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Getting money without gov knowing.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by marly, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. marly

    marly Junior Member

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    The question is short, my government doesn't like earning on the side that much. Is there any way to earn cash and store it in a place online without it having to reach your actual bank account, and still getting to use the money, without the gov knowing about it directly (like filling your ABN).
     
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    Bitcoin, paypal. Just dont use your own bank account details for anything.
     
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  3. marly

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    Very nice, thanks for your great information!

    Allow me to be a noob for a sec. Last week I tried to buy steroids online for my dad. Two options: Sending money per mail, sending money by bitcoin.

    What is so special about bitcoin? Is it sorth of paypal?

    Don't feel like you have to reply, a simple google would suffice I just want to conversate and learn. :)
     
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    You can also store your money at a friend, and he will pay for the things you want
     
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    Bitcoin is cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency is not owned by any bank in any country. and untraceable. People can see to which address it goes, but they cant see to whom the address belongs to. Nor can they ever find out. The only issue is. You have to make sure you get the product. Because once its send there is no going back.

    But its far from paypal. You should do your research first before buying some.
     
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    bitcoin, then sell it at your local/cash
     
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    Bitcoin is thought of as a stealth currency, so you can be anonymous when buying/selling.

    Keep in mind though, it's easier to get scammed using it and you'll lose your payment with no refunds.
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but besides Paypal & Bitcoin, you can also store your money on Payoneer. It does provide a prepaid Mastercard which is pretty useful.
     
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    Bitcoin will be the best option for you..
     
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    You can also get prepaid mastercards which allow you to buy online and withdraw funds anywhere worldwide, it's not linked to bank accounts
     
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    On a sidenote maybe just pay your taxes as a noob. There have been much more skilled people been fucked in the ass.
     
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    Why would someone buy steroids for his dad!! I heard that stuff is bad, isn't it ?

    To answer your question, the most untraceable anonymous stuff would be cryptocurrencies. They're still pretty much volatile, so you might lose some money.
     
  14. marly

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    I just saw it thank you very much sir!

    So when hearing this I come to think that there is always a serious risk involved? There's no way to make it show as 'side-money', you know, an extra small cash flow for a hobby, until you may accidentily make a huge income out of it, things change for me.

    Thanks a great lot sir!
     
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    +1 for Payoneer. Very easy.
     
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    Use cryptocurrency as everyone advised and you will be in safe hand
     
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    I suppose you're from the Netherlands?! So I assume Germany and Netherlands would differ but not that much. So I guess for some poket money you can be good to go, but you should have a talk with a tax accountant to be sure. also there are a lot of boards on the net that deal with that kind a stuff. Maybe it's enough to go for a "Eenmanszaak".

    you could check http://www.starter-portal.eu/
     
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    In my opinion, the best solution is to use Payoneer. Payoneer is smh similar to PayPal. You will be given a virtual US or Europe bank account and they will ship you a MasterCard to with draw your funds from any ATM machine. There is no link to your local bank account.
     
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    PayPal provide acces to account for governments, if they have suspicion. At least at my country. That is my experience, i did not pay taxes from my online business, i was only using paypal and i never send money to my normal account. I was lucky, my governent is quite allright and i just got fine of unpaid income.

    Bitcoin is safer option
     
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    I think Payoneer is not a good option for him as to open Payoneer they need to verify your documents.
    In our country (India) they ask for documents and the amount will withdraw automatically to our bank account which we have to add and verify with our payoneer account. So if the amount will deposit our bank account then Govt. will know that you are receiving money..
     
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