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Fucking Microsoft & W10

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by JustUs, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. JustUs

    JustUs Power Member

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    I do not use Windows 10, except an Enterprise version in a virtual machine. My every day runs 8.1 with Classic Shell installed. I have stepped through some nasty hoops to remove all the demands to install Windows 10, all the preloaders, and everything else. I have gone as far as to shut off automatic updates because MS is no longer trust worthy. I hunted through my installation and removed all of the telemetrics to Microsoft. I even refuse to install updates until they have been out for a few weeks so that I can see the troubles others have had and avoid them.

    In spite of all my effort, Microsoft snuck two more Windows ten nags in on me disguised as security updates for Explorer 11. Both were wrapped in a single update, KB3139929. I noticed it when I opened my notification area. When I clicked on that little upward pointing chevron to see what I had running in the background, there was that little get Windows 10 icon sticking its tongue out at me. I saw instant red; after all the day before I took a ball peen hammer to a tablet that attempted to install W10 the day before and would not let me shut the installation off.

    Having bee through the primrose park before, I began hunting. It did not take long at all on the Web to find the offending update. I uninstalled it. Ain't life a bitch; even though uninstalled, the machine insisted on attempting to update. Been there before too. Ran down to the Windows directory and attempted to delete everything in the GWX directory and the syswow64/GWX directory. Microsoft decided that those directories could not be under a users control which force me to take ownership of them. I could delete everything but the GWX.exe file in both directories. I'm thinking WTF!!!

    Well, I enable the administrative account and log in to it to delete those two files. The computer just smirked. Though in the administrative account, I was given a message of "The user does not have permission to perform the action." WTF!!! I am in the normally disabled and inactive administrative account (net user administrator /active:yes) and I lack permission to delete a file? So I fired up the registry editor and found what was locking the file and deleted the lock. The I deleted the files.

    I thought two can play this game, so I put locks on both GWX directory and revoked permissions for the trusted installer to access those directories.

    Now it was time to remove the scheduled tasks. I opened the task manager and went to delete the two tasks that start the W10 installer. Again I was told "User lacks permission." WTF!! X 2. Out come regedit again and I hunt up the offending entries in the registry. After finding the entries, then I attempted to delete the path to the executable. "No permission." WTF!! I attempt to change the permission, again "No permission." At this point I was pissed. I back out one more level and delete the key.

    When will Microsoft get the idea that though they are intent on forcing Windows 10 down our throats, there are those of us that are just as determined to prevent that from occurring.

    MS: TAKE YOUR FREE OS AND STUFF IT!
     
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    i love my win7 ultimate still works fine for what i need
    still supported til 2020 - good enough for me
     
  3. Aatrox

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    Windows 10 is piece of shit compared to Windows 7 if you ask me. It's buggy, it crashes, have some features that I hate... Eventually, I just gave up and installed OS X and now have hackintosh. Love it.
     
  4. JustUs

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    MS has managed to install the tracking and spyware into Windows 7, and 8, and 8.1 that they have in W10. In 10 it is more advanced though.

    you might want to run the following as a bat (batch) file in cmd in administrative mode:

    Code:
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3065988 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075853 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3065987 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3050265 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3050267 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075851 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2902907 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:971033 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3046480 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3083325 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3083324  /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3146449  /quiet /norestart 
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3139929 /quiet /norestart 
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3134813  /quiet /norestart
    If it is there, the Windows uninstaller will kill it.
     
  5. JustUs

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    I have a hackintosh in a VM. Don't much care for a friends Mac with OSX.
     
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    Unless you know what you're doing, don't take batch advice from a rookie off a blackhat forum.

     
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  7. JustUs

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    You are always free to do your own research. Then you will have the ability to speak of rookie.
     
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    Telling the truth for me XP was already good enough, Win 7 was better, i have never used Win 8 or 8.1. I switched to Win 10 a few months ago, i'm pleased with it so far, no crashes for me, it's stable, the programs run smoother than on Win 7, memory usage optimization is also better. Firefox uses half the memory on average than what it consumed on Win 7. The system doesn't start to lag even after weeks of uptime, which isn't true for any previous Win OS i used.

    The only thing i don't like about Win 10, that you can't cycle through the pictures in a directory with the built-in Photo Viewer, you need to open them one by one, that's seriously fucked up, but i tackled that with installing Windows Photo Viewer of Win 7.
     
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    I have been using Windows 10 ever since it was released. Its performing really good for me. Any reason why you are so skeptical?
     
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    I had the same yesterday morning, booted laptop up to find after the latest Windows update, my machine spent over 50 minutes installing Windows 10.

    Thus far, it seems to be working fine ( hope I am not tempting fate here ), but I have all along declined the upgade and I am not happy that it was 'forced ' upon me.
     
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    Memory usage on 7 sucks compared to 10, but I'll stick with 7 as long as it's possible
     
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    I just upgraded my PC to windows 10 this morning, looks pretty good for me. Should I get back to windows 7 what do you recommend?
     
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    Glad i stuck with Windows 7 on my main machine. But they got this stupid nag screen to upgrade that pops up.

    I have Windows 10 on a laptop and the shit reboots without warning and upgrades with no control over it. I never reboot unless I absolutely have to because I always have work up on the screen. This fucking laptop just reboots in the middle of the night and wipes everything I have open.

    Seriously thinking about ditching Windows at this point. I'm keeping Windows 7 I think on my new PC. Windows 7 is great.
     
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    This is why we use Google. A few searches and some reading would have saved you your troubles. :D
     
  16. JustUs

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    There are a few reasons. Some of them date back to the time of the anti-trust suits that MS had with the federal government. In that issue, a secret deal was cut between MS and the feds. MS installed malware (spyware) into XP that was sold in China. This is the reason that the Chinese government will not allow Windows to be sold in China unless MS allows the Chinese government to examine the source code.

    Another reason is that the software I have on my computer, and the software I write, and the private documents I have from others, and the business records I have on computers are mine and mine alone. This does not mean mine and Microsoft's to share with whom they may (and they do).

    Another reason is that I choose to keep close control over updates, with the exception of the LTSB versions of Enterprise, MS takes this away. Even some of the lower versions of the Enterprise OS only allow you to delay the installation of updates.

    Another reason shared by many that believe in privacy and security is to stay away from Windows 10 because of the massive security problems.

    Even with the Enterprise versions of W10 communication with the Windows servers and IP's cannot be completely stopped because they are hard coded into the OS and due to this bypass the firewall and hosts file.

    If so much of what I do was not locked into Windows as an OS, I would not use Windows at all. As is, when the time comes I will move to Linux again and only run Windows in a virtual machine using NAT (Network Address Translation) through the host rather than bridging the VM to the router. This would be so that I could lock out known MS spy IP's with Iptables.
     
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  17. Aatrox

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    You should at least try it. It's awesome. If you don't need your usual mainstream games, you can do everything. I assume you have a VPS for all your tools.
     
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    Why do you keep the updates on?

    First thing I do on a new machine is disable the updates, the firewall, the action center, and the other 80 (or so) Windows services. Then I install custom Firewall and block everything I find.

    Last laptop = 3 years, not a single virus.
     
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    I was against it as well but the more I have used windows 10 the more I am starting to like it.
    As soon as I can afford my new computer I will be 100% going to windows 10:)