For every million COVID cases

so if it's only 100 deaths for each 1kk case I think kinda more people die from car accidents and even from regular human stupidity

Yes, correct. And not getting vaccinated is regular human stupidity.

Actually much of the damage that is being done at present is not caused by corona in itself but the fact it’s paving way for a host of pathogenic illness, namely deadly bacterial and fungal infections in people with certain predispositions.
The rates of people being fatally or critically ill at this point might be relatively low, serious illness, fairly low but from my dabbling in medical journals and intranet bulletins, I have gathered that many among the medical community, i’m talking the likes of virology and biomedical researchers, not physicians, are shit scared of the possibility of deadlier mutations occuring that won’t be as forgiving to the masses and not the coronavirus in itself. And higher rates of transmission means higher viral loads which means greater probability of such mutations. They are doing what they can to try to die it down and lower these probabilities.

If we let this virus continue to rage freely as some want, it's going to be Don't Look Up scenario.

Look what The Sciencesays about PCR tests :)

Basically a positive test only means : You may have had covid at some point in the last 12 weeks .

It's laughable .

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Do you have a better solution? I assume you've developed something better than PCR testing?
 
If we let this virus continue to rage freely as some want, it's going to be Don't Look Up scenario.
Switch "comet" with "vaccine" and "Dash" with "Pfizer"

Like the movie "Don't Look Up," pharmaceutical companies see the vaccine as a way to make billions of dollars, the same way the technology company Dash saw the comet as a way to make $100 trillion from mining. Peter Isherwell, Dash's CEO, didn't care about possible extinction at the thought of making trillions of dollars.

Your movie interpretation is skewed so you may as well stop talking about vaccines and covid altogether as you don't understand either and make false logical conclusions.
 
You basically ignore every valid point that is made in replies to you Bart and stick your own self righteous spin on what you choose to reply to. There is something seriously wrong with you.. seek mental help would be my advice, a stroke or paranoid episode is likely to take you long before covid ever does the way you’re carrying on lately.

Done debating/arguing with you as your replies are always the same bullshit hyperbole nonsense.

Everyone else, we are not going to all die and this is not a mutant virus. Endless vaccines are also not the answer to this.. think of your natural immune systems and please research the adverse effects these jabs are having worldwide.

Do not succumb to fear and coercion.. something is badly wrong here and it isn’t covid any longer.

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Now gimme those stats per age category.

It's really odd how people still consider everyone, who opposes the vaccine to be used on every living human being, an antivaxxer.

But i grow tired of these discussions. Just take the vaccine if you want. Just don't be a moron that wants to force it on everyone, regardless of their age and actual risk.

is it so hard to have a middle ground?
 
Viruses mutate in order to spread, when they do so (we’ve seen this each time with covid) they get weaker just like the Spanish flu you mentioned did, not stronger. Getting stronger would mean the virus dies sooner.. a virus doesn’t want to die it wants to infect as many hosts as possible, mutating to do so makes it weaker - hello Omicron!

Please stop the fear mongering “mass extinction” chat.. give me strength.. we have Bart for that madness, we don’t need another lunatic spouting doomsday nonsense.

You keep banging on about these experts, yet ignore the experts that are crying out that this is sheer lunacy. You are only open to experts that agree with jabs, because you’ve been told to, simple as that.
 
So everyone who died from this in every hospital is just an actor? Have you ever asked a doctor about your takes? Talk to a nurse in intensive care or something, ask them if you're right.

You know Doctors and Nurses aren't at home researching Covid right? They just get passed down the guidelines, which ultimately come from a government body.

Also corona viruses aren't new, there's been medical journals attributing common colds to corona viruses for decades, here's one from 25 years ago. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK7782/.

Who knows, it's unlikely, but maybe the past 3 strands of corona have been more deadly then any of the others for decades. But if that was true why would statistics need to fabricated and exaggerated.

At the start of lockdown the UK was classing anybody who died who had been suspected of having covid, as dying from covid even if they died from any other cause, disease, car crashes, etc. More recently they extended this to 30 days, so all the people who are dying from covid, are probably dying from other causes, but because they tested positive for covid in the last 30 days they were being classed as dying from covid.

Also, your original post doesn't really mean anything. Given that those who are on life support or those who are receiving end of life care, for example those with terminal cancer who have been given a very short time left to live aren't really getting vaccinated. Then there will be more people who die who haven't been vaccinated.
 
Now whose to say some dire new variant emerging won’t make this such an normal, scenario that it’s no longer even newsworthy at all. Or are their any experts on positive-sense, single-stranded rna viruses that can tell me what i’m reading about mutations concerns on bulletins are completely unfounded and doesn’t amount to everything about SAR-Cov-2 essentially becoming a game of pathogenic russian roulette at this point.

So how will we stop variants ? With these vaccines ? lol

The vaccines are creating the variants .

Read this :

healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715

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And do some research on Marek's disease , a case where the vaccine made the disease a lot worse .

From Wikipedia :

"The first Marek's disease vaccine was introduced in 1970. The disease would cause mild paralysis, with the only identifiable lesions being in neural tissue. Mortality of chickens infected with Marek's disease was quite low. Current strains of Marek virus, decades after the first vaccine was introduced, cause lymphoma formation throughout the chicken's body and mortality rates have reached 100% in unvaccinated chickens. The Marek's disease vaccine is a "leaky vaccine", which means that only the symptoms of the disease are prevented. Infection of the host and the transmission of the virus are not inhibited by the vaccine. This contrasts with most other vaccines, where infection of the host is prevented. Under normal conditions, highly virulent strains of the virus are not selected. A highly virulent strain would kill the host before the virus would have an opportunity to transmit to other potential hosts and replicate. Thus, less virulent strains are selected. These strains are virulent enough to induce symptoms but not enough to kill the host, allowing further transmission. However, the leaky vaccine changes this evolutionary pressure and permits the evolution of highly virulent strains. The vaccine's inability to prevent infection and transmission allows the spread of highly virulent strains among vaccinated chickens. The fitness of the more virulent strains is increased by the vaccine."

If you're worried about future dangerous variants you have two options :

1) Do nothing . Like @t0mmy said , the virus will get weaker in time , not stronger .
2) Make a real vaccine . A vaccine that gives full immunity from the virus .
 
So how will we stop variants ? With these vaccines ? lol

The vaccines are creating the variants .

Read this :

healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715

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And do some research on Marek's disease , a case where the vaccine made the disease a lot worse .

From Wikipedia :

"The first Marek's disease vaccine was introduced in 1970. The disease would cause mild paralysis, with the only identifiable lesions being in neural tissue. Mortality of chickens infected with Marek's disease was quite low. Current strains of Marek virus, decades after the first vaccine was introduced, cause lymphoma formation throughout the chicken's body and mortality rates have reached 100% in unvaccinated chickens. The Marek's disease vaccine is a "leaky vaccine", which means that only the symptoms of the disease are prevented. Infection of the host and the transmission of the virus are not inhibited by the vaccine. This contrasts with most other vaccines, where infection of the host is prevented. Under normal conditions, highly virulent strains of the virus are not selected. A highly virulent strain would kill the host before the virus would have an opportunity to transmit to other potential hosts and replicate. Thus, less virulent strains are selected. These strains are virulent enough to induce symptoms but not enough to kill the host, allowing further transmission. However, the leaky vaccine changes this evolutionary pressure and permits the evolution of highly virulent strains. The vaccine's inability to prevent infection and transmission allows the spread of highly virulent strains among vaccinated chickens. The fitness of the more virulent strains is increased by the vaccine."

If you're worried about future dangerous variants you have two options :

1) Do nothing . Like @t0mmy said , the virus will get weaker in time , not stronger .
2) Make a real vaccine . A vaccine that gives full immunity from the virus .

Just for the record, I deleted two pretty long-wonded replies to elaborate certain points, simply because I just honestly can’t be arsed with it now i’ve got nothing to gain or lose bickering about this any further. So please keep out of it. Much obliged. *Unwatched*
 
What I find interesting and I’ve begun to notice it more and more. These threads have more people in them now that are against the vaccines and coercion than are for and then lots of others that are waking up to this nonsense. I’ve seen a senior member state he has had more than 2 jabs but refuses to take anymore. I’m hearing this line daily in real life from people that regret ever taking their first.

That gives me hope. People are beginning to realise something doesn’t add up. Civil unrest is growing (you’ll not see it on the msm, look for local sources) around Europe right now. People have had enough and it’s starting to really show. There’s only so far you can push people.
 
You know Doctors and Nurses aren't at home researching Covid right? They just get passed down the guidelines, which ultimately come from a government body.

The guidelines are passed down based on science. What works, works. What doesn't, doesn't. Not rocket science.

Also corona viruses aren't new, there's been medical journals attributing common colds to corona viruses for decades, here's one from 25 years ago. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK7782/.
I think you're a big confused there. Coronavirus are common. COVID-19 is what we're talking about. It's a specific kind of corona virus.

Who knows, it's unlikely, but maybe the past 3 strands of corona have been more deadly then any of the others for decades. But if that was true why would statistics need to fabricated and exaggerated.

Labs hold research coronavirus that are 100x worse than covid-19. Think about that for a moment.

Not disagreeing with you here, just mentioning.

At the start of lockdown the UK was classing anybody who died who had been suspected of having covid, as dying from covid even if they died from any other cause, disease, car crashes, etc. More recently they extended this to 30 days, so all the people who are dying from covid, are probably dying from other causes, but because they tested positive for covid in the last 30 days they were being classed as dying from covid.

That's a factoid that keeps getting repeated to exhaustion by antivaxxers. That's simply not accurate. Cause of death is scientific. A gunshot wound causes bleeding, but you don't say someone died of bleeding, you say they died of gunshot wound. Same with covid.

Of course during the hectic days where hospitals collapsed, there were mistakes. These were a minority of cases. The 5.4 million worldwide deaths from covid weren't fraud, they were real.


Also, your original post doesn't really mean anything. Given that those who are on life support or those who are receiving end of life care, for example those with terminal cancer who have been given a very short time left to live aren't really getting vaccinated. Then there will be more people who die who haven't been vaccinated.

My original post is from the CDC. USA's most specialized agency on virus....



What I find interesting and I’ve begun to notice it more and more. These threads have more people in them now that are against the vaccines and coercion than are for and then lots of others that are waking up to this nonsense. I’ve seen a senior member state he has had more than 2 jabs but refuses to take anymore. I’m hearing this line daily in real life from people that regret ever taking their first.

That gives me hope. People are beginning to realise something doesn’t add up. Civil unrest is growing (you’ll not see it on the msm, look for local sources) around Europe right now. People have had enough and it’s starting to really show. There’s only so far you can push people.

What's your sample size? 10 or 100 observations? World population is 8 billion, billions of vaccines have been delivered. Your sample size is irrelevant for any serious conclusions.

Funny how vaccine stats by scientists are in the tens of thousands of samples, yet antivaxxers always reply with these factoids "my uncle's 3rd wife ate ice cream and got cured from covid", then proceed to generalize this to everyone like "ice cream cures covid". It's that silly.
 
What's your sample size? 10 or 100 observations? World population is 8 billion, billions of vaccines have been delivered. Your sample size is irrelevant for any serious conclusions.

Funny how vaccine stats by scientists are in the tens of thousands of samples, yet antivaxxers always reply with these factoids "my uncle's 3rd wife ate ice cream and got cured from covid", then proceed to generalize this to everyone like "ice cream cures covid". It's that silly.

I called it as I’ve seen it lately in these threads of yours as stated in my “observation”..

Yes it’s almost as funny as when they told you two jabs and you’d be fine. We all know how that’s gone down.. but yes it’s all the “anti vaxxers” faults.
 
I’m not for or against vaccines or people getting or not
Getting it. Just find it funny how people will risk fucking some random person and risking hiv or full blown aids. Smoke or do some illegal random street drug. But worry about vaccines. Like I said not for or against just funny how people think.
 
I called it as I’ve seen it lately in these threads of yours as stated in my “observation”..

Yes it’s almost as funny as when they told you two jabs and you’d be fine. We all know how that’s gone down.. but yes it’s all the “anti vaxxers” faults.
I got 2 shots not doing anymore. I’m 100% sure I got a terrible side effect from it even my dr was like it’s prob from the vaccine. I have pins and needle feeling in my hands and feet now. I got an mri. Xrays. Blood work and tons of testing and they can’t figure it out. The only thing that changed was the vaccine. So I’m cool waiting on getting another shot. I hear Canada is working on a plant base vaccine so maybe I’ll go the natural path next. But at this point I’m not getting anymore shots. Prob already had Covid or just got it last week the omni one because I had all the symptoms of Covid but didn’t get tested as I was home for 2 weeks anyway so basically self isolated lol
 
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