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    There's been much discussion recently on the efficacy of char-code spinning, and so I thought I'd publish this comprehensive Case-Study and SEO Analysis that I did over the last 8 weeks (since most of the Panda changes.) I do this 3 times per year as a sanity-check for all our tools suite.

    Content Used:
    I wanted to test/prove this concept WITHOUT the use of original content (as otherwise I wouldn't be testing the char-spinning element.) So I chose a PR 4 wikipedia page - as I wanted something well established and well-indexed already as a comparative.

    Wikipedia Scraped Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed-in_tariffs_in_the_United_Kingdom

    Submission Technique & Tool:
    Advanced (letter-level as opposed to word-level) Char-Spinning was output from our tool-set with the density cranked up to almost max level - to see if it had any negative indexing affects. (Around 80% of words had some letters spun throughout each word - but not all letters in the word.)


    • A Single AMR (Article Marketing Robot) submission was performed on 09/09/2011 with 964 'successful' submits achieved across 1200 directory D'Base (including some imported dir's.)
    • Every article was seeded with the unique author name: "Kristy B. D. Burns-Mullins." for easy index-checking.
    • There was no 2nd tier/supporting back-linking of any type done at all. It was purely the AMR run here.
    • The submission created links to many different landing pages, using around 50 different varied anchors.


    Results:
    Google (UK) is showing 890 exact match search results (including 'supplemental' index pages which they show in their headline numbers) for search query: "Kristy B. D. Burns-Mullins."

    ScrapeBox returns 89 primary fully-indexed page URL's from Google (See list at bottom of post.)

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    Google Result #1 is : http://freearticlesonline.net/?p=799

    Viewing this page's source code (CTRL 'U' for Firefox/Chrome|Alt 'V' then 'C' for IE) clearly shows the char-spinning codes have been embedded.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: This level of char-spinning is too high for 'real' use - as it obfuscates too much content and will actually impede rankings for relevant keywords - as Google has less content to use for keyword estimation. (Although it still has the page-title which is the most important - and NOT char-spun. Titles should NEVER be char-spun under ANY circumstances.) For effective commercial use, we use the copyscape standard of 4-word quanta, which yields an average of 60% untouched content and 40% part-letter-spun content. You can see our explanation page listed below for more details on understanding this.

    If we take the 1st line from the 2nd Paragraph of the Google #1 result page:

    "The Feed-In Tariff applies to small-scale generation of electricity, paying a fixed sum for eligible technologies."

    Then you can see it's on the wikipedia page - the first line in the first paragraph under the 'Scope' sub-heading.

    If you want to check/prove it for yourself, you'll need to 'UN-Char-Spin' the line when you copy it out of the article page; you can do this at: http://www.ubertoolz.com/demo/CleanUp.php and then search for:

    <Wikipedia "unspun line above...">

    This submission currently supports the no 15 spot on google (UK) for keyword "solar water heating panels" - (keyword seen 'in-content' on page,) but many different keywords were seeded into multiple extended anchors across around 10 different landing pages on this one submission. Plus, other SEO has been done to this page: the ranking effect isn't down to this one article; but that wasn't what this test was about. It was about testing the Char-Spinning technique.

    Conclusion & Supporting Data:
    This test clearly shows that Char-Spinning an already-indexed medium-PR page gets it treated as unique content by Google. Of 964 successful submissions, 890 made it into the supplemental index, and 89 were in the primary index. Of the 890 in the supplemental index, many could be brought into the primary index through 2nd and 3rd tier linking strategies providing links to those article pages (which is what we do every day with our normal submissions.)

    NOTE: We NEVER use Wikipedia scraped content in real-life; it would be foolish: Don't do that! It was only used an example/test for this investigation. We always use 'original' (and braces-spun) content for all our submissions; and you should too.

    For an in-depth explanation of how Char-Spinning actually works (with examples) see our page: http://www.ubertoolz.com/CharSpinning.html

    You can also see our Advanced Char-Spinning Tool on our Demo Page: http://www.ubertoolz.com/demo/CharSpin.php


    Any questions or comments... Post 'em here!


    The Following Data is the ScrapeBox 'Google scrape' of "Kristy B. D. Burns-Mullins.":
    HTML:
    http://ahowtoarticle.com/updates-on-green-energy-installation-practical-training-courses.html
    http://articlechamber.com/green-engineering-vocational-training-courses-511
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    http://articlemsthemes.thebitbot.com/reference-and-education/insights-on-domestic-green-energy-training.html
    http://articles.teiranho.com/green-engineering-career-convenient-courses
    http://articlesplaza.org/education/simplifying-solar-energy-commercial-self-paced-certification-training
    http://articoolz.com/2011/09/thoughts-on-solar-pv-installation-trade-home-study-certification-training-courses
    http://astawerks.net/inside-domestic-green-energy-convenient-training
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    http://blog.christianebuddy.com/2010/06/li_class/page/2
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    http://competearticles.com/2011/09/08/thoughts-on-solar-pv-installation-trade-home-study-certification-training-courses
    http://ezineeditor.com/an-update-on-green-energy-installation-trade-self-study-convenient-certification-training
    http://faxtoemail.in/tag/marketing/page/32
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    http://solar.carboncapturereport.org/cgi-bin//profiler?key=kristy_b_d_burns_mullins&pt=2
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  2. jascoken

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    I'm getting PM's asking Q's about Char-Spinning technique...

    Can I refer everyone to the bottom of the main post (i know it's a big one!) :

    For an in-depth explanation of how Char-Spinning actually works (with examples) see our page: http://www.ubertoolz.com/CharSpinning.html

    You can also see our Advanced Char-Spinning Tool on our Demo Page: http://www.ubertoolz.com/demo/CharSpin.php


    Any questions or comments... Post 'em here!
     
  3. phpbuilt

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    Its interesting and something to think about.

    My first devils-advocate debunk thought that comes to mind is I wonder how the exact same article from wikipedia would have fared on an article submission unspun.

    The point of this is to show everyone how well character swapping works to get pages indexed, right? The only way to know it has an advantage as a test case is to submit it side-by-side with an unspun version and prove it has better saturation then, right?

    I'm at a disadvantage to know how well an unspun article submits, because I don't submit unspun articles (but I conventionally spin, not character spin). So as far as I know, you could have submitted the same article unspun and it'd have just as many indexes.

    Next thought is ... the whole gist of this is that a fully indexed page (indexed because of character swapping makes it more unique) has more weight than an unspun page that was thrown into supplemental for being duplicate. An educated guess would say its a possibility, but no one knows that for certain. It could very well be that the backlink on a page in Google's supplemental index has just as much, if not more weight than a page in the index that is poorly worded, bad grammar and contains less LSI related terms because those words happened to have been destroyed with character swapping.

    The goal shouldn't be to see how many pages you can get indexed ... the goal is SERP boosts. Pages indexed may equate into SERP increases ... only way to know that for certain is to test it out.

    I'd like to see a test that involves the same setup, but one control that is 100% unspun on submission, and one that is spun on submission, and each promote a similar quality website ... and see which website does better in the SERPs.

    My biggest objection to this all is that I've got friends who swear it doesn't matter whether an article is spun or not, they submit the same unspun article multiple times, they get SERP improvements. To me, that suggests pages in supplemental have value. I also know that (on important pages), Google does latent semantic indexing to discover whether important topic-related-terms are on the page ... and those words will be destroyed during character swapping.
     
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    Pages in supplemental index absolutely DO provide juice. It was not my intention to say they didn't. But fully indexed pages will pass more.

    The fact that 890 out of 964 got into either index is pretty astounding. A non-spun document would not have achieved anything like this, and after 60 days (which it's been almost,) Google would have filtered out most of the duplicates by now.

    In our tests, we see duplicate content runs getting about 1/3 - 1/2 the take-up rate of properly spun content, but the drop-off over 30-90 days is enormous - as Google filters it out of their index over this period. Google also doesn't place much weight on a 'new' link. It provides more juice over time, so most of the initial duplicate content links don't get the time to make much difference.

    I know black-hatters who spam enormous amounts of dupe-content on auto-pilot. But it's a vicious circle as Google gets more and more severe on the filters - as this years 3 Panda updates have shown. Using non-dupe content will give longer lasting results: We've got links from spun and char-spun articles that are years old; which we wouldn't have if they were duped-content.

    I believe this is where the change is happening with SEO now. Black-Hat methods are meeting grey-hat content to provide better results than pure black-hat spamming.

    And to your last point: You should 'protect' all keyword rich text from being char-spun, (our tool does - see the demo at http://www.ubertoolz.com/demo/CharSpin.php ).

    BTW: LSI in it's truest sense is a myth. As any senior database/systems programmer will tell you (I'm one), implementing LSI is an incredibly time-consuming prcoessing task, and it grows exponentially/factorially with the size of the DBase as it's multi-dimensional. There literally isn't computing resource on the planet to handle LSI for even 10% of Google's Trillion pages. The math/logic involved is simply colossal. LSI has become a buzz-word that really means some basic topic/keyword AI (artificial intelligence) - which Google achieves by the way it stores page data for search.

    Thanks for your comments phpbuilt! Glad someone was inspired to at least think about it!
     
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    I wonder where you got your idea. hmmmmmmmmmm
     
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    Nice signature ;)
     
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    I wonder where you got yours. ;)
     
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    I take it you have a char-spinning tool too - from your signature?

    Come on mate... This is not an original idea. ;)

    We wrote this tool over 4 years ago and have been using it like bazonkers ever since. And I knew people back in 2007 who introduced ME to the idea.

    The software behind the tool in our suite hasn't really changed in all that time.

    I'm surprised that you're 'hinting' that you're the originator of the idea?!
     
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    Regarding everyone wondering who copied who for character spinning ...

    Code:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/140562-video-proof-easily-ranking-2-minutes-someone-elses-content-original-author-relegated.html
    Dated 11/02/2009. If you can beat that date congratulations, you're the original character spinner. Incidentally, they registered their domain in 2007 so ... anyways ...

    Regarding something being too processing intensive for Google to do it, I sincerely believe that any page that ranks top 10 for an important query not only gets an LSI check, they get a manual review as well.

    Not trying to be a jerk about it but if I'm seeing a case study, I want to know how well it performs against the norm. (i.e. this is how it performs against not spinning at all, this is how well it performs against a conventional word spin, these are various SERP results that were gained by using these techniques). I see positive results there, I'll definitely be an advocate of the method.

    1st article in list is a 404 ...
    2nd article in list is a suspended page ...

    (should we make the case that 404's and suspended pages rank the very best in Google?) Actually I see expired domains retain pages in index for 6 months, if they can't get accurate info on the page it just stays indexed forever it seems ... so the fact many are still showing in index doesn't mean much to me unless they are actually located there.

    Code:
    http://blog.christianebuddy.com/2010/06/li_class/page/2
    http://blog.christianebuddy.com/tag/education/page/2
    http://blog.christianebuddy.com/tag/energy
    3 pages on same domain ranking original page + 2 tags = duplicate content. Is this a case study how duplicate content indexes so well it stays out of supplemental? Having 3 pages like that out of supplemental is actually making the case that submitting the original over and over again is just as good as spinning characters, right? All pages like that in the results should not be counted towards character spinning in a positive way, if anything in a negative way.

    There's 89 in the list, after you remove duplicate domains there's 76, with the rest in supplemental? And just how many out of the 800+ in supplemental are actually tags, categories and page 2's? Because the duplicate content is supposed to go into supplemental, I'd think there would be a whole lot more of them there ... that 800+ actually represents only a couple hundred domains maybe?

    I'm here ready and willing to be impressed by character spinning, just give me a reason to be. Show me SERP result improvements or at least accurate counts of unique domains indexed if that's what the case study is supposed to be about.
     
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    As I said, I don't claim originality. We wrote ours in mid 2007, but we got the idea from somone who'd come up with the idea in 2006.

    If you move in dev. groups, as I do, this sort of stuff is common. Coders are always looking at theoretical stuff way in advance of commercial use. I suspect that this method was in use long before there was a commercial use for it. Maybe even by accident, where a parseing algorithm went amuck?!

    I get where you're coming from... But we know it works; we've been using it for 4+ years. The test is merely to see if anything untoward crops up - which we test all our techniques for. I don't need to do comparatives; this wasn't about proving anything to anyone excepy my own internal numbers.

    The bottom line is results. If a method gives you more links that stick after 30-90 days, then it's worth using. Lots of methods will give you extra links for 30-60 days, but will then drop out of the index.

    I ALWAYS recommend using char-spinning on well-spun original content in the first place - it's just 'another' way of increasing the permutations of spin. It's not a magic bullet.

    Do your own tests; don't take my word for it....

    Since you've engaged in the debate, (and thank you for that, it's great when someone offers up intelligent opinion and comments,) if you'd like to go deeper, with comparatives, then I would probably be prepared to give you free access to our tools to have a play.
     
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    WOW what great information got this thread thanks a lot for this case study
     
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    i was ready to join since you have the article builder API integrated.. but cannot find this is this still valid??

    thanks

    bluecoyote
     
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    something different that most other SEO's arent trying is always exciting. Think about how little you hear about others spinning at the character level? This is the first. Thanks for opening up a whole new world of innovation in the AMR world!