Hi, my first post here. I'm skeptical that many of the ibl pyramid techniques work as advertised. Maybe some of the members can make me a believer. I joined up for a couple reasons. Primarily I'm looking for the latest advantages & tips for places / + ranking. And after lurking, I'm curious if anyone has ever had success and knows for certainty that negative review pages in search engine results can be pushed done by a sloppy ibl. I'm wondering if that is easier than building new pages up. Will the right kind of sloppy ibl negatively effect the rankings for a specific page, even if it is part of a well established .org review site? Editing original post to include clarification -> zee007 Let me understand this correctly. You want to basically do negative SEO on an established site to bring it down in the SERPS? ME-> Reputation management companies work it from a different angle, building pages up to take the place of the offending page. I've read about - not that I'm advocating - only asking, if negative SEO aimed at an established .org page could deindex it, or cause it to lose ranking? Is that kind of question too taboo for this part of the forum? Mods and members, if this question is out of line, I will delete it straight away.