Forum Wiki Blog How does Google treat them differently ?

[ATuringtest]

I'm just curious how google treats Wiki's Blog's and forums differently.
Are wiki's more authoritative ?
And how does google treat forum posts for Keywords - duplicate content / quotes etc.
The reason I ask is I have noticed google indexes some of BHW's threads in 20 - 30 hours with say 1 keyword if its a hot topic . And of course some threads have 100's of posts.
Are forum threads powerful in serp's ?

And of course everyone know Wikipedia hits the top on a lot of search's.

 

[fielddigger]

I would REALLY like to gain some insight into this topic also.

EDIT:
Just realized this topic is from 2020, which I guess is fine, since this question is still relevant!

I am researching this topic and found the following threads about this so far, so for anyone finding this post, here you go.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/forum-vs-blog-which-rank-better.1472328/

 

[ATuringtest]

I would REALLY like to gain some insight into this topic also.

EDIT:
Just realized this topic is from 2020, which I guess is fine, since this question is still relevant!

I am researching this topic and found the following threads about this so far, so for anyone finding this post, here you go.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/forum-vs-blog-which-rank-better.1472328/

When nobody answers you know your on to a winner

 

[fielddigger]

When nobody answers you know your on to a winner

Yo thats some gangsta level insight you just shared with me LMFAO LOVE YOU

I had to read it a few times to make sense of it

 

[netizenwizard]

• Google treats wikis, blogs, and forums differently based on authority, relevance, and freshness.
• Yes, Wikis are generally considered to be more authoritative than blogs and forums.
• Google treats forum posts for keywords in the same way it treats other types of content.
• Forum threads can be powerful in SERPs if they are relevant to the search query and if they provide high-quality information.

 

[ATuringtest]

• Google treats wikis, blogs, and forums differently based on authority, relevance, and freshness.
• Yes, Wikis are generally considered to be more authoritative than blogs and forums.
• Google treats forum posts for keywords in the same way it treats other types of content.
• Forum threads can be powerful in SERPs if they are relevant to the search query and if they provide high-quality information.

I fucking knew it !!
Time to make a script me thinks ??? lol

 

[Ashk881]

I would REALLY like to gain some insight into this topic also.

EDIT:
Just realized this topic is from 2020, which I guess is fine, since this question is still relevant!

I am researching this topic and found the following threads about this so far, so for anyone finding this post, here you go.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/forum-vs-blog-which-rank-better.1472328/

If you are still looking, here's some facts.

- Forums and User Generated content sites (twitter, reddit, social media etc) are indexed very aggressively because of how broad internet scale crawlers work. (It's because of an algo called the SALSA algorithm, look it up).

- However, they only rank when authority scores of other sites for the query keywords are low. That means, if your site has mostly user-generated content, you will rank for a lot of longtail keywords, but won't rank for high volume competitive keywords for which there are a good dozen sites already. This is why you see quora,reddit and other forums for low competition keywords.

- wikis themselves are not more authoritative on their own. That is to say, if you have a blog and wiki with the same amount and quality of content, a wiki won't necessarily rank better.

- however if you have (or can show) several "contributors" to your wiki as authors, google seems to rank it higher than if say, a blog with multiple authors. This is probably because Google has an algorithm similar to ExpertRank where large keyword clusters spread across multiple authors seems to give a site more authority.

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And of course everyone know Wikipedia hits the top on a lot of search's.

Thats because Wikipedia is referenced by literally everyone on the internet. If it was pornhub instead, it would rank no1 in most serps too.

Are forum threads powerful in serp's ?

depends how you define powerful. They are definitely not powrful from a keyword difficulty perspective. That is, if you are seeing forum serps, your query keywords dont have a ton of competition.

 

[ATuringtest]

If you are still looking, here's some facts.

- Forums and User Generated content sites (twitter, reddit, social media etc) are indexed very aggressively because of how broad internet scale crawlers work. (It's because of an algo called the SALSA algorithm, look it up).

- However, they only rank when authority scores of other sites for the query keywords are low. That means, if your site has mostly user-generated content, you will rank for a lot of longtail keywords, but won't rank for high volume competitive keywords for which there are a good dozen sites already. This is why you see quora,reddit and other forums for low competition keywords.

- wikis themselves are not more authoritative on their own. That is to say, if you have a blog and wiki with the same amount and quality of content, a wiki won't necessarily rank better.

- however if you have (or can show) several "contributors" to your wiki as authors, google seems to rank it higher than if say, a blog with multiple authors. This is probably because Google has an algorithm similar to ExpertRank where large keyword clusters spread across multiple authors seems to give a site more authority.

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Thats because Wikipedia is referenced by literally everyone on the internet. If it was pornhub instead, it would rank no1 in most serps too.

depends how you define powerful. They are definitely not powrful from a keyword difficulty perspective. That is, if you are seeing forum serps, your query keywords dont have a ton of competition.

Thank you for that very insightful answer @Ashk881

 

[PHPInjected]

• Google treats wikis, blogs, and forums differently based on authority, relevance, and freshness.
• Yes, Wikis are generally considered to be more authoritative than blogs and forums.
• Google treats forum posts for keywords in the same way it treats other types of content.
• Forum threads can be powerful in SERPs if they are relevant to the search query and if they provide high-quality information.

Adding on to this, it treats forums/wiki exactly the same as other types of content.

Now, if you break that down: what are the site metrics of say a forum like BHW for instance.

On the same point, what are the site metrics of Wikipedia? You might not have a high page authority right away, but the domain authority will be right where you think it’d be.

Hence why at one point, places like Wikipedia, HuffPost, etc we’re very expensive to get links on.

 

[ATuringtest]

@PHPInjected the thing is, I noticed a couple of years ago. That (depending of course on the subject) Q&A's at the top of Googles search results often came from Niche type forums/wiki's, which made me think.. as you would

 

[fielddigger]

If you are still looking, here's some facts.

- Forums and User Generated content sites (twitter, reddit, social media etc) are indexed very aggressively because of how broad internet scale crawlers work. (It's because of an algo called the SALSA algorithm, look it up).

- However, they only rank when authority scores of other sites for the query keywords are low. That means, if your site has mostly user-generated content, you will rank for a lot of longtail keywords, but won't rank for high volume competitive keywords for which there are a good dozen sites already. This is why you see quora,reddit and other forums for low competition keywords.

- wikis themselves are not more authoritative on their own. That is to say, if you have a blog and wiki with the same amount and quality of content, a wiki won't necessarily rank better.

- however if you have (or can show) several "contributors" to your wiki as authors, google seems to rank it higher than if say, a blog with multiple authors. This is probably because Google has an algorithm similar to ExpertRank where large keyword clusters spread across multiple authors seems to give a site more authority.

-

Thats because Wikipedia is referenced by literally everyone on the internet. If it was pornhub instead, it would rank no1 in most serps too.

depends how you define powerful. They are definitely not powrful from a keyword difficulty perspective. That is, if you are seeing forum serps, your query keywords dont have a ton of competition.

thank you!!, i dont understand 90% of what you said, but you have given me tons of things to research and shown me many gaps in my knowledge, my journey is going to be long, thankfully this is something I have interest in, cause this be like rocketscience to me right now.

 

[PHPInjected]

@PHPInjected the thing is, I noticed a couple of years ago. That (depending of course on the subject) Q&A's at the top of Googles search results often came from Niche type forums/wiki's, which made me think.. as you would

Shhhhh. If you tell them, then they’ll know! If you can connect the dots, good link sources as well.