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From rags to $4,000 per month

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by gluco3, Oct 8, 2011.

  1. gluco3

    gluco3 Registered Member

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    It certainly isn't riches but bloody hell is enough to support me and my lifestyle. And on top of that, I wasn't in rags to start with because I have a badass day job that pays extremely well, but hell, it sounded catchy.

    Most of the crap I read here and there are just nubs repeating noobs repeating retards. There is no magic formula. There is no secret to Google. Google is a big a** company and the algorithm is frickin' complicated.

    Here is my story and what I've learned.

    Website and Types
    My goal is passive income. In order to earn passive income, I need to be hands free. That means I can either hire someone to write content for me or use crowd-sourcing. I prefer crowd-sourcing as it is free. If you don't know what crowd-sourcing is, look it up.

    What allows for crowd-sourcing? Easy, forums... Like this one. In fact, I'm doing harro a favor right now by posting this guide, I'm adding content to his site 100% free. There are other types of crowd-sourcing platforms as well such as question and answer sites but Forums are by far the biggest and easiest. Much of what I say will be in regards to forums.

    I do have a blog that is fully automated - not autoblog/robot blog, but automated by real writers. It gets a ton of traffic as well but it had a considerable cost associated with getting the content and it still does which sucks. Again, I recommend forums.

    You can create a forum about any topic. People are passionate about everything. You don't even need to know the subject but it certainly helps if you do.

    Getting Content Keywords that rank easily
    I like to steal keywords. :) I goto competitor sites and then check their Alexa. Alexa has the keywords that the Alexa users use to reach the site. If the site is still high in Alexa, it is generally easy to steal searches for these keywords. I don't copy it word for word, but I take the keyword and either write it myself (in the beginning) or pay someone else to write it.

    You'll also get content and easily ranked keywords for free once you grow your site large enough to crowd-source (if you take this path, young grasshopper).

    Time Frame
    For me to get a site up and to an acceptable level, it takes 6-12 months. Success is typically 5,000-20,000 UVs per day.

    It is important to take your time if you intention is an authority site that you want to last. I've banned a couple of sites so far down in Google I just ditched them all because I was impatient. Trust me, just wait and be persistent.

    SEO and Outsourcing
    I use the Clusterf**k SEO method. It is a method where you use quantity over quality for backlinks but mostly do deeplinking. Search it up for more.

    Outsourcing. I try to outsource everything. As I said, I have a great 9-5 job and all the money I earn from websites goes back into websites (all $4,000 each month). What do I outsource?

    Content
    Link Building
    Posting on my Forums
    Posting on Other Forums

    I've found a team of people that I've had on hire for over 12 months. I pay every Friday, usually $20-$50 per person.

    When it comes to link building, as I said, use any method possible but also find your own methods. Think outside the box. Hire people to FIND links for you.

    I also am a big fan of signature links. I have over 300 forum accounts with 50-150 posts on each, every one containing 3-6 links. :D I have a guy that I use who creates these for me. These work so much better than Profile Links and they actually get clicks, if you are looking for traffic too. If you want his listing, just ask.

    How Many Hours do I work?
    On websites, all of my free time. I hope to replace my day job with this soon but I need to be hands free, like I said.

    Services and Sites used
    I read a ton of books about Google and I always suggest reading actual books. Not these crap ebooks that these nubs who have been doing SEO for 2 entire days write. I mean books that are actually written by writers and sold on sites like Amazon.

    Blogs like Google Official Blog (important to read), SEOMoz, etc

    Forums like this one, WTF, V7N, Warrioforum. Forums are great but you have to heed through the nubs. They are also great for signature links like I mentioned above. :D

    For outsourcing I use Scriptlance mostly (easy to post, easy to pay), seoclerks, fiverr (these are mostly crap jobs) and various forum marketplaces (mentioned above).

    Software I use is Bookmarking Demon mostly. I have ZennoPoster, Scrapebox and Scrapeboard but I rarely ever use them except for when backlinking my backlinks (described in the ClusterF**k method).

    For pinging I use Pingfarm but formerly used PingDevice.

    Parting Words
    If I had to say one thing to you as an IM/Blackhatter I'd say: "Persistence and dedication is the key". Keep at it and you'll succeed.

    Ask me anything and press the thanks if you find this helpful in any way. If not, f**k you.
     
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  2. download

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    Can you clarify this for me? This seems to just be targeting your competitor's keywords to me.
     
  3. gluco3

    gluco3 Registered Member

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    It is - being high in Alexa is easy to steal their SERP position. This is what I meant, really. I've reworded the title and wording so that it reflects this.
     
  4. sean3000

    sean3000 Newbie

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    Can you provide me with the contact info for this guy?
     
  5. GlobalP

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    Nice post OP.

    Like a few others I am very interested in how you go about getting your competitors keywords and decide what is worth going after and what not.

    I guess I don't quite get what you do in that department.

    Anyways, appreciate the tips, success story and drive you have.
     
  6. gluco3

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    I use this guy here: http://www.seoclerks.com/Forums/15/Make-high-quality-60-posts-on-any-Forum

    I've used him for months now. Just tell him what type of forums you want signature links on and he will make it.

    I use the Alexa method I mentioned above. My goal is traffic rather than high paying keywords though. I believe most people on here spend their time searching for high paying but I could care less. So, excusing payment per click, I target what people are searching for and that is really easy to find.

    I forgot to mention in my original post that I use BuySellAds as my primary source of income. BSA cares about impressions, alexa rating, delicious bookmarks, etc. This helps explain why I care for traffic rather than high paying keywords. It is important to have a broad niche that people want to advertise in, though.

    Another important fact is that once you build an authority site that has traffic, the users build your content via crowd-sourcing so you don't really do any keyword research at that point. I worked with a huge company that called this "User-generated Magic". :)

    However, I find myself often editing user titles to make them more searchable.

    Methods of income I have are:
    BSA
    Footer Link Sales
    Side Link Sales
    Adsense (minimal, it shows up when a BSA ad is not sold)
    In Text Link Network

    I've learned that if you focus on earning strictly from Adsense, you have a tough road ahead of you and the daily ups and downs are crazy. I use to check Adsense EVERY hour!! One day I'd earn $75, the next I'd earn $15 and it drove me insane! I also spent so much time searching for keywords that paid high rather than just building a good authority site with content. I also went through the micro niche phase that swept the internet. LOL
     
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  7. Gudrulea

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    Hy man.

    Really nice story and motivational. I have one question for you, please: What's the profit (after you pay all writers) and how many websites do you own? In the moment, im having 2 websites with 1000-2000 per day and making like 3-4E.

    Im making the same in my country and the alexa's keyword suggestion is very good, thank you.

    Also...

    do you have any advices about this?

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/351305-search-engine-optimization-long-tail-keywords.html

    Thank you so much.
     
  8. citylightz

    citylightz Registered Member

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    Thanks for the tip on Alexa, I haven't looked at that site for ages. It looks like it has some useful info on the competition.

    Also, I just recently bought BMD. You said that you use that software the most. How do you use it? Is it still effective? Any tips would be appreciated.
     
  9. photoman

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    Thanks for the great post. Do you find it difficult to find forums that allow 3-6 links in your posts?
     
  10. gluco3

    gluco3 Registered Member

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    I own and promote 7, however, the majority of my money comes from 2 with a third upcoming. Soon I'll make money from all 7 and my goal is $10k per month right now.

    For long tail keywords like just get backlinks with that phrase in it and make sure you do proper onsite SEO for that phrase. I've found title is most important.

    Yeah, while the information isn't great or abundant, it is a ton.

    Since I outsource it I don't have to find them at all. :) There are many that only allow 2 links and if they are high enough PR I just get multiple accounts on those forums.
     
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  11. larrydozier

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    I outsource as well so it saves a lot of time.
     
  12. orzyman

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    thanks for the heads up
     
  13. pjv

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    I like your goal for passive income.
    How do you go about creating your forums?
    What software do you use.
     
  14. ascura

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    Can you tell me how you 'train' your courage in investing your money?
    I'm super serious, lol.

    I know it's one of the key factor, reinvesting your income.
    But heck, it;s really not an easy thing to do, at least for me.
    I do reinvest some each month but not on that kind of %
    You reinvest 100%?
    If I can force myself to keep reinvesting 25% each month....
    (I can live well with 50% of my income, so basically I can reinvest 25% and save 25%)

    Seriously, how do you guys can train your mentallity into such level?
    That leads me to think... Am I the only 'coward' here?

    Thanks.
     
  15. xenter

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    awesome post op,

    Where do you get your content? Is so tough to get writers that are consistent and have actual shit to say and not just fillers... and have no grammatical errors.
     
  16. SuperBlackHat

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    hell of a thread, might have to try this.
     
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    OP: Can you list some of the ?real? books that you have benefited by?
     
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    Could you please provide link to "WTF" forum. I would greatly appreciate that.
     
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    rehnquist Newbie

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    Thank you for the tips and tricks.

    Really appreciated.
     
  20. Dubtube

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    Major props to you, and congrats on your success. May it last you many, many years to come!