Finally Making Some Money With Amazon

Kudos to the OP for sharing the real world results of niche site builds of different types. Clearly, while you can put Amazon and adsense together on a site, if you want optimal sales from the former you have to build it from the ground up for Amazon, then add adsense if you want a second money center.

A MNS could be optimized into 30+ pages for Amazon efficiently by just writing 10-11 articles, then manually re-writing each twice and dripping the rewrites in. Picking Amazon high ticket items that happen to correspond to good adsense keywords would be another way to bring the two elements together.
 
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Hi WSOTesters, congratulations on your recent success. I'd like to ask a question as to what sort of themes work best with Amazon websites and what works best for adsense websites?

WSOTesters said:
Since i'm pretty accustomed to building niche sites, I tried throwing amazon on some micro niche sites, but what I figured was that when I split tested it with adsense, I was always making more with adsense. I think it was because I was never targeting higher priced products. Also it isn't until now that I got my hands on a good copywriter. I don't like writing articles at all, haha.

Anyway, that's awesome that you've done well with your site in just a few days. Have you replicated your process several times already?
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Then I guess, you're operating these sites like review sites if I'm not wrong. Please shed some light on the same. so others starting can have some help from your advice.

Thanks.

WSOTesters said:
Well the Amazon sites I'm talking about in the original post are not micro niche sites.
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calltyrone said:
so are you guys getting traffic only based on your keywords or are you driving traffic to your site some other way?
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We're only getting search engine traffic right now. The keywords are all pretty low competition so they're ranking pretty easily. Converting into sales though is another story.
 
dawala said:
Hi WSOTesters, congratulations on your recent success. I'd like to ask a question as to what sort of themes work best with Amazon websites and what works best for adsense websites?
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We've pretty much been using CTR theme and Niche Website Theme for our adsense sites.

For amazon we're using a theme called Gazpomag and we also have Azon theme installed on another one. I don't know which one works best at the moment. The one with the Azon theme is still new so we haven't gotten much of any traffic to it yet.
 
That's a great start! Your foot is in the door. Keep expanding and the sales will come:). Good luck!
 
futurecardiogod said:
Congrats ! Please share some tips for conversions !!
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Well, right now it seem like the site is having a dry spell. From the last 67 amazon click throughs, we haven't made any sales. I've read that sometimes it's really hit or miss and some buyers will go and buy 3 items at once.


The thing is, I also read these claims of people getting 10% or higher sales per amazon visitor. I would assume that since the keywords I'm going for are very targeted and buyer friendly, they would see similar results, but it seems it's not the case right now.


One factor may be that the average price of the items we're going for are well over $200. Most people may not be willing to drop the big bucks that easily.

I'm starting to go after some lower priced items to see if that'll convert better.


I'll just keep going with it and see what happens.
 
Overall it's been about 4.4%. But in the past couple of weeks for the new sites the conversion has been 1.9%. So not very impressive numbers here.
 
Conversion Rates if everything is good should be 10-15% -- the reason i say this is if your selling a $2000 item - what tends to happen is you sell alot of accessories and occasionally the larger item -- the more expensive the product the more accessories you would sell at one time.

Also text links tend to result in higher conversion rates ... there really are alot of variables though so I could understand your rates being different from those people who have been doing it longer than you.

I love this type of income -- its really just a bonus at the end of the month.
 
Micro niche sites seem to be the way to go for amazon unless your primary domain has a lot of authority.

Just keep it up...it sounds like it's going somewhere.
 
VinBed said:
Micro niche sites seem to be the way to go for amazon unless your primary domain has a lot of authority.

Just keep it up...it sounds like it's going somewhere.
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So would you just target a specific keyword just like you would with a Adsense MNS?


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Danny1111 said:
Conversion Rates if everything is good should be 10-15% -- the reason i say this is if your selling a $2000 item - what tends to happen is you sell alot of accessories and occasionally the larger item -- the more expensive the product the more accessories you would sell at one time.

Also text links tend to result in higher conversion rates ... there really are alot of variables though so I could understand your rates being different from those people who have been doing it longer than you.

I love this type of income -- its really just a bonus at the end of the month.
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The planning of a site should usually proceed from a 'mediocre' projected conversion rate, not the optimal one. This creates predictability in the expected minimum earning results. The OP has disclosed a real world 1.9%-4.4% CR, which sounds about right, especially when starting out. From that one could easily go with an estimated 2.5% CR and be pretty sure you weren't being unrealistic. That translates to a 40:1 conversion ratio.

In building a realistic earnings formula, you can then plan to crank out sites whose keywords rank 1-3 on page 1 (thus pulling about 20% of the SE traffic/unique visitors to the site), whose unique visitors could realistically click through to the Amazon link at 2% (a mediocre CTR), of which 2.5% would be expected to convert. So, from promoting the $200 product at a 4% commission rate, using a 40,000 LMS keyword (or five 8,000 LMS kws) per site, one could realistically project 8,000 monthly UVs, a 2% CTR or 160 clicks, leading to a 2.5% CR or 8 sales, or $32/ mo.
 
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8000 monthly search = $32/month ?? global or local search?

Is there any suggestion to improve the result? would be happy to see >$100 from 8000 search.
Is this calculation for all product or maybe some products have better result?

zebrahat said:
The planning of a site should usually proceed from a 'mediocre' projected conversion rate, not the optimal one. This creates predictability in the expected minimum earning results. The OP has disclosed a real world 1.9%-4.4% CR, which sounds about right, especially when starting out. From that one could easily go with an estimated 2.5% CR and be pretty sure you weren't being unrealistic. That translates to a 40:1 conversion ratio.

In building a realistic earnings formula, you can then plan to crank out sites whose keywords rank 1-3 on page 1 (thus pulling about 20% of the SE traffic/unique visitors to the site), whose unique visitors could realistically click through to the Amazon link at 2% (a mediocre CTR), of which 2.5% would be expected to convert. So, from promoting the $200 product at a 4% commission rate, using a 40,000 LMS keyword (or five 8,000 LMS kws) per site, one could realistically project 8,000 monthly UVs, a 2% CTR or 160 clicks, leading to a 2.5% CR or 8 sales, or $32/ mo.
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i also just started two sites which are focusing on amazon rather than adsense.

Also planning to throw some PPC traffic to the site to just taste the visitor behavior towards sales.
 
Goodluck and may you have more sales and more money :)
 
I would be ecstatic if I got a 10-15% conversion rate. Hell i would kill for a 2% conversion rate. My one review site currently gets around 60 click throughs to Amazon every day with average of 0.7% conversion rate each month. Strange as the traffic is from Google with keywords like '{keyword} reviews' and 'best {keyword}' but not really converting.

The items are usually between $500 - $1500 so that might explain the low conversion rate. Like someone said above i might target lower priced items.
 
Danny1111 said:
Conversion Rates if everything is good should be 10-15% -- the reason i say this is if your selling a $2000 item - what tends to happen is you sell alot of accessories and occasionally the larger item -- the more expensive the product the more accessories you would sell at one time.

Also text links tend to result in higher conversion rates ... there really are alot of variables though so I could understand your rates being different from those people who have been doing it longer than you.

I love this type of income -- its really just a bonus at the end of the month.
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Yea, I do think it's possible. I feel that we're targeting very specific "buying keywords". Also the articles are pretty good articles. Just haven't made much sales on anything yet. I'll keep pushing the search volume up so that I can get more concrete stats. If anything, it's a good learning experience for us.
 
zebrahat said:
The planning of a site should usually proceed from a 'mediocre' projected conversion rate, not the optimal one. This creates predictability in the expected minimum earning results. The OP has disclosed a real world 1.9%-4.4% CR, which sounds about right, especially when starting out. From that one could easily go with an estimated 2.5% CR and be pretty sure you weren't being unrealistic. That translates to a 40:1 conversion ratio.

In building a realistic earnings formula, you can then plan to crank out sites whose keywords rank 1-3 on page 1 (thus pulling about 20% of the SE traffic/unique visitors to the site), whose unique visitors could realistically click through to the Amazon link at 2% (a mediocre CTR), of which 2.5% would be expected to convert. So, from promoting the $200 product at a 4% commission rate, using a 40,000 LMS keyword (or five 8,000 LMS kws) per site, one could realistically project 8,000 monthly UVs, a 2% CTR or 160 clicks, leading to a 2.5% CR or 8 sales, or $32/ mo.
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I guess I was a little more optimistic than that. I still think much higher CTRs can be obtained. I'll probably try out different niches pretty soon and see if the results are the same.
 
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