. Move on brah, and I know you will see success soon.
 
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EDIT - She texted me saying "i hope we can still be friends". Man... fuck her!
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Damn, I posted that just as you posted your report Leith. I'm sorry you didn't get your girl but this can lead to even MORE poontang for you, if you learn from your mistakes.

The problem with school is it's a very closed environment, the girl will probably tell all her friends so now they probably won't want to bang you either unless they are hella ugly. So it might be better getting girls from other sources e.g. cold approach. I used to approach girls on the street and in malls.

Obviously no one can give you 100% complete advice because none of us watched it in real life and a LOT of stuff is done by sub-communication which girls are remarkably brilliant at picking up on.

However a number of things are clear. First, you got the LJBF (Let's just be friends). She didn't see you as a "sexual threat" as it were, you were more traditional, go out on a date, and maybe (if you're lucky) get a kiss at the end. You should have disregarded all the religious crap as I said, because I learned from painful experience (similar to pain you may have felt at this experience) that this is all bullshit, and women want a cheerful, slightly cocky and dominant guy to lead her and bang her. Regardless of their logical beliefs, on a raw, emotional level, women are all the same, just as we men all want sex. Unless you have banged her, you should never let a girl know your "secret feelings" for her. Once you had said that to her, she got all she wanted (validation) and she had no need for anything else as she wasn't attracted. In future, you just take her home, act like you know what's going to happen but don't talk about it otherwise her logical mind i.e. "OMG I am not that type of girl" "OMG, I don't do THAT on the first date". Unfortunately, it's just the way it is. Sex comes first. After you've had sex with a girl she will get more attached to you and she will often be the one to declare her "secret feelings" to you first. I think you took too long to ask her out, and you should have maybe seen her for the first time, talked to her, found out a couple cool things about her, genuinely appreciated her for those cool things, and suggested you hang out because she seems quite cool. You pondered, planned, and delayed for too long. All this got you way too far inside your head. That's why I gave you the 15 step plan to follow like a robot. Just do it, forget all the other bullshit. Focus on the goal. Any successful date I ever had was when I did not kiss her until when we were in private and I could escalate it. Also, any successful date I ever had was when I did not give that much of a crap whether I made a dick out of myself. This lead to more ruthless escalation, and I was shocked what I could get away with on the first date. Too many guys "go for the kiss" at the end of the date. But a kiss is nothing, it shouldn't be at the end of the date, it should just be a means to and end in private to make her more horny for further advances.

The mating game is a bit like IM, it's cut-throat. Hot girls seem vulnerable and sweet, and in certain ways they are, but if you aren't up to scratch they would eat you alive and fuck with your emotions like crazy. Make no mistake, spamming all day with Xrumer has led me to become very nervous about getting back into it as well, but I know I have to. I am very rusty but after a period of epic failure and catching up, I know the experiences of ruthless escalation to the win have helped me. You really have just got to dive in there and not give a shit. Escalate ruthlessly yet smoothly, like clockwork, handle a girl's resistance smoothly, and just keep going until you get it. It really is a game, but the girls make it this way. They are master game players and only those who are wise to their tricks and facades will get into their pants. (Or, guys who do everything wrong but are just lucky as hell, yes this happens all the time.)

Don't get down on yourself Leith, we've all been through it. Just learn from it and do better next time.
 
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LOL. I just replied saying,

"fine.. friends... with benefits?"

Let's see what she says. After her reply (which I ALREADY know is gonna be "no").. Im just to simply ignore her for a week or 2.
 
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Damn, I posted that just as you posted your report Leith. I'm sorry you didn't get your girl but this can lead to even MORE poontang for you, if you learn from your mistakes.

The problem with school is it's a very closed environment, the girl will probably tell all her friends so now they probably won't want to bang you either unless they are hella ugly. So it might be better getting girls from other sources e.g. cold approach. I used to approach girls on the street and in malls.

Obviously no one can give you 100% complete advice because none of us watched it in real life and a LOT of stuff is done by sub-communication which girls are remarkably brilliant at picking up on.

However a number of things are clear. First, you got the LJBF (Let's just be friends). She didn't see you as a "sexual threat" as it were, you were more traditional, go out on a date, and maybe (if you're lucky) get a kiss at the end. You should have disregarded all the religious crap as I said, because I learned from painful experience (similar to pain you may have felt at this experience) that this is all bullshit, and women want a cheerful, slightly cocky and dominant guy to lead her and bang her. Regardless of their logical beliefs, on a raw, emotional level, women are all the same, just as we men all want sex. Unless you have banged her, you should never let a girl know your "secret feelings" for her. Once you had said that to her, she got all she wanted (validation) and she had no need for anything else as she wasn't attracted. In future, you just take her home, act like you know what's going to happen but don't talk about it otherwise her logical mind i.e. "OMG I am not that type of girl" "OMG, I don't do THAT on the first date". Unfortunately, it's just the way it is. Sex comes first. After you've had sex with a girl she will get more attached to you and she will often be the one to declare her "secret feelings" to you first. I think you took too long to ask her out, and you should have maybe seen her for the first time, talked to her, found out a couple cool things about her, genuinely appreciated her for those cool things, and suggested you hang out because she seems quite cool. You pondered, planned, and delayed for too long. All this got you way too far inside your head. That's why I gave you the 15 step plan to follow like a robot. Just do it, forget all the other bullshit. Focus on the goal. Any successful date I ever had was when I did not kiss her until when we were in private and I could escalate it. Also, any successful date I ever had was when I did not give that much of a crap whether I made a dick out of myself. This lead to more ruthless escalation, and I was shocked what I could get away with on the first date. Too many guys "go for the kiss" at the end of the date. But a kiss is nothing, it shouldn't be at the end of the date, it should just be a means to and end in private to make her more horny for further advances.

The mating game is a bit like IM, it's cut-throat. Hot girls seem vulnerable and sweet, and in certain ways they are, but if you aren't up to scratch they would eat you alive and fuck with your emotions like crazy. Make no mistake, spamming all day with Xrumer has led me to become very nervous about getting back into it as well, but I know I have to. I am very rusty but after a period of epic failure and catching up, I know the experiences of ruthless escalation to the win have helped me. You really have just got to dive in there and not give a shit. Escalate ruthlessly yet smoothly, like clockwork, handle a girl's resistance smoothly, and just keep going until you get it. It really is a game, but the girls make it this way. They are master game players and only those who are wise to their tricks and facades will get into their pants. (Or, guys who do everything wrong but are just lucky as hell, yes this happens all the time.)

Don't get down on yourself Leith, we've all been through it. Just learn from it and do better next time.

Thanks for your incredible and useful posts mate along this thread. I am very thankful for your posts, and just want to say thanks to you - and everyone who wrote something!

And yeah, I will definitely take this as a learning experience.

Il get back in touch with her in maybe a week or 2, but for now, she's of my mind. Gotta get new girls.
 
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