FINALLY!!! BloodyNinja's LinkedIn Journey

Just a few moments ago got bad news. We have hit connection request sending limit, which we were not aware about before. I have instructed the team how to handle this situation with minimal losses.

Urgently need more accounts :(

Love your journey, there is a ton of money to be made on linkedin.

What have you found the limits to be as far as connections/messages a day per account?
Also which public tool do you use to shoot out the messages with? I was considering getting something developed.
 
Love your journey, there is a ton of money to be made on linkedin.What have you found the limits to be as far as connections/messages a day per account?Also which public tool do you use to shoot out the messages with? I was considering getting something developed.

Fortunately, everything normalized now. The limit was imposed because my software has sent too many connection request in a very short period of time. It happened because it was on halt for some time and had no throttling logic, so after lifting pause off it went nuts a bit :) Going to implement throttling soon. Regarding your question, I send 50-150 messages per day per account.

I used to use LinkedIn Dominator for sending messages. Overall it's a good tool and served me well for some time. HOWEVER, LinkedIn's security algorithms have evolved since then and now LD sends duplicated messages. Even their latest version. Furthermore, data export after scraping does not work well and sometimes returns data, which is all messed. So I had to abandon using LD.

Instead, I am using a private software, which in its nature is an autoresponder for LinkedIn. It follows rather sophisticated logic but in simple terms when you connect with someone, it sends a message to this person. So everything boils down to connecting with people.The only thing I can tell about this software is I am planning to release it publicly rather soon (1-1,5 months). Don't ask about the price, I don't know yet :) (I get this question way to often). Most probably I will target business people as clients. I am a little skeptical about selling it to blackhat IMers as it can be used as an ultimate spamming tool. And when LinkedIn team notices spikes in spamming activities, they might start investigating and fixing own loopholes, as well as tracking down my software's behavior patterns. Right before the loophole I used to send messages with LinkedIn Dominator got fixed, I managed to send 500 000 (half fucking million) ultra-targeted messages. Guess how many marketers like me could have been there sending tons of spam at the very same time?

Also, before you started investing in own tools or buying any tools at all, I would recommend you to investigate LinkedIn's limits on your own. Hire a cheap VA and perform necessary testing. I bet sending messages on LinkedIn is not as simple as you think it might be. Even when NOT automated. Automated is even harder.
 
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Someone on Fiverr has copied
  • my gig title
  • structure
  • description (changing a few words here and there)
  • tags
  • bio
  • style (including colors, fonts, sizes of text)

In short, he or she has copied EVERYTHING.

I guess this is war, isn't it?
 
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For the Upwork issue I found that if I didn't hire someone for a previous job I wouldn't get as many applicants for the next one. Maybe something to do with the hire rate or maybe just coincidental but 100% of the time I got more applicants on a fresh account.
 
For the Upwork issue I found that if I didn't hire someone for a previous job I wouldn't get as many applicants for the next one. Maybe something to do with the hire rate or maybe just coincidental but 100% of the time I got more applicants on a fresh account.

Interesting. I have 90%+ hire rate, $10k+ spent and 5.00 customer rating. But indeed they might be giving more exposure to new job posters.
 
UPDATE:


Just analyzed results of A/B test on Fiverr and thought this might be useful for someone.

Most sellers (if not all) on Fiverr never actually A/B test. They indeed TEST by changing parameters here and there and trying to gauge results thereafter. However, this approach is way too subjective when you deal with multiple factors like
1. seasonal fluctuations (e.g. buyers spend more money in the beginning of the month than in the end)
2. random fluctuations (e.g. competitor unpublished his/her gig resulting in your gig selling more during some limited period of time)
3. other kinds of randomness

The only objective way to A/B test is to have two more or less evenly developed accounts offering the same service in a similar (but not identical) fashion.

In this case you can measure revenue RATIO between accounts.

E.g. Account A is a "control group"
Account b is an "experimental group"

Month 1: measure data on both accounts
Month 2: implement a change on account B
then compare account A revenue / account B revenue week by week
also Account X period N+1 / N revenue for each week (this means account A week2/week1, week3/week2 etc, same for account B)
also Account X period N+30days / N (this mean first week of current month against first week of previous month etc)

After you have got all this data written on paper, it will be SUPER EASY to derive RIGHT conclusions from your A/B test. Other ways of testing are WASTE OF TIME, never call them "tests", they are just mere experience/intuition based optimization.

Likewise, there's one part specific to Fiverr and it is super easy to analyze. It is ratio of orders with extra(s) calculated as
R= number of orders with extra(s) / total number of orders

I guess you don't need explanation why orders with extras are important, do you?

E.g. for one gig I got the following ratios:
week 14 - 9/28 R=0.32
week 15 - 17/41 R=0.41
week 16 - 14/36 R= 0.38

You can clearly see that changes implemented before week 15 resulted in increase of orders with extra(s) while changes made before week 16 haven't had any significant impact. (By the way, applying changes on Sundays is a good idea if you want to conveniently analyze results later). On week 16 ratio seemingly stagnated. However, considering that I switched from outsourcing work to doing everything in-house (thus increasing own profit margins) right before week 16, ratio stagnation can be considered a good result.

P.S. after getting some historical data and personal experience, you will be able to run 4 A/B tests per month with only 2 seller accounts.

P.P.S. ah yea, if you don't know how to run multiple Fiverr accounts:
a) Download FREE version of MultiLoginApp (yes, it is sufficient for up to 10 Fiverr accounts) http://multiloginapp.com
b) Register a couple cheap companies (choose the cheapest option with low-cost maintenance) and create a few PayPal accounts with them. Alternatively, use your sister's or mom's credentials for secondary Fiverr acc, it's all good
 
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UPDATE:

Today is the last day of April, time to draw up the balance sheet:

Revenue (April):
Gross profit from Fiverr: $1800 (avg. order profit $8)
Gross profit from Introductory services website #1: $870 (avg. order profit $31)

Expenditure (April):
VA: $360
Capex: $1960
---- including infrastructure development $1400
---- including software development $560
Infrastructure upkeep: $200
Commissions (PayPal, currency conversion and money transfers): $150


Now I have a very detailed database of 350 clients. Writing draft version of an e-mail funnel for upselling premium services to them. Planning to make around 10-12 e-mails, around 500 words each. Required investment for copywriter services $350-$450.


Besides writing an e-mail funnel and analyzing financial and traffic stats, everything works on 80% autopilot now.


P.S. I threw some minor streams out of the balance sheet above on purpose to simplify it and make more readable. Actual gross profit was around €3000, so ~$3430, which is $170 (4.7%) short of $3600 goal for this month.

P.P.S. don't be fooled by Fiverr being the main income stream. I personally view it as a mere self-sustaining source of ultratargeted leads. Isn't it nice that leads pay you for becoming your lead?
Anyway, after introducing and optimizing e-mail funnel, Fiverr will be dethroned :)
 
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get back to me on skype bro! u just disappeared mid convo, and with me about to buy!
 
I've forgotten all about this journey, is it dead?

I continue doing Linkedin marketing and it yields good results. I don't post details anymore because there are not that many players on Linkedin playground, which makes easy figuring out who is who. People abuse this and either try to mimic what I do in a stupid way or just annoy the shit out of me and my colleagues.

Nowadays I am doing mostly campaigns for customers and my other businesses. I will try to sum up my conclusions made during this journey in a separate post.
 
get back to me on skype bro! u just disappeared mid convo, and with me about to buy!

I know who you were talking to but it wasn't me. I don't run campaigns by myself, which I stated here many times.

You man should understand that your willingness to pay money doesn't mean shit. Seller has just as many rights to choose its customers as customer has to choose whom to buy from. My team decided not to work with you due to several reasons, which we consider to be red flags. As you stated by yourself, there is no shortage in Linkedin tools an methods on blackhatworld. Please go dig them, do whatever you want and keep your money to yourself.
 
How is Fiverr doing?
Just curious about how you rank your new gigs
 
hey guys

just a quick follow-up
I decided to dump everything I know about LinkedIn on BHW for free. It will be a long 5000-7500 word guide. Currently, at the 30% mark writing it.

I just got bored with LinkedIn and want to focus on my main project


How is Fiverr doing?
Just curious about how you rank your new gigs

Stopped doing it a while ago even though it was going moderately well. The software I used for executing gigs required some maintenance and I did not want to distract developers from the main project. It could be beneficial short-term but would slow down long-term projects
 
Really looking forward to this. Couldn't have come out at a better time. I'm currently in a graduate program looking for an internship over the summer. LinkedIn is a great tool to leverage for that purpose! Please post here when your guide comes out.

Thanks!

hey guys

just a quick follow-up
I decided to dump everything I know about LinkedIn on BHW for free. It will be a long 5000-7500 word guide. Currently, at the 30% mark writing it.

I just got bored with LinkedIn and want to focus on my main project
 
hey guys

just a quick follow-up
I decided to dump everything I know about LinkedIn on BHW for free. It will be a long 5000-7500 word guide. Currently, at the 30% mark writing it.

I just got bored with LinkedIn and want to focus on my main project




Stopped doing it a while ago even though it was going moderately well. The software I used for executing gigs required some maintenance and I did not want to distract developers from the main project. It could be beneficial short-term but would slow down long-term projects

Hey my friend,
What happened to the remaining 70% of the 5000-7500 word guide you were planning?
Have you abandon the idea ?
I would really appreciate it if you could post it (or maybe PM) when you have a minute.
Thanks.
 
Hey,

This is quite an old topic, but I'm really interested in LinkedIn marketing too.

Does anybody know, how to connect with people that made their profiles private

Like this:
linkedin.jpg


Should I build more connections to reach this person as LinkedIn suggests or is there some kind of work around?
 
Hey my friend,
What happened to the remaining 70% of the 5000-7500 word guide you were planning?
Have you abandon the idea ?
I would really appreciate it if you could post it (or maybe PM) when you have a minute.
Thanks.

The article in the OP is complete.
 
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