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It still doesn't change that people shouldn't be forced to get the vaccine. They are risking their own health, no one else. You know, there are also people who smoke 20 cigarettes per day or drink 5 bottles of beer every day or there are also guys who watch TV 10 hours per day. Are we forcing them too? No mate, everyone has a right to fuck up their own life. Their health, their decisions, their life.

Btw. I am vaccinated (2x Pfizer, 2x Sinopharm..the chinese one) and I won't take a third one. What for? Obviously, it is not about health. If this would be about health, then why would they lock up people who are vaccinated and therefore protected? Now they say: Get a third jab. Ok, and then? After a weeks/months they force us to take a 4th...and then a 5th, etc. Nope, I won't do it anymore.
 
You are citing CDC, not "ufo fake news *chan" yet you obviously interpret the statistics in your favor. If we ignore the obvious that CDC counts deaths with covid as deaths from covid, there are still plenty of issues.

1) You can't count together all age groups and claim that everyone should get a vaccine. Older people have higher chances of dying from covid.
2) You can't count healthy and unhealthy people together, unhealthy people and people with underlying conditions have higher chance of dying from covid.
3) What are the statistics for healthy young people who aren't vaccinated and had gone through covid and have natural immunity?

Thought this was obvious, but probably not.
Also what is the point of spamming internet marketing forums with covid news? If you think your posts will convice someone to get vaccinated, it's gonna have the opposite effect and it will divide the pro vaxx / anti vaxx even more.
 
@bartosimpsonio you're missing the bigger picture here .

With your numbers the death rate is less than 1 in 10,000 ( 0.01% ) for everyone , regardless of vax status .

This is what you call a deathly pandemic ? It's even less deathly than the flu ...


Even if everyone in the world was infected that would still be less than 8 billion * 1/10,000 = 800,000 deaths .

And they say there are over 5 million covid deaths ...

Even if we assume that everyone in the world was infected 2 times there would still be less than 1.6 million deaths .

Something is fishy here ...


The CDC is basically admitting that the number of "covid deaths" is inflated and most "covid deaths" are not real covid deaths.

Most of those deaths are old , sick people that died of other causes but were still counted as a "covid death" because they tested positive .

It's ridiculous ...

Remember that over 95% of "covid deaths" had one or multiple comorbidities ?
Remember that the median age of a "covid death" is over 80 years old ?

This is why !
 
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One of my favourite journalist in the new york times of all time just died at the age of 49 after taking the vaccine.

He was a husband and had 2 children.

He trusted the medical field and accepted to take the experimental vaccine and booster.

Unfortunately, as these vaccines are provoking heart attacks, he died and leave behind his family.

https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=21/52/z1q4.png

RIP Carlos, I wanted to take the vaccine but I will not finally, my family will miss me too much if I die from this experimental vaccine.

Be careful guys, if you have some heart or lung problem, just stay away from this vaccine or you will leave this earth sooner than you should.

RIP to all the people who leave a family behind them because they trusted "science" and died in the process.
 
Moral of the story?

Don't worry about it, and live your life. You would have to be very unlucky to die from covid (61 in 1000000 chance worst case) :D

Oh btw.. I am vaccinated.
 
Here's a very simple thing we should mention here. I believe here we have a lot of online marketers and you probably already know how things work.

In the US it's very popular to run medical ads on TV. Let's say we have a report on CNN that is sponsored by Pfizer, or maybe they run ads promoting their products. Pfizer spends a lot of money on that network. Do you think CNN will talk bad about Pfizer?

Or let's say you pay money on a regular basis for freelancers to promote your brand. Do you think this freelancer will get paid for the future promotions if he starts talking bad about the brand?

And I think we should make our own choices without being forced to do something. If we pass this line, where is this going to end?
 
What OP forgot to mention is this data he's talking about, under 20 of those deaths applies to people between 50 - 64.
The rest were over 65 lmao
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The reason i donot take vaccine...


1st. i live in remote village , in a separate room.. hardly interacting with family members.

2nd. i have seen 2-3 person dying after taking vaccine within 48hr ( Note: they are my relatives so donot acuuse me that its just rumour.)

3rd. i am in my 20s so i have good enough immunity

4th. so i would not take something which was just created within 6-9month and noone knows its side effects in long term

5th. even if you take vaccine still u will get the virus

so i will not just get vaccinated just because others are taking when i know my chances of getting covid is very low and there is risk in taking vaccine...

although i have informed all my family members to take vaccine and they all are fully vaccinated as well :D
 
gvidass said:
Here's a very simple thing we should mention here. I believe here we have a lot of online marketers and you probably already know how things work.

In the US it's very popular to run medical ads on TV. Let's say we have a report on CNN that is sponsored by Pfizer, or maybe they run ads promoting their products. Pfizer spends a lot of money on that network. Do you think CNN will talk bad about Pfizer?

Or let's say you pay money on a regular basis for freelancers to promote your brand. Do you think this freelancer will get paid for the future promotions if he starts talking bad about the brand?

And I think we should make our own choices without being forced to do something. If we pass this line, where is this going to end?
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Pfizer will cut their funding even sue them for doing so.
 
R4v3nbl4ck said:
They always say these deaths are not related to the vaccine. In my town a guy got the vaccine, developed a fever the next day, fell unconscious and died.
All media channels said he died because he had other health conditions. His wife said it's not true, he was healthy and had no conditions at all.

The same happened with a young girl in my country. She got the vaccine, went to sleep, and never woke up. She wasn't even 18.
Newspapers claimed she died because of a genetic disease, but her parents said it's not true, she had no diseases.

A woman I know asked her doctor if she really had to take the vaccine, because she had lots of allergies and she was worried about side effects.
The doctor said: "Yes, you need to take it, if you are worried go get it in the hospital, so that if something happens you are already there.".
So, she went to the hospital, got the shot, and 5 minutes later she had a reaction so strong she had to stay in ICU for 2 weeks.
One of her side effect was a massive skin burn all over the body. The ICU doctors said it was not related to the vaccine, but "probably some type of skin cancer".
Yes, a cancer developed in 5 mintues. These guys should be fired. At least she didn't die.
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In my town a guy got covid without the taking the vaccine, developed a fever the next day, fell unconscious and died.
All anti vaxxers said he died because he had other health conditions. His wife said it's not true, he was healthy and had no conditions at all.

The same happened with a young girl in my country. She got covid, went to sleep, and never woke up. She wasn't even 18.
Youtubers who are against vaccines claimed she died because of a genetic disease, but her parents said it's not true, she had no diseases.

A woman I know asked her doctor if she really had to take the vaccine, because she was young and healthy and she was not worried about side effects of covid.
The doctor said: "no, you don’t need to take it, if you are worried after contracting covid, go to the hospital, so that if something happens you are going to be treated".
So, she caught covid and went to the hospital, got treatments, and she spent the next 2 weeks in ICU.
One of her side effect was blood cloth in both her legs, pneumonia and myocarditis. The anti vaxxers said it was not related to covid, but "probably some type of cancer".
Yes, a cancer developed in 2 weeks. These guys should be fired. At least she didn't die.

- See how easy it is to spill bullshit and make up stories as we go.
 
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Ozzyzig said:
So for those that aren't vaccinated, the %chance of dying of covid per 1 million is 0.0061%.
In Scotland, where I live, there are approximately 5million people. Let's just assume that all 5 million people have had C19. In which case, my chance of dying from it is 0.0305%

Am I going to take my chances on an mRNA vaccine which has increasingly worrying reports into the cardiovascular events that it is causing? Not a chance in hell, as a scientist, it just doesn't sit right with me. Let's not forget though that Pfizer has purchased Arena, who produce drugs for a wide variety of complications. This includes, but not limited to, impairments of the cardiovascular system.
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Yet it is 6x more likely for young and healthy people to occur after getting covid than through the vaccine.

As a scientist yourself (as you stated) you should know better.

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...fter-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/amp/
 
dabax said:
Lol no thank you. But by all means you continue to inject away.
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Anyone who's ever been to a college party has taken more experimental drugs in one night than a double/triple/etc dose vaccine

We've been through too much, no way a couple pins is gonna stop us now :D
 
macdonjo3 said:
Anyone who's ever been to a college party has taken more experimental drugs in one night than a double/triple/etc dose vaccine

We've been through too much, no way a couple pins is gonna stop us now :D
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WOOOOW I never did that.

I was bullied in school because I was very fat and had almost no friends until 18 years old.

I guess we don't have the same teenage memories :(
 
LuckyCharm007 said:
- See how easy it is to spill bullshit and make up stories as we go.
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I did not make up any of that. Everything I said is true. I have no reason to lie. If you don't believe me, I don't care.
BTW I know it's normal that some people are allergic to vaccines or have side effects, just like any other drug.
Even if you take an aspirin, you may be allergic and die. It's due to happen in 1 out of thousands or millions of people.
The problem is doctors and medias saying it wasn't the vaccine. They will never said "yeah, it was our fault, sorry".
 
R4v3nbl4ck said:
I did not make up any of that. Everything I said is true. I have no reason to lie. If you don't believe me, I don't care.
BTW I know it's normal that some people are allergic to vaccines or have side effects, just like any other drug.
Even if you take an aspirin, you may be allergic and die. It's due to happen in 1 out of thousands or millions of people.
The problem is doctors and medias saying it wasn't the vaccine. They will never said "yeah, it was our fault, sorry".
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Neither do I. It’s all true.
 
only 100 deaths for each 1kk cases?
 
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