- Jun 20, 2015
- 5,246
- 804
Recently, i have seen like lots of discussion threads about getting cited in AI Overviews / ChatGPT.
Cool everyone is aware of the recent trend in SEO, but I think there’s a bigger issue that nobody is really talking about how stable are these citations actually?
I’ve been monitoring this on a few projects and one thing that stands out is the churn. A page gets cited this week, I checked it a week/month later and it’s gone. No ranking drop, no major content change, no link loss. It just stops getting mentioned. As AI systems are constantly re-evaluating and re-sampling sources rather than treating one source as a permanent winner. This makes clear that AI citations are also not a one time process like SEO.
What most people say in discussion is “just structure your content properly" "traditional SEO is fine", "AI SEO is just for name shake nothing really changes" and "optimize page for AI citations”, I agree to an extent. Better structure, clear answers, topical coverage, entity clarity, strong content, and authority all make sense. But everyone here have to understand that getting cited once is doesn't mean you are having stable AI visibility.
What I’m more interested in now is citation consistency over time.
Most case studies I see are about "how they started and where its now"
Nobody seems to be showing what happened 30, 60 or 90 days later.
The other problem is clients.
More clients are asking for “ChatGPT rankings” or “get us into AI Overviews”, but a lot of them don't really understand what they're asking for.
Personally, I’d rather recommend it as improving the probability and consistency of AI visibility alongside traditional SEO, rather than promising permanent citations as replacement of traditional SEO.
Curious if anyone here is actually tracking this over time.
Have you seen pages gain AI citations and then lose them without any obvious SEO change?
Cool everyone is aware of the recent trend in SEO, but I think there’s a bigger issue that nobody is really talking about how stable are these citations actually?
I’ve been monitoring this on a few projects and one thing that stands out is the churn. A page gets cited this week, I checked it a week/month later and it’s gone. No ranking drop, no major content change, no link loss. It just stops getting mentioned. As AI systems are constantly re-evaluating and re-sampling sources rather than treating one source as a permanent winner. This makes clear that AI citations are also not a one time process like SEO.
What most people say in discussion is “just structure your content properly" "traditional SEO is fine", "AI SEO is just for name shake nothing really changes" and "optimize page for AI citations”, I agree to an extent. Better structure, clear answers, topical coverage, entity clarity, strong content, and authority all make sense. But everyone here have to understand that getting cited once is doesn't mean you are having stable AI visibility.
What I’m more interested in now is citation consistency over time.
Most case studies I see are about "how they started and where its now"
Nobody seems to be showing what happened 30, 60 or 90 days later.
The other problem is clients.
More clients are asking for “ChatGPT rankings” or “get us into AI Overviews”, but a lot of them don't really understand what they're asking for.
- Some think it’s a ranking position.
- Some think it’s a one-time optimization.
- Some think AI SEO is just traditional SEO with a new name tag.
Personally, I’d rather recommend it as improving the probability and consistency of AI visibility alongside traditional SEO, rather than promising permanent citations as replacement of traditional SEO.
Curious if anyone here is actually tracking this over time.
Have you seen pages gain AI citations and then lose them without any obvious SEO change?