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thekidwithstars said:
Warning - Pad your CPA offers with junk traffic or another legitimate source. This converts at a VERY high rate and you don't want to raise suspicion.
I highly recommend creating a landing page, but that's optional.

What does this mean? Newb here. Genius method btw. I love you.
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A lot of sponsors will get weary when your traffic converts at a very high rate.

Let's say you are sending 1,000 hits a day and you are converting something crazy like 1:5. That is an instant red flag considering their average conversions are something like 1:300 or something. It's just way too unnatural.

The reason the conversions are so much higher is because you are dealing directly with the customer. In most cases these are just your usual banners where people click by accident and instantly x out of the window. Thus most of the time they don't produce a sale.

The important thing is this....... When a sponsor see's this they will start to audit your traffic. If your sponsor does not allow this type of traffic you're going to get banned. So you're either going to have to have a good relationship with a sponsor or do what thekidwithstars suggested and pad your stats with junk traffic to make it look more natural.
 
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Tell me please, I live in Europe, I can use this method of Russia? CPA working in Russia? I'm just good to know St. Petersburg and the Russian language.
 
I just stumbled over this thread while I was searching something completely irrelevant to this thread. lol
Anyway, it was nice to read. This is indeed "thinking-outside-of-the-box" ^^

Good job OP
 
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So after a day of half-heartedly attempting this method I made $56.00 f****n dollars! While that's not much to some, for about an hours worth of work, that's amazing, especially considering I didn't even start responding to emails until the next day which is why I only made $56.00 I essentially added my own spins to this method and changed up the pitch. Now that I see the money in this I'm going to scale it up and milk it for everything it worth! My first $56 dollar day, f#$&ing awesome! Thanks a lot for this method dude.
 
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Kidmars19 said:
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So after a day of half-heartedly attempting this method I made $56.00 f****n dollars! While that's not much to some, for about an hours worth of work, that's amazing, especially considering I didn't even start responding to emails until the next day which is why I only made $56.00 I essentially added my own spins to this method and changed up the pitch. Now that I see the money in this I'm going to scale it up and milk it for everything it worth! My first $56 dollar day, f#$&ing awesome! Thanks a lot for this method dude.
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How many websites did you use?
and how many emails do you get from one post?
 
Hmmm only downside I see is the potential for the Feds to catch on to this and prosecute you for Fraud. I dont know how hard they crack down on this type of stuff (probably very little) but I dont think it would take a Genius to figure out its an affiliate scam and a subpoena can get them your info, which you give if you want to be paid. I would just add that to the method so no fellow Black hatters suddenly disappear from the boards just in case they get popped.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber
 
Kidmars19 said:
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So after a day of half-heartedly attempting this method I made $56.00 f****n dollars! While that's not much to some, for about an hours worth of work, that's amazing, especially considering I didn't even start responding to emails until the next day which is why I only made $56.00 I essentially added my own spins to this method and changed up the pitch. Now that I see the money in this I'm going to scale it up and milk it for everything it worth! My first $56 dollar day, f#$&ing awesome! Thanks a lot for this method dude.
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wow thats awesome! what network are you using?
 
bumbo90 said:
How many websites did you use?
and how many emails do you get from one post?
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I only used one VERY popular listing site. From one post I'd say I got roughly 16 emails out of a total of 80 for six post (all different items) in one city. Since posting my screencaps I've made another 28 dollars from the first set of post and have roughly 20 unanswered emails from my most recent set of post in another city done a couple hours ago. Haven't felt this optimistic about my finances in a VERY long time! ;)

thegameplayer said:
wow thats awesome! what network are you using?
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I'm personally using Get Offer Direct but, as the OP stated, this offer is available on multiple networks. If your already in one I'd say check with them to see if they have the offer, ppc, etc... before jumping ship.
 
Just saying you might find it more rewarding to apply your mind to a more ethical way of making money. This is likely taking money from some kid that may not have a whole lot of cash. I understand its blackhat but just think about it.
 
jntarnold said:
Just saying you might find it more rewarding to apply your mind to a more ethical way of making money. This is likely taking money from some kid that may not have a whole lot of cash. I understand its blackhat but just think about it.
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Avoiding a debate on ethics, I personally don't pretend to be a thief nor do I guarantee the person will acquire the merchandise. Also, as I list mainly higher-end electronics, the person responding typically has anywhere from $200 to $600 CASH on their person to purchase said item; doubt they'll miss the $20 dollars it cost to get a background check. Hell, if they try to close the tab at checkout they can get it for a buck! Doubt they'll miss the $20 or $1 spent. I do though dislike putting negative energy into this plane so I'll be sure to do something to balance out the karma.
 
Kidmars19 said:
I only used one VERY popular listing site. From one post I'd say I got roughly 16 emails out of a total of 80 for six post (all different items) in one city. Since posting my screencaps I've made another 28 dollars from the first set of post and have roughly 20 unanswered emails from my most recent set of post in another city done a couple hours ago. Haven't felt this optimistic about my finances in a VERY long time! ;)
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That tells me that I am probably doing something wrong, because I get about 3 emails from one post.
 
Kidmars19 said:
Avoiding a debate on ethics, I personally don't pretend to be a thief nor do I guarantee the person will acquire the merchandise. Also, as I list mainly higher-end electronics, the person responding typically has anywhere from $200 to $600 CASH on their person to purchase said item; doubt they'll miss the $20 dollars it cost to get a background check. Hell, if they try to close the tab at checkout they can get it for a buck! Doubt they'll miss the $20 or $1 spent. I do though dislike putting negative energy into this plane so I'll be sure to do something to balance out the karma.
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The issue isnt about ethics or Karma. Some of us gladly will build a review site and promote a product we do not own nor have even tried, some would argue that is unethical too. Others try to rank sites that really may not deserve ranking, fooling the public into thinking we have "authoritative" sites, some would argue that is unethical. This is Blackhat world, not white panty world.

The issue is this is probably flat out fraud, which is not just unethical, but illegal in most countries. Actively posing as a seller and having a potential customer pay for something in order to have access to something you dont own or intend to sell might get you fined and in extreme cases, thrown into jail.

If you are in a country that actually cares about this kind of thing, I would think twice about this method. All it takes is one pissed of person to report you because they are mad that they spent $20 for nothing you could find yourself in a load of trouble.

From what I am reading some people are making a few bucks here and there, this is not life altering money where you can do this for a month and quit and live for a year or reinvest in a legitimate business. I would not risk 5 years in jail or tens of thousands of dollars in fines for peanuts.

The ethical argument is moot, as I said many of us walk the line in some way or another but when it comes to downright illegal, you should take that extra second to think if a couple hundred (or even thousand) dollars are worth the risk.
 
Getwhatchuwant said:
The issue isnt about ethics or Karma. Some of us gladly will build a review site and promote a product we do not own nor have even tried, some would argue that is unethical too. Others try to rank sites that really may not deserve ranking, fooling the public into thinking we have "authoritative" sites, some would argue that is unethical. This is Blackhat world, not white panty world.

The issue is this is probably flat out fraud, which is not just unethical, but illegal in most countries. Actively posing as a seller and having a potential customer pay for something in order to have access to something you dont own or intend to sell might get you fined and in extreme cases, thrown into jail.

If you are in a country that actually cares about this kind of thing, I would think twice about this method. All it takes is one pissed of person to report you because they are mad that they spent $20 for nothing you could find yourself in a load of trouble.

From what I am reading some people are making a few bucks here and there, this is not life altering money where you can do this for a month and quit and live for a year or reinvest in a legitimate business. I would not risk 5 years in jail or tens of thousands of dollars in fines for peanuts.

The ethical argument is moot, as I said many of us walk the line in some way or another but when it comes to downright illegal, you should take that extra second to think if a couple hundred (or even thousand) dollars are worth the risk.
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Well I just don't know about this. I totally see what your point is, but I think it all comes down to your wording. If you literally promise someone you'll sell him a nonexistent item, then yes - this probably counts as fraud.
But if you choose your words right and at no point assure them that they'll definitely get access to whatever it is you're offering them, then the situation changed completely. Maybe add your own twist to the method and maybe even use a completely different angle + different CPA offer and you're pretty much safe IMO.
 
tixpf said:
Well I just don't know about this. I totally see what your point is, but I think it all comes down to your wording. If you literally promise someone you'll sell him a nonexistent item, then yes - this probably counts as fraud.
But if you choose your words right and at no point assure them that they'll definitely get access to whatever it is you're offering them, then the situation changed completely. Maybe add your own twist to the method and maybe even use a completely different angle + different CPA offer and you're pretty much safe IMO.
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That MIGHT work except that law enforcement just needs a suspicion to get a subpena to your affiliate company. Say they pull a sting on you and they have a clean background which then you say "oops sorry already sold". It would not be hard for them to go to the company that is paying you, pull your records to find out you had 50 such offers completed over the course of a week. Then it is clear that this was a game and now they have your personal information and they have proof that you were gaming the system.

Not just that but do these people actually send you their background checks? Now you have their personal information, not sure if there is yet another law against that but I would not doubt it.

Like I was saying, this is not life altering money. If you convert 50 at $20 that is just $1000. Even 500 is just $10,000. I would not risk a criminal record, fines and potential jail time for that kind of money.

Now if you are saying I can fly under the radar for a month and make $500,000? Now that is life changing money, I might consider the risk/reward in that case.
 
Well yes, but still you don't seem to be 100% sure either. And it's not just that easy for the law enforcement to pull records from anywhere they want. At least not where I'm from. And assuming you're not even located in the US that makes it even more unlikely to get into trouble.
And let's just assume they do pull the records and see you just had 50, 100 or even 200 of those offers completed. Who's to say that's illegal, as long as you've put your own twist to it? That's what I based my whole point on, remember? With the very method OP posted, yes that might get you into trouble, but let's assume you changed it up and pretended you're an agent who represents companies and you're in urgent need for 2-4 employees and if anyone is interested they have to complete a background check + provide a short application.
As long as you emphasize that there's no guarantee for them they'll get the job, I don't see how this would be illegal.

But still, I totally get your point and I agree with you and think I've said enough and I also think you see where I'm going with my posts.
 
I agree, promoting the item as stolen may not be the best idea while trying to building a sense of credibility. But I feel it accomplishes something else. A person that filled out a background check to be approved to purchase stolen goods is going to be HIGHLY unlikely to pursue legal action. How do you explain you got duped trying to buy stolen stuff?
 
Thank you for the method but juste one thing, I don't really understand what you meant by "ad website"/where I can post the offer. So if someone can pm me with some examples it'd be really nice :)
 
So how does this back out for the advertiser? I am curious since this seems like there'd be a lot of chargebacks similar to credit reports. You'd get paid maybe one or two months in a row and then the advertiser starts watching your traffic. Then you're hit up with a compliance check by the CPA company and they ask to talk about your traffic over the phone before they release the third month's earnings.
 
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