Getting money without gov knowing.

Big question for me now is:
What would you prefer out of these four? My mind is getting a bit confused, but I am still very grateful for learning so much on these great forums. I haven't learnt as much in 4 years of university as I am learning in my first weeks here!

1. Payoneer
2. Crypto
3. Paypal
4. Bitcoin

I think this question would be really beneficial in general to the visitors.
 
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ViridWeb said:
I think Payoneer is not a good option for him as to open Payoneer they need to verify your documents.
In our country (India) they ask for documents and the amount will withdraw automatically to our bank account which we have to add and verify with our payoneer account. So if the amount will deposit our bank account then Govt. will know that you are receiving money..
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REALLY valuable reply.

Like paypal, to withdraw, as far as I know, you need to deposit it to your cc or bank account. I don't know that much about CC, but I do know that a bank account cannot be opened anonymously, putting me in a bad place, as that is exactly what I am trying to avoid.
 
marly said:
Big question for me now is:
What would you prefer out of these four? My mind is getting a bit confused, but I am still very grateful for learning so much on these great forums. I haven't learnt as much in 4 years of university as I am learning in my first weeks here!

1. Payoneer
2. Crypto
3. Paypal
4. Bitcoin

I think this question would be really beneficial in general to the visitors.
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Crypto and Bitcoin? :confused:
Bro Bitcoin is a Crypto currency..

BTW, To hide your income from Govt. you should use Bitcoint..
You can use PayPal but not a legit account.. You can use a PayPal account using fake details but if they caught then your account will be limited..

So go with bitcoin..
 
marly said:
REALLY valuable reply.

Like paypal, to withdraw, as far as I know, you need to deposit it to your cc or bank account. I don't know that much about CC, but I do know that a bank account cannot be opened anonymously, putting me in a bad place, as that is exactly what I am trying to avoid.
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Yes whatever you are using is doesn't matter because you have to withdraw money to your bank account..
With Bitcoin Govt will not informed that you are receiving money.. Better to use Bitcoin and don't withdraw just use them on net and if you want some money then you can withdraw in small amounts..
 
ViridWeb said:
Crypto and Bitcoin? :confused:
Bro Bitcoin is a Crypto currency..

BTW, To hide your income from Govt. you should use Bitcoint..
You can use PayPal but not a legit account.. You can use a PayPal account using fake details but if they caught then your account will be limited..

So go with bitcoin..
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Excuse me! And thanks!

Yes, I am still wondering. If you save up a ****load of money on your bc, and you decide to withdraw. If you tell the gov and they take their percentage, no more reason to worry left, or will you get in trouble for the for example 5 years you've been saving without telling.

As I figure a random $100.000 being deposited and instantly withdrawn, even if they are not informed, it will look a bit weird on your bank account and eventually questions are asked about it.
 
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Convert cash into Bitcoin and then use bitcoin prepaid card to cash that money whenever required.
 
marly said:
Yes, I am still wondering. If you save up a ****load of money on your bc, and you decide to withdraw. If you tell the gov and they take their percentage, no more reason to worry left, or will you get in trouble for the for example 5 years you've been saving without telling.

As I figure a random $100.000 being deposited and instantly withdrawn, even if they are not informed, it will look a bit weird on your bank account and eventually questions are asked about it.
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Don't withdraw them all at once. But several times in a span of couple months.
 
As far as the current world currencies manipulation, securities and safety are concerned, I'd advise you to opt for cryptocurrencies...
 
but this things looks very dangerous
maybe you can end up in jail
 
open bank account in romania attach a cc to it......take the cc with u in NE....enjoy ur money without paying taxes.
 
I got prepaid cc with skrill, payoneer and first choice pay and I doubt my government has the resources to check those funds. Paypal I wouldn't trust though as it's such a white collar ass kissing company.

BTC is nice but risky and even though some say it's untraceable that is not true, straight payments CAN be traced but it would take an incredibly amount of time and resources so I doubt they would invest time in that plus if your run BTC through a tumbler then they will be untraceable for sure.
 
you could buy gold online .... physical with storage in several places around the world.
 
Payoneer. Been using it for years, never had a problem. You can use it in whatever country you want. But I don't use that card a lot here because if the GOV wants, they will find it. I pay my expenses for my business with that so they don't even know I'm getting paid and that I have expenses. You can also go to another country, get cash there, come back to your country and use the cash.
 
marly said:
Big question for me now is:
What would you prefer out of these four? My mind is getting a bit confused, but I am still very grateful for learning so much on these great forums. I haven't learnt as much in 4 years of university as I am learning in my first weeks here!

1. Payoneer
2. Crypto
3. Paypal
4. Bitcoin

I think this question would be really beneficial in general to the visitors.
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4 years of university? What did you study?

As for your topic - what amounts are we talking about? There's way more options than the four (actually three) you stated. A good bunch of online payment processors besides PayPal and Payoneer like PerfectMoney, AdvancedCash, Payeer, Neteller, Webmoney, OKPay, QiwiWallet etc. Same goes for cryptos - get yourself an overview at coinmarketcap(dot)com. And honestly whatever you choose don't stick just on one. Mix them up.

As mentioned in another post the "problem" will be the verification and proof of address due to the KYC policies. Pretty sure all the security agencies (N SA, FB I, and so on as well as your gov will get to know about your accounts in general. But if you move your cash smart from one provider to another using online ecurrency exchangers they'll have a hard time tracking you. The more if you use cryptos as secondary steps.

Some of those providers are connected to bank accounts, others (like PerfectMoney i.e.) aren't. Some offer credit/prepaid cards so you can withdraw cash at any atm, others don't.

PS: Despite of using this practices I still suggest to declare your taxes to keep the bloodhounds calm. What you are going to reveal is still up to you.

EDIT: Just be aware that you'll lose some cash with all those transactions due to the fees charged.
 
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To get an overview over the most common processors and the exchangers take a look at bestchange(dot)com
 
ViridWeb said:
I think Payoneer is not a good option for him as to open Payoneer they need to verify your documents.
In our country (India) they ask for documents and the amount will withdraw automatically to our bank account which we have to add and verify with our payoneer account. So if the amount will deposit our bank account then Govt. will know that you are receiving money..
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Yes exactly,no matter which payment processor we are using, we need to submit our dosuments like PAN. PAN is the main thing that will be used to tarck incomes and tax.
So, my suggestion is to use cryptocurrency.
 
gov's and investigating authorities would never take that effort to chase someone, without knowing you a big Wale making millions or big illegal ne twork behind everything. just because investigating are expensive.

I think payoneer sounds good.
but definitely bitcoin is saver, just spend money with a virgin wallet and all fine.

ask your tax consultant there are many legal ways how you can save taxes.
 
Thanks for your valuable information.
 
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