For All You Smokers...

Aluminium said:

People smoke in social settings, the nicotine gets into their system consistently and they begin to look for the headrush more and more.

Eventually, you don't feel anything at all while smoking. You're just going through the motions.

I'm actually trying to quit right now - I never enjoyed smoking cigarettes by themselves, but I mix tobacco with my weed all of the time.

I essentially get my nicotine through that, but trying to break the habit ASAP! I DON'T WANT HEART DISEASE!

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I smoked too. Everybody always talks about the risk of lung cancer etc. but for some reason I was always more worried about heart disease, which is also the reason why I quit.

You guys sound crazy. So just because sigs wont kill you right away you say fuck it?????

It might sound all fine and dandy now but when your actually on your death bed and you realize "damn, I could have lived another 10-20 years if I didn't smoke" you will regret it.

You only live once (as far as we can currently tell) and you need to be grateful for every day on this earth. If you just think about the odds of this planet being here + the odds of life being developed you will see life different. Shit even the odds of you being born are 1 in 150-300 million (depending on how much sperm your dad had).

Rant over.

asap1 said:

You guys sound crazy. So just because sigs wont kill you right away you say fuck it?????

It might sound all fine and dandy now but when your actually on your death bed and you realize "damn, I could have lived another 10-20 years if I didn't smoke" you will regret it.

You only live once (as far as we can currently tell) and you need to be grateful for every day on this earth. If you just think about the odds of this planet being here + the odds of life being developed you will see life different. Shit even the odds of you being born are 1 in 150-300 million (depending on how much sperm your dad had).

Rant over.

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I don't care I'm still gonna smoke til I die. Why does everybody want to live to 100 years old? At that age I'll be wearing a diaper incase I accidently shit on myself, my penis will be useless, it will be a mission just to be able to get out the bed or walk. I'll lose all my teeth and will be forced to eat apple sauce every day. If i have sex i might die of a heart attack. I won't be able to do shit other then watch non stop reruns of Matlock on tv.....If you want to live to be 100 years old by all means go for it. Its your loss.

NGALO1983 said:

I don't care I'm still gonna smoke til I die. Why does everybody want to live to 100 years old? At that age I'll be wearing a diaper incase I accidently shit on myself, my penis will be useless, it will be a mission just to be able to get out the bed or walk. I'll lose all my teeth and will be forced to eat apple sauceevery day. I won't be able to do shit other then watch Matlock.....If you want to live to be 100 years old by all means go for it. Its your loss.

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Your post reminded me of one of Maddox's old e-mails.

http://maddox.xmission.com/hatemail.cgi
What makes you think that animals suffer in slaughter houses anyway? I think it would rule to be raised for slaughter. Get all the free steroids you want, free meals and plenty of good company--hell, you have it made. Then when you're at the prime of your life, you get your head generously chopped off so you don't have to live through the suffering of old age. Not only that, but you can die with the satisfaction of knowing that somebody is going to enjoy eating a burger made out of you. What's more humane? Being slaughtered for meat or having to spend 8 hours a day, 40 hours per week in a cubicle for the rest of your life with assholes who listen to shitty music without headphones, then retiring and withering away with old age and cancer as your obnoxious kids grow up and treat you like shit? Slaughter please.

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wowhaxor said:

I still smoke 2 packs a day of camel straights (no filter) and I love them. The funny thing, every time I get arrested I get cleaned up but its always the first thing I get when I get out. In fact I just did 60 days this spring and still got right back to chain smoking. I'm a smart guy.

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"Cleaned up" from smoking or something worse? I don't like to probe into peoples business but I'm a long term recovering opiate addict. Former chemist and drug manufacturer. I know some decent ways to break bad habits.

With smoking, I smoked a pack a day for like 10 years. One thing I know about Camels and Marlboro's it's not necessarily the nicotine that's so addictive as it is the >>>additives.

I can prove this too. Go chew on nicotine gum or suck on lozenges for 6 months. Then try stopping. It's a cakewalk (in context to real drugs). So nicotine in it's isolated form ... I don't care what neuroscientists say, it's not very addictive. If nicotine is as addictive as so many experts claim... why don't we see droves of people hooked on nicotine gum and lozenges ?

What I did that helped (a lot) was switch from major brand cigarettes like Marlboro Menthol (& occassionally Camel Menthol) to a non-additive brand.

I made a long post about this a while ago. But I experimented with a bunch of non additive brands till I found one that tasted like my normal Marlboro's. Which was American Spirit Menthol. Then I smoked like this:

18 Marlboro Menthol / 2 American Spirit (week 1)
16 Marlboro Menthol / 4 American Spirit (week 2)
14 Marlboro Menthol / 6 American Spirit (week 3)

etc etc. Something weird happened when I got to an even 50/50 split. Which I stayed at for a couple months. I UNINTENTIONALLY stopped smoking so much. That compulsory drive to pick up a cigarette one after another slowly started disappearing. Almost like I was "forgetting" to smoke. I also experienced withdrawals. Although my nicotine intake hadn't technically dropped.

I kept this going & 1 day realized, "I don't like the way Marlboro's taste". So I dropped them completely. My theory why, (like I already said) it's not nicotine but all this shit causing addiction:

• Acetanisole
• Acetic Acid
• Acetoin
• Acetophenone
• 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
• 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
• 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
• Acetylpyrazine
• 2-Acetylpyridine
• 3-Acetylpyridine
• 2-Acetylthiazole
• Aconitic Acid
• dl-Alanine
• Alfalfa Extract
• Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
• Allyl Hexanoate
• Allyl Ionone
• Almond Bitter Oil
• Ambergris Tincture
• Ammonia
• Ammonium Bicarbonate
• Ammonium Hydroxide
• Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
• Ammonium Sulfide
• Amyl Alcohol
• Amyl Butyrate
• Amyl Formate
• Amyl Octanoate
• alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
• Amyris Oil
• trans-Anethole
• Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
• Anise
• Anise Star, Extract and Oils
• Anisyl Acetate
• Anisyl Alcohol
• Anisyl Formate
• Anisyl Phenylacetate
• Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
• Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
• 1-Arginine
• Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
• Ascorbic Acid
• 1-Asparagine Monohydrate
• 1-Aspartic Acid
• Balsam Peru and Oil
• Basil Oil
• Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
• Beeswax White
• Beet Juice Concentrate
• Benzaldehyde
• Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
• Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
• Benzoin Resin
• Benzophenone
• Benzyl Alcohol
• Benzyl Benzoate
• Benzyl Butyrate
• Benzyl Cinnamate
• Benzyl Propionate
• Benzyl Salicylate
• Bergamot Oil
• Bisabolene
• Black Currant Buds Absolute
• Borneol
• Bornyl Acetate
• Buchu Leaf Oil
• 1,3-Butanediol
• 2,3-Butanedione
• 1-Butanol
• 2-Butanone
• 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
• Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
• Butyl Acetate
• Butyl Butyrate
• Butyl Butyryl Lactate
• Butyl Isovalerate
• Butyl Phenylacetate
• Butyl Undecylenate
• 3-Butylidenephthalide
• Butyric Acid]
• Cadinene
• Caffeine
• Calcium Carbonate
• Camphene
• Cananga Oil
• Capsicum Oleoresin
• Caramel Color
• Caraway Oil
• Carbon Dioxide
• Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
• Carob Bean and Extract
• beta-Carotene
• Carrot Oil
• Carvacrol
• 4-Carvomenthenol
• 1-Carvone
• beta-Caryophyllene
• beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
• Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
• Cassia Bark Oil
• Cassie Absolute and Oil
• Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
• Cedar Leaf Oil
• Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
• Cedrol
• Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
• Cellulose Fiber
• Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
• Chicory Extract
• Chocolate
• Cinnamaldehyde
• Cinnamic Acid
• Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
• Cinnamyl Acetate
• Cinnamyl Alcohol
• Cinnamyl Cinnamate
• Cinnamyl Isovalerate
• Cinnamyl Propionate
• Citral
• Citric Acid
• Citronella Oil
• dl-Citronellol
• Citronellyl Butyrate
• itronellyl Isobutyrate
• Civet Absolute
• Clary Oil
• Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
• Cocoa
• Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
• Coconut Oil
• Coffee
• Cognac White and Green Oil
• Copaiba Oil
• Coriander Extract and Oil
• Corn Oil
• Corn Silk
• Costus Root Oil
• Cubeb Oil
• Cuminaldehyde
• para-Cymene
• 1-Cysteine Dandelion Root Solid Extract
• Davana Oil
• 2-trans, 4-trans-Decadienal
• delta-Decalactone
• gamma-Decalactone
• Decanal
• Decanoic Acid
• 1-Decanol
• 2-Decenal
• Dehydromenthofurolactone
• Diethyl Malonate
• Diethyl Sebacate
• 2,3-Diethylpyrazine
• Dihydro Anethole
• 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
• Dill Seed Oil and Extract
• meta-Dimethoxybenzene
• para-Dimethoxybenzene
• 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
• Dimethyl Succinate
• 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione
• 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
• 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
• 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-
Dihydrofuran-2-One
• 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-
2-One
• 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
• 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
• alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
• alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
• alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
• 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
• 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
• 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
• Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
• delta-Dodecalactone
• gamma-Dodecalactone
• para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
• Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
• Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
• Ethyl Acetate
• Ethyl Acetoacetate
• Ethyl Alcohol
• Ethyl Benzoate
• Ethyl Butyrate
• Ethyl Cinnamate
• Ethyl Decanoate
• Ethyl Fenchol
• Ethyl Furoate
• Ethyl Heptanoate
• Ethyl Hexanoate
• Ethyl Isovalerate
• Ethyl Lactate
• Ethyl Laurate
• Ethyl Levulinate
• Ethyl Maltol
• Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate
• Ethyl Myristate
• Ethyl Nonanoate
• Ethyl Octadecanoate
• Ethyl Octanoate

That's just A-E. Doesn't even include the real bad stuff like arsenic, cadmium, formaldehyde, ammonia, nitrogen oxides, hydrogen cyanide, toluene, hexamine, etc. When all these additives were approved by the FDA, they weren't approved for the purposes of smoking.

It's well known if you give a low dose of arsenic to a rat (non-lethal) that rat will develop a tolerance to arsenic. So it can take in higher levels. Then overtime that rat becomes physically dependent on arsenic. When arsenic is removed, the rats organs detoxify leading to a withdrawal like syndrome. It's counter intuitive but humans get addicted to everything (including poisons). I remember first time I smoked a cigarette I threw up. That's the "healthy" way to react to a cigarette.

But when you're consistently exposed to 4000+ chemicals, 69 that are known poisons, those chemicals build up in your brain and bloodstream. Biology must adapt. And I'd bet my bank the sum cumulative dependence on all these chemicals is much more addictive than nicotine itself.

Now that I smoke American Spirits I smoke 3-5 day. There's a natural reverse tolerance at work. No anti lung bleeding additives. No anti coughing additives. No anti inflammatory additives. No "anti burn taste" in your mouth. With Marlboro I'd get a bad taste in my mouth but it was somehow altered so it wasn't that bad. With non additives it's not altered. If I smoke too much it's an ashy/metal taste (as opposed to a "numb taste"). Or my throat will swell. Or I'll cough when I'm suppose to like I'm suppose to. That shit seldom happened with big brand tobacco even when I was smoking 4xs as much.

TLDR: If you're a smoker, try bridging to a non additive brand. I firmly believe it makes a difference.

Cool! Smokers can live to 81! I am going to smoke.

I quit smoking some years ago. I really liked the feeling of the smoke goes down on my throat and fills my lungs. I loved watching the smoke dancing in the sunshine while traveling to somewhere far. Let's not to mention the social advantages of smoking now.
I quit not because of my lungs hurt of the 1-4 packet of cigarettes a day. Nor the smell of tobacco all around me at all the time or the fear of SUFFERING before I die because of cancer. Because of one thing.

I hate being addicted to something.

I hated it controlled me at all the time.
I was looking for places where it was allowed to smoke at all the time.
I was worried to have enough cigarettes to last me for a day and where to buy the next day at all the time.

I really liked quitting too. though. I really enjoyed how my body was carving for the nicotine. It was interesting to experience how my brain was trying to convince me to have only one more. It was a hell of a fight but it was good!

It was so good that I'm into new challenges since then. I'm quitting sugar now.

I took up smoking, to make me look cool.

It worked I'm the fonz

I knew ciggies were crammed full of additives, but anti-lung bleeding junk? Fuck!

I loved Golden Virginia rolling tobacco for years, but now I only use my Vape, and often reach the evening before even remembering I have the thing. Perhaps nicotine isn't all that addictive after all.

Ste Hughes said:

If you get arrested and do time that often, smoking is not a real problem for you....

anyway back to the thread. I've never smoked, but find me a none smoker who has lived forever....

Fucking go forward and do all the drink, drugs, hookers and anything else you want to do. Your time will come to an end if you do it or not.

Want to ride bikes at 180mph? Do it. Want to jump on a F1 track during a race to take a selfy, do it. Want to go swim with sharks, do it. Want to masturbait on top of a sky scraper? do it. If you fall off and die it just means you died today instead of some other day.

It changes nothing.

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Made my day and put a smile on my face. Thanks

OT: Cancer is way way more likely when you have a genetic predeposition for it, my grandfather died naturally at 93 and he smoked 2 packs per day for 70 years.

lol
@ The Scarlet Pimp
better link some BHW users/marketers ,those who died for smoking

If those images on cigarette packages can't get you to stop smoking then no one will...

WizGizmo said:

Exactly! . . . If you worry about dying, you'll die from worrying!

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That Line from Wiz!

To all those non smokers
everyday millions die and i dont know why so let me crave my cig and you stay away from the passive smoke.
Dont blame me later.

Hawkster said:

Rather be remembered for taking a stupid risk on the F1 track than dying from smoking, drugs or alcohol.

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Even those that wrap them selves up in bubble wrap can suffocate.

Fucking live life.